Babies Born November 2006 #6

oh Belinda I hope Cooper isn't bad tonight for you.

Taralee sorry to hear about that awful night, I hope you can get some rest today while she is sleeping.

Kim fantastic!! Good for Chelsea!!!

Jovie is around 6.5kg now and going okay. She woke once last night which was good & I brought her into bed & she slept until 6.30am so that was fantastic. Matilda did well last night too. Today I just tried resettling Jovie so lets hope she goes back to sleep & passes this 45 minute barrier.... fingers crossed ;)

well ...what a difference two days can make ...and a wrap ....Lugh has only woken once at around 2.30 for the last two nights ....and then slept til 6 ish ...so I am feeling LOADS better....but I know that things can change in a day so just enjoying the moment.

Now .....has anyone done loads of saftey proofing ?...I have been on at DH ever since I was pregnant to do it ...and he has never got round to it ....I dunno why but I just thought it was kind of a man thing ....and seeing as I do everything else (lol) ...I thought he might not mind ...sooooo I am going to make a start ...it seems like a big job...

In other news ...my mothers group has graduated to having it at our houses, or out, I am lucky they are really lovely ...I am a bit worried though about of 10 people and babies coming to my house ...

Baby proofing for us started when Matilda started exploring the house more. We started with basics like moving things out of reach & putting guards on power outlets. As she got older & got into more things, we started making more things safe. Then we reached an age where we would direct her more away from something. ykwim?

yes everyday i think about baby proofing just havent got around to it yet ;)

OLIVIA ,CHRISTY and KIM i'm glad all your bubbas slet well last night, may it all continue!! hows the cot going christy?

BELINDA Cooper is sooo cute putting the blanket over his face!! must make him feel secure.

TARA i hope tonight gets better for you hun!

what sort of day sleeps are you your bubs having? sophie has 4 sleeps of around 45-60 mins everyday but would love her to have 2-3 longer ones, i've tried resettleing but to no avail.

AJP ...depending on the day/mood

1hr early morning

45 mins-2hrs late morning/early afternoon

45 mins - 1 hour mid afternoon

occaisionaly ...another at around 4pm ..of about 40 mins

so similar to Sophie ...resettling sux ...I normally give up pretty easy though ...as long as he has had 30 mins I can't be bothered any more to pat and pat and pat ...tomorrow is another day etc

ARRRGGGHHH!!!! We are back on this 'screaming the house down' instead of going to sleep for EVERY nap!! my SIL said that evie's in the habit of it now. what do you guys think? I was really hoping its just a phase that she'll get over but now i'm worried she has got herself into a habit of it :(

Hi

Taralee,Lugh has screamed since birth ...so I know your pain ....(lol) ...if she hasn't always done it then I would definantly say it's a phase...perhaps she's just a lot more aware of her surroundings, I think it will pass. Have you done something different in your routine lately ?

Ta Christy for the tips ...started moving stuff today,

Hey guys im back...would have been back on sooner but dramas with the phone lines..long story (lets just say not happy with phone company hopeless..)

ive missed alot!!! hope everyone is well

here..Emelia is good, she is amazing us with new little things latley, always laughing she has the funniest laugh!!! oh moving dont want to do that again in a hurry!

have a great weekend everybody :D

Hi Blanche - glad the move went ok. I had problems with the phone too! fun isnt it?? NOT!

Olivia, glad the rewrapping has helped. Had a shocker here last night but I think it was his needles, took heaps to settle him to bed to begin with. woke at 2.30 and fed, and went back to sleep, but do you think the mumma could!!! NO! was having one of those n ights where couldn't turn my brain off. Then Aston woke at 5.30 and was WIDE awake, and wasn't going back to sleep for love nor money. Got soccer this morning, so we are out and about in a bit. might have to have a nap later when the boy does.

As for baby proofing...i'm still unpacking lol. Are going to have my girlfriedn around with her little one, and "test" where I need to baby proof.

Taralee - oh isn't every one just free with advice - usually when you don't want it... habit - I'm not sure. could be just that she isn't needing as much sleep as she did when she was younger and is protesting loudly about being put to bed. How oftern are you putting her to bed for a snooze? just a thought anyway.

AJP - aston has about three sleeps a day - early morning, mid morning, then afternoon. mid morning one is usually the longest, up to 2.5- 3 hours sometimes. the others are about 45mins. usually depends on how long the mid morning one was will determine how long the afternoon one is. iykwim. How is that beautiful girl going? have you been putting her to bed a bit later?

Christy - Hows Jovie going in the cot? and is Matilida still wanting to "entertain" her when she is supposed to be sleeping? How are you going?

Kim - how is DH going? For that matter how are you doing? have you been back to the ob yet?

Belinda - hope cooper is doing better. Its such a guessing game at this age isnt it?

Meredith - how are you?? Hope you are ok and that sleep deprivation hasn't finally sent you over the edge. hang in there darlin...

Gigi- did you get a new car yet?

Ann - how is ella, any teeth through yet. I think aston has started to teeth actually. will have to check his gums today.

i think that is everyone if not, sorry.... gotta to go and get ready for the day. take care all and have a good weekend....

Hi guys.

I've been sick with the flu. (the one i thought i got rid of!) This time it has taken me a while to shake. I've been so achy, tired and sleepy and feeling resentful of DH for not taking time off from work dinners to help out in the evenings. I mean its no fun breast feeding a baby when you have a runny nose and a fever. Everytime i sniffle she pulls off and looks at me, which means milk goes everywhere - so frustrating. I know there's not much he can do about feeding but he could bath her and put her to bed. sorry to complain but i'm feeling so tired...

Vicky - Teething? She's still gumming everything she can get her hands on but they still havent emerged and are sitting just under the gums. Your new pics of Aston are GORGEOUS.

AJP - Ella sleeps a lot during the day. She stays awake for an hour before she starts to grizzle. Her first morning nap goes for 2hours. And between 10-12 she stays up for 2 hours but the rest of the day is so unpredictable it depends on how she slept at night. We've also gone back to wrapping her (this seems to make her sleep longer)

Taralee - I have noticed Ella's getting unsettled during the nights again. My *theory* (as i've noticed this with every new month) is that each new month is a new development milestone so their sleep patterns get disrupted.

Hope all other babies are enjoying the cooler nights. I know Ella's tummy rash is much better these days.

Ann

hi Ann... hugs darlin...its horrid when your feeling ick, and still have to deal with the demands of a baby. complain away darlin, if you cant here where can u?
Thank you about the photos - I love the one in my signature. he had just woken up and was all sleepy eyed and peaceful.

Ella is so beautiful Ann - she is incredibly photogenic. I checked out your blog just before.

Hang in there darlin, I hope you are feeling better soon...In fact I hope we are all feeliing better soon....

hi guys, i'm just in here tinight to VENT about me mum :angry:

WE dont have the closest relationship, i'm the black black sheep in my family so things are often tense between me and the rest of my family. i just cant win, i try to make things better between us i.e drop up there to see them with sophie but when i always seen to be wrong about everything it really gets me down :cry:.
i and DH often question why i even bother, i guess at the end of the day i only have one family, but....... i think a big problem with my parents is they cant express their emotion at all, i always say how beautiful, gorgeous and cute sophie is, deliberatly in front of her to MAKE her agree and say it too, but she just can bring herself to say it. my sisters dog gets talked about more than my daughter!!! :(. i have fantastic IL's who tell us they love us, in which i reciprecate, but my own parents cant even say it to me, i dont remember a single time in my life when my mum said she loved me. :(.
i pretty much had to hang up on her tonight, could continue arguing with her over some trivial matter, though i'm meeting her tomorrow morning, something i regret oganising now.
i know that she regrets our bad relationship and has left it a little too late to repair, but she's not helping acting like this to get things on track, not that i think it will ever get any better. have gotten used to things the way they are
i feel i an finally getting my PND sorted and times like this just want to make me cry. i have a fantastic husband and a beautiful daughter i couldnt ask for anything more, just hurts thats all, a lot, always will,
sorry to vent and not do personals, maybe tomorrow.

AJP vent away sweets. Mothers are so hard sometimes, mine is less than supportive about everything (or so it feels) that I do. When she was here after Jovie was born I actually said to her "Do you think you could say one positive thing about my parenting, and if not please refrain from talking!" I was so angry with her... she didn't talk for 2 days :rolleyes: I just try to remind myself that I am different and my children will know it!

thats a good point christy, i'm determined to make sure things are different with my kids. my mum treats me like her mum treated her, she plays favourites, her brother was favoured and so is my sister,shes the golden child in my family. at least i recognise it and will change things. thanks love

Whoa where have i been?! i feel like i've been MIA for the past few days! Evie's sleeps seem to have settled again. What i've been doing is finding something for her to watch, like the fan or her mobile, which she talks to for a while then just nuzzles into me and falls asleep, sometimes i'm holding her for 20mins or so, but she's not screaming and sleeping well so i dont care!
Belinda, i know it was ages ago, but you said cooper was really unsettled after u gave him pear. i've been told to drink pear juice if evie seems a little constipated so perhaps you giving him pear upset his tummy a bit - made him windy? just a thought.

4 month needles today. i nearly cry just thinking about her bottom lip dropping...i feel like a traitor!!!! anyways, hopefully she'll forgive me!

AJP-Hugs hun. I feel for you. Me and mum dont have the best r'ship either, never have never will, but she does say she loves me and is always fussing over Chelsea. What annoys me is she does indeed talk about my sisters kids alot more then Chelsea.....i hope things are ok today for your meeting.

Tara-Good luck with the needles today.. i hate it but at least its quick and they forget about it pretty soon after.....its the day Chelsea gets spoilt after her needles!!!

I hope everyone had a good weekend. We didnt do a real lot. Chelsea was bit of a handful....saturday night we went to friends place and by the time we got home she had turned into a nightmare....screaming and crying. So gave her 2nd bath for the night to calm her.. all was ok. Put her to bed and then walked away.... 10 mins later she was screaming so went into her room and she had rolled onto her tummy and vomitted all thru her bed. Was up her nose and all. SO 3rd bath for the night!! Ended up in our bed for the night and went to sleep straight away!

Next week she is booked into get some photos done with the people who took her newborn hospital photos!!!

Hey AJP, I really feel for you. My mum and i get along but my family is the same - not very close emotionally whereas my DH's family is very expressive about love and such. I think i went through what you're now going through a few weeks ago. i used to look at evie and be so much in love with her and could never imagine holding back love or doing anything to hurt her, and then i remembered to when i was little and wonder how anyone could go from being so loving to a little baby to being angry. I dont know, some of it may be hormones on my part.
I think all you can do is tell yourself that, for the most part, parents do the best they can with what they know at the time. Your mother might not have known another way to convey love to you and now that you're older and are able to question her, she feels guarded and defensive. Just do the best you can now and try not to dwell on any negativity in your life. Now it's your turn to do the best you can with what you know.
Be happy, honey :)

Needles weren't too bad. DH held her but her little screams were so heartbreaking :( the nurse told me to feed her to comfort her which seemed to help a bit, but she stopped crying when dh cuddled her (up yours, mum!!!) anyways, she was due for a sleep so i dont think that helped her, but at least she slept in the car and is still napping now. what a trooper

Wow you irls can chat - feel like I am struggling to keep up atm.
One day is just merging with another IYKWIM!!

AJP - Sorry about the situation with your mum. I don't have much of a relationship with either of my parents. They are the no emotion type too. My dad's idea of showing affection is to give money. He does mean well but that is all he knows how to do.
If you can't change what you have with her then at least you WILL change how you parent Soph. I won't say don't worry about your own family because of course you will always want things to be better but maybe accept your relaionship with thm and focus on trying to nuture their love for Soph - maybe your mum might find it easier to dote on her than you?

Olivia - hope the wrapping is still working for Lugh.
Eeek at 10mothers in one house!! My mother's group is about 16 people so don't think we will ever all meet at anyones house

Vicky - how's that view? Glad Aston sleeping a bit better for you. Hope he keeps it up

Belinda - How's cooper after the bad night?

Tara - Crossing everything that you girls continues with the more sleep/less screaming. it is soo mentally and physically drainign to have unsettled baby

Ann - how's the flu? Hope you are feeling better.

Kim - how is DH?

Christy - Hope all is well with your little girls too. Is jovie on anything for the reflux? Sorry, you've probably said but my brain is like a sieve.

Logan's sleeping habits are still driving me crazy despite some improvement.
Has taken now to waking at 12.30am ish for feed - settling again within 45mins but next feed at 4.30amish and WILL NOT go back to sleep. Takes me 1.5-2hrs by which time DH is heading off to work and I feel I may as well start my day. NOT my idea of wake up time at all but not sure how to deal with it.
Day naps are improved. Still often wakes at 45mins but easier to resettle. I am getting sick of the resttel though - spending my entire day just trying to keep him asleep!!!
If I don't then he is just cranky,cranky.
Having his 4mth vaccinations next week and dreading how it will disrupt the vague sleep routine we have got going.
Anyway, enough whinging from me - I do really love him to bits and much as I am grumpy/sleep deprived, he is a much happier baby since getting more sleep.

HI girls,

I went to my mother and baby group today, which was pretty good. there were only about 6 of us there today, so it was more intimate.

Aston was a little bit unsettled over the weekend, which i think was to do with his needles, still waking in the night though - I think I am going to see if he settles himself back to sleep tonight before I jump up to him.... can only see what happens eh.

Meredith - the view is breath taking, and when I feel my anxiety levels climbing (which they seem to be dong a lot lately) I go to one of the windows and gaze, and remember to slow my breathing... Hugs hun, i know that sleep deprivation feeling oh so well... thankfully aston is sleepng better in the day, i think I'd go nuts if he wasn't.

Taralee - isn't good once the needles are over?! Aston cried, but not as much as the first time. I hope she is ok for you over the next few days.

Kim - hope Chelsea is more settled today for you. HOws your bump progressing?

AJP - there is nothing like becoming a mum to bring your relationships with your parents completely in the spot light. Like you said, you know that you will do things differently. I know that I have - its been my main mission for jsut that. Doesn't make you feel any better though at the time. Are you getting any counselling with the PND? That helped alot for me, put things into perspective and helped me find solutions and ideas of how I wanted to parent. if that makes sense.

Not having broadband is driving me slightly demented...it takes so long to get the computer connected and running.,. sigh.

well domesticity is calling....

morning ladies, I hope you all had relatively good nights.

I am hoping to get through some of the things on my to do list today...the one that never seems to end!!

We are having a naming ceremony for Aston in May, so the celebrant is coming this morning. Hopefully he won't be here for too long, so I can get some other stuff done.

Aston woke twice last night - 11, and 3 and the only thing that puts him back to sleep is feeding him. I'm over it though. If he was on the light side, fair enough - but the boy is a heavy weight, so he doesnt need feeding - feel like I'm being used as a human dummy.... not sure what to do about this one. do I keep doing it - or do I try and break the habit that it seems to be becoming? so many questions, no easy answers....

Ah wats a good night?? Chelsea just hates going to bed now... she will fall asleep having her bottle then as soon as she gets into bed its play time?? So now we have to go back to the newborn stage where i rock her to sleep...during the day even. She is so needy.... wants her cuddles, to be held, 100% attention on her. Cries and screams all day and nothing i do will calm her....its doing my head in!!

We are getting Chelsea baptised in a few months time.....we just dont know if we should have it down here and risk no one making the effort to travel down or have it up in NSW where we know family and friends will come...but then our friends down here wont come up?? arghhh!!!

Vicky- Bump is going nicely thanks.....i can notice my tummy already.....in between the pre/post baby fat and the new baby bump there is something there!! Its nice actully....but i can tell by the end im going to be huge.....

DH still sick but on the mend... had more blood tests next week.

Only 2 weeks til we start playgroup and im soo excited!!!

Kim - Ella was like that these days too. Just wanting 100% attention or else she has a fit. Makes it difficult in the car. All the crying peaked at 4pm yesterday when i had to rock her to sleep. The second i put her down she would cry. So i smeared some Bonjela on her lower gums and she quietened down instantly and fell asleep on her own in 2 minutes flat.

This morning i saw that elusive tooth come out (again) so the teething must be troubling her. I remember when my wisdom teeth were coming out and how painful they were...I'm sure thats why she needs the extra cuddles. So i'm not sure if this little tooth will stay out or get covered back over by gums but it looks like teeth are just around the corner.

Glad to hear DH is finally on the mend :)

AJP - Big Cuddles. I'm in the same situation too. IL's are great (almost too eager) and my mum stands back from Ella (unless i ask her to hold her). I'm sure you will break the cycle of playing favourites. You are doing a great job and love you bubs unconditionally and that's what counts!

Vicky - so jealous of that view. I think about it during the day when i look out onto the construction site next door...

Meridith - Hope logan's sleep patterns settle for you soon.

Taralee - glad to hear the needles went well. No fever?

Ann

Yay Kim ...for the new baby, for playgroup and for DH getting better ....poor you with Chelsea ...hopefully she will calm down soon, two weeks ago Lugh was a shocker ...and he is about 2 weeks older than Chelsea ..so maybe it's a growth spurt ...

Meredith - Wrapping is going really well, he can't knock the dummy out, so he is sleeping MUCH longer ...during the day, at night he is the same as before NZ ...6 to 7 hours sleep, then a feed, straight back to sleep and wakes 5.30 - 7.00. I am waiting til he is 6 months and then I am going to gently get rid of the dummy and the wrap...he is even ...and I never thought I would say this ...settling himself....so I put him down awake in his cot, put the dummy in, kiss hime goodnight and HE DOSEN'T CRY !!! and puts himself to sleep, this has happened about 5 times now ...hooray ....but like everything ....it's good for now ...but it could all change so quickly.

I feel for you with Logan and I know excatly how you feel, but those little improvements will grow to big improvements soon enough .....one thing I think helped me was realising that trying heaps and heaps of different things to make Lugh sleep made things worse and that if I do something consistently, he seems to be calmer ...so I do excatly the same routine, day and night, same song, same kind of wrap, same cot etc

but like I said, it could go down hill tomorrow.

Vicky - I understand, my boy is over 8 kg as well, and just wants to eat and eat ...I am constantly thinking am I misreading his cries or is he really this hungry.

Tara - I'm glad Evie is sleeping and well done for getting DH to do the needles ...my DH wouldn't be able to stand it ...he is so soft ....lol.

AJP - My Mum is a complete headcase ...part of why I am here and she is NZ, but I love her and I wish it was better with us too ....not easy.

Everyone ....have a great day.

Goodmorning everyone,

Vicky - good luck with organising the naming cermony...wat things could u try to get him out of feeding at night? ppl have told me that they gave there bubs water instead of boob ..but i dont know lol im not much help sorry

Kim- Emelia sounds the same as Chelsea..when she goes to bed she thinks its play time, last night we were at my mums for dinner, she was acting really tired, so we left and on the way home she fell asleep got her in her cot about 5 mins later she woke up with a new lease on life and all she wanted to do was play :S great to hear ur DH is on the mend. wow i wish i had a pregnant belly again i miss it!! not ready for another bub just yet!!

i haven't been having very good nights lateley with Emelia just dont understand y she is waking..she's not hungry, i change her nappy etc but nope she still continues to wake, saturday night was that bad i had to ask my mum to look after her for a few hours so dp and i could catch up on sleep. other days i try to sleep when she does but she only sleeps for half n hour so not worth it plus i have to do other stuff :/ cant win lol orry im whinging

hope everyone is well

Hello girls!!! Sounds like not many are being good sleepers! Jovie only slept for 15 minutes this morning & I thought I was going to fall over I was so tired... but I took her to acupuncture & fed her up & she's been asleep for 15 minutes so far *fingers crossed*.

One thing I think is our little ones are starting to be more and more aware about their surroundings, so if we are taking them to their beds they know. At night Jovie will whimper when we walk into the bedroom and start chatting when she goes into her cot. But we sort of roll her on her side & pat her bottom & she falls asleep without worry... this is only at night though. We ignore her "I'm awake" facade and she generally gives up quickly because she's tired. During the day though, urgh could go on and on for hours of resettling & no relief.

Evie is just being a little clown. She laughs at everything and then when i go to put her down for a nap she talks so loud and thinks it's hilarious!
She had a little bit of a fever after the needles, but once she had some panadol and a good sleep she was right as rain again. she did have quite big red lumps from the needles though but they didnt seem to bother her too much.
She's back to having 2 feeds during the night now which is a bit of a pain but Ive noticed she's not eating as much as she used to during the day. she's still putting on weight and is happy though so i'm not too worried, i'd just like it if she only woke once at night!
i dont know if any of you have tried this for your own sanity, but when evie's really unsettled and not sleeping, i just keep smiling at her and quietly chatting about non-sensical type things, i found that rather than being all agitated she goes to sleep a lot happier - which makes me feel better! it is hard cos sometimes i just want to give up but staying positive really seems to help...try it next time!!!
Kim - evie's being Baptised on Sunday, all my fam is in WA so i know how you feel. The thing I have learnt is to do what is easiest for you, if you give people enough notice those who want to will make the effort.
Sorry i dont usually do personals, this was meant to be my year for being a better person and remembering people and important things but considering i missed my best friends birthday a couple of weeks ago i've realised good intentions arent enough; so just realise i read everything and if i can help then i try to. :)

LOL Tara at doing personals everytime, we just can't every time, so don't worry. I don't take it personally ;)

I can never keep up so i dont do personals all that often!!! You ladies chatter alot...and always something going on!!!

LOL Kim thats true always something.

Jovie's been not sleeping during the day again & its awful. I made DH come home from work early today because I feel very fluey & have to teach puppy preschool so I needed a sleep. Jovie screamed the entire hour that I was trying to get Matilda to sleep... Tara I tried to sing nicely to her & smile but she just screamed :( no idea why. She did a huge poo this morning & this arvo, but other than that nothing exciting.

I just got things organised to go out to dinner with DH on the 19th YAY!!! Its our 10 year wedding anniversary now I just have to find somewhere very very yummy....

We had huge poos on Monday too. Two of them. they were mega stinky.

Ella woke up this morning with two teeth! they are poking out and are razor sharp (ouch! my poor boobs). She's now sticking her tongue out a lot and running her tongue over her new weapons. And drooooling like a tap.

The nurse says i have to now start washing her teeth with a wash cloth. Lucky Ella likes to eat her wash cloth.

Ann

Luua- Maybe im wrong but should your ticker say 'Arrived 5 Nov 06' not 07?? How cute she has teeth!!! I do feel for ur poor boobies tho.....does she bite??

Chelsea is loving her big poo's....wen i smell one i say ' Have u done stinky bums Chels' and she gives me a huge grin and giggles.....but if she hasnt she just stares at me like im silly!!

Ann - wow on the teeth! I have a sneaky suspicion that is what is going on with aston at the minute...anyday now i think one is going to pop through...then on the other hand who knows!

Kim - I think its brilliant you even post, let alone personalise...I don't always, just if I have a spare 5 mins! which isn't very often

Christy - woohoo on the dinner date. make sure you wear something pretty and put some make up on, and some heels...lol...thats what I did when we went out to dinner, several weeks ago now....and have a scrummy dinner.

Olivia, glad lugh is sleeping better for you...aston is up several times in the night at the moment, and i feed him..and he goes straight back to sleep, but its knocking me about. I'm wondering if it is 4mth growth spurt going on???

Blanche - Thanks for the well wishes for the naming ceremony,

Tara lee - I sing to aston when he is crying, and get louder then him, and he stops..lol

well I went shopping today, and had a lovely time. brought some things for ME! at colorado, that were on sale, and the size I was BEFORE aston, so I'm doubly happy. little bit "firm" but the next size was too big, so I will just have to start that walking!

take care all....shattered. 11, 2, 4, 6...that's the times I was up last night....

WOW 2 teeth ann!!!! bity bity hey!!!

thanks everyone for listening to my whinging, sorry i keep doing it!! just need to vent some times. sophie woke at 3.45 yesterday morning, boy was that wierd!!! didnt this morning so hopefully a once off. her day sleeps appear longer this week, possibly cos i've stopped going in to look at her and noticning she's awake and just getting her up, now i just leave her and she goes back to sleep!! ;) just cant help myself :)

christy enjoy your night out on the 19th!!!! and happy anniversary on advance

Thanks Kim. Most definitely 06...

She doesnt bit but she pulls...and i felt them in tonights feed. Sharp little teeth.

Chelsea is so cute even with big poos.

ouchies on the teeth!! Well done Ella!

Jovie's taken to waking up once extra at night & its destroying me. I think its due to Matilda waking up & screaming :rolleyes: poor sausage can't catch a break... Matilda's having nightmares & being unsettled.

BUT the exciting news is we are starting to get the girls furniture set up for the big move into the same room. We figure as they are already waking each other up, we might as well get them in the same place sooner rather than later.

good luck with the big move christy! how exciting!!
poor matilda with the nightmares, poor chook

Goodluck with the move in!!! Ive never shared a room, my sisters kids DID....but she changed that quick smart!!!

I reckon Chels will always wake up her siblings....so will always have their own rooms!

Yeah I wish we had more room... its either move them in together or move house...or let Jovie stay in our room for a long time...

SOPHIES ROLLING!!!! only front to back, but it's a start :clap: started doing it on wednesday night and doing it ever since!!! whoo hoo :p