Babies born October 1st - 15th 2008 #4

I tried to get on the forums on Wednesday and they were down. Then I was busy yesterday and in the mean time there's been heaps of posts and a whole new thread started! Will try and do some personals:

Hollye: :happybirthday: Hope you're having a great day. xx

amy:

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I think Maya would be a lovely wedding guest and she brings her own meal, and won't run up the bar tab!

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LMAO Yeah it's not like she will cost them any extra!

How's your water drinking going? I can't live without water. I always have a water bottle on me and am always filling it up cos I drink it so quickly.

:lol: I know what you mean about a younger DH making you feel younger. I suddenly realised the other day that he's turning 31 this year and I thought "gee I'm old now!" - even though I'm actually already past 31! :lol:

teruteru: :hug: I know how hard it is to watch someone you love fight an addiction (my brother). Feel free to talk to me if you like.

I bought Maya a cute Bonds hat recently. :)

Georgi - :hug: Do you know when you have to go to hospital yet?

katones and Hollye - I'm also worried about how much Maya eats but I can't actually see how much she eats from the breast! Maya started off a big baby and now only has tiny weight gains. Both of your babies are having big weight gains by comparison. Maya gets weighed next Wednesday and I think she will be about 5kg at 3 months (when she started at 4kg at birth!). :(

That's all the personals I can manage!

I know I shouldn't compare Maya to other babies but I've found myself doing it a lot lately and it makes me feel terrible. I was so upset after mothers group on Wednesday! Maya is so much smaller than other babies her age (and she started out such a big baby so I can't help thinking it's my fault and I'm not feeding her enough).

Maya also kept on crying lots during mothers group! Whereas the other babies only cried when they were hungry or sleepy. She cried cos she was at a different place with people she doesn't know and she cried at every loud noise. Someone brought a camera to take a photo of all the babies and all the other babies are lying there happy and Maya's crying. I wonder if it's because 99% of the time it's just DH and I and we don't make much noise! So she's not used to noise or other environments or other people. She also cried nearly all day yesterday when a friend of mine came to visit with her one year old (who also would not stop crying).

Also I just haven't been doing tummy time at all because she hated it so much and I couldn't bare to make her do it. So now she's so behind in terms of being able to hold her head up, roll, etc. After I got home on Wednesday I decided I should start tummy time now. And I've found she doesn't mind it for a few minutes now. Question: How often and for how long do all of you have your bubs doing tummy time?

But I've had a HUGE breakthrough with bottle feeding!!! A woman at mothers group suggested a tommy tippee bottle cos it's shaped more like a breast and she lent me hers to try. And Maya actually drinks from it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hooray: So far she's drunk from it on 3 separate occasions. I've only given her small amounts and will have to try a bigger feed soon. My plan is to give her some EBM in it every day so that she keeps taking it and hopefully eventually my DH can take over a feed every day.

OK.. I should stop my waffling there! Got the wedding tomorrow! I expect Maya will be unsettled being out and being amongst strangers. I'm planning to take a sling and a pram so hopefully she'll be happy in one of those!

Tanya - i have heard those bottles are fabbo! :)

As for tummy time. Ethan may get 30hr a day (10 mins a time sometimes).. .but remember that he sleeps on his tummy so he actually likes it

DD HATED tummy time and so we would only give her 5mins a day if any (ooop)...
But she still crawled by 6 months and walked at 11 months so it didnt affect her i feel.

I just stuck up ethans light in his room... sooo cute!

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Happy Birthday Hollye - hope you're having a great day! :dance: :dance: mwah!

Tanya - oooh hun don't beat yourself up. Babies come in such different shapes & sizes, and they all grow at different rates. As long as she's healthy in herself she'll grow at her own sweet pace. And honestly, I worry because I'm sure that X is the fattest in my group! Go figure hey, I reckon they're just all individual. Re tummy time, X doesn't mind it but gets frustrated after a time. I try and do at least a few minutes a few times a day.... but did none the week we were in Tassie...oops!

Also, X is showing no signs of rolling, I think he's too fat :rofl: he just lies on his belly like a little beetle... his little arms & legs barely touch the ground around his chubba tummy. Good visit to paed's this morning... I'm gonna do the dreaded dairy-free diet (starting next Thurs... I think!?!?). Now we've got both eczema and the snortiness it seems worthwhile. Paed isn't worried about it, given he's thriving, and just thinks that's the way that X is, and hopefully he'll grow out of it. Much to my happiness, X did a magnificent display of snortiness & wheezing right on cue lol. Given the current symptoms, he's probably got a little virus which is making him more mucousy then usual, plus the diarrhoea and being a bit unsettled... hopefully should pass and I'll just keep going with the vaporiser. I've got a sore throat now though, and feel like crap. Darn it. Weight is up (sorry Tanya!) to 7.1kg and I think his rolls of fat will help him when he finally sits - they can prop him up!

And I can't remember who asked re hats, but I love the Bonds hats too - I get mine from Big W.

Bethany not big on tummy time either, I think she feels trapped cause she can't kick and wave her arms around, but she is managing about 10mins aday. Belfie Bethany has the mucus thing too. Although no other symptoms of a milk allergy. The baby nurse just thinks it is her and as long as she is feeding ok not to worry although if she is still snorting I will get the GP to check her at our vacs in a couple of weeks.

PP~~ Am sending post pack your way tomorrow...if I remember to stick it in the box when we are out.

We are on cyclone watch too, sometime this weekend they think. Better make sure I have what we need to evactuate (well evacuate to Grandma and Grandad's they have gas BBQ's so we can still cook and boil water.) I think I have enough of everything but I might grab an extra can of formula just in case. Extra baby panadol too since I think I am nearly out.

Have a good night mumma's and bubba's!!

thanks girls!!

Did you have a great night Hollye??

Amy - Here is Bethany's bloomers mk 1 :)

Bethany's bloomers front

Bethany's Bloomers Back

Bethany's Bloomers as Modelled by Ethan lol :)

Still have a couple to do :) will get some lace happening lol. I made them a bit bigger (they will fit now though) so they should last her up to about 12-18months (hopefully)

gosh quiet here today.

Well here's my idle question for the day - is anyone else addicted to overalls? He just looks so cute in 'em, I'm totally hooked!

Maya did really well at the wedding today. :loveshower: Everyone kept commenting on what a good baby she is. :) Though everyone wanted to hold/touch/look at her and she'd cry as soon as anyone came within eye shot. :rolleyes: I had to keep telling people that she is afraid of strangers.

When she was tired I had her in a sling so she could sleep and when she was awake she sat on my lap and looked around. The annoying thing was that it was a hot day and so I had to do more feeds than normal so I missed out on a lot of things like the cutting of the cake and the first dance. :( Also my DH didn't help me at all (cos he was in the wedding party and he said he felt that he had to help them out more and then he just sat at the wedding party table the whole time talking to the other grooms man! :rolleyes:) which I was not happy about! He also said that he didn't want to hold Maya cos he was afraid she'd spew on his rented suit! :rolleyes: But I'm proud of myself for being able to get through such a big day on my own and proud of Maya too! :)

*tanya*~~ Glad that Maya went well, and good for you for managing solo!! What a super mummy!!

PP~~ Loving the bloomers (do they come with model he is pretty cute!!) the B on the back is adorable!!

Belfie~~ Not a lot of overall wearing here we are more a dress house but I think they would look pretty sweet on little boys!

Our photos went great today, I can't wait to get them!! They are really lovely and I am so pleased with them.

Hoping to make it to church tomorrow, we haven't been lately with all the issues happening around here with my bipolar etc but will try for tomorrow.

Nothing else to add really. I think I will head to bed with my book :)

Morning everyone - quickie here

belfie - no overalls here - Zander is too long and they fit too tight when do buttons up around his bottom etc - he's not as chubby, just really long - even the osteo commented - he has a measure next Thursday so I will be interested to see how long he is!

tanya - phew, the day is over and you got through it! There will be many more like that and each one will give you more and more confidence :)

amy - look afteryourself hun, hope your water drinking is going ok

PP - I'm lucky to be able to sew a button !!!

DH, Zander and I are going out to lunch for our anniversary today to a nice flash restaurant outside - a friend is coming over to look after the other two - should be nice!

belfie - I haven't got any overalls for Maya. Can you upload some pics of Xander in his overalls? :)

Sami - Enjoy your lunch today. :)

I uploaded a pic of Maya and I at the wedding: here

loved the pic Tanya.

I've uploaded an overalls pic here... i hadn't realised no-one else shares my obsession lol. just ordered some more overalls online today too... :redface: soooo cute.

belfie i too share an overall fetish :p BUT it has been too hot for them here lately :( so it has mainly been t shirt and nappy time...

Amanda and Georgi - have your boys started to sleep through again? Just curious cos after a week of waking around 3am for a feed on avg, Zander has gone the last 3 nights sleeping through again from 7-8pm to 6-7am. I know they can do this due to lots of reasons heat, growth, alertness etc - i am just loving my sleep again though LOL

Ethan has been waking about 3am. but i wont feed him until 5am. so we resettle with the dummy or cuddles in the aim he will sleep through soon :)

SAMI Yep, Byron sleeps through. He did wake at 1.30am on Saturday night but that's cause DH wrapped him before bed & didn't do it properly so Byron got out & scratched himself, so I fed him for 4 mins before he fell asleep again.

How is Zanders feeding since the Osteo? Byron fussed big time on the left this morning so I put him on the right & he fed perfectly. He must be out of alignment.

Georgi - well no big change - she did say she didn't think he had any real probs, just a little bit tight - I have learnt though that Zander bites when he has had enough, and his new trick is still having nipple in mouth, and then cooing around it :ROFL: - he must think - well mummy is trying to get me to stay on, so I will, but I will tell her what I think ..... his feeding is just quick - he'll drink what he wants I spose! Zander also prefers to turn his head to the left when sleeping too - but he does sleep on the right - we all have preferences. He is having a follow-up on Friday but I don't think we will need anythign else ....

Out of the mouth of babes - my osteo has dark skin, she is African, and just lovely. So, Giselle tells her - you have brown skin - she says - do you wanna eat me? My kids look appropriately stunned - she laughs and says cos some kids call her the chocolate lady LOL. So, my kids thinking this is so very funny, yell out to her from reception - Bye chocolate lady!! with all the exuberance they can muster - few looks from ppl waiting - I thanked her for dealing with it that way - they were not being rude or disrespectful, it was just an observation that was correct! ANyway, I digress .... :)

Sami yep Julian has started to sleep thru again, I do believe that it was from the 12 week growth spurt, I think it lasted for about a week then was back to sleeping thru again and boy was I happy for that. Julian has also learnt that he can control my boob with his hand, or he will smile with my boob in his mouth, it's so cute.

Well my little man has learnt two new tricks over the weekend, yesterday he finally rolled from back to tummy and now instead of just giving a giggle, he will laugh it is so cute see them do this. He also did his first wee on me, I'd just given him a bath and he was laying on his towel on his bed and suddenly I felt something warm on my pant leg, was so happy. Then he cracked up laughing and had a little chuck, then he laughed about that and then the hiccups.

oh my, Mia has been going down at 8pm (her usual bedtime) and i feed her at 11ish and the past 2 days she has slept till like 9-10am! wow!

jack is asleep in bed usually by 10/10.30pm...sleeps til 6am :D BUT having said that i am slowly trying to get him into bed earlier...for a longer sleep... tonight he will be bathed and ready by 8.30pm and i will feed at 9..and settle him off hopefully by 9.30pm :D
weighed him this morning...6.68kgs :rolleyes: BIG BULL

Maya is also sleeping longer again - waking around 6-7am rather than 4am. But I still can't get her into bed before 10-10.30pm. And I find she does a second longish sleep (3-4 hours) from 7-8am till 10-11am. I'm not sure if I should try and change her routine somehow because I end up sleeping in the morning with her and I find it hard to get to any appointments in the mornings! Though I have no idea how to change her routine.

Question: Any ideas on what I could get my niece for her 1st birthday? I always buy books but wanted to get something different. The thing is my nieces have so much stuff already - toys, books, clothes, etc. And my SIL is really into looks and expensive things IYKWIM. So I really struggle to think of what to buy.

Maya is also sleeping longer again - waking around 6-7am rather than 4am. But I still can't get her into bed before 10-10.30pm. And I find she does a second longish sleep (3-4 hours) from 7-8am till 10-11am. I'm not sure if I should try and change her routine somehow because I end up sleeping in the morning with her and I find it hard to get to any appointments in the mornings! Though I have no idea how to change her routine.

Question: Any ideas on what I could get my niece for her 1st birthday? I always buy books but wanted to get something different. The thing is my nieces have so much stuff already - toys, books, clothes, etc. And my SIL is really into looks and expensive things IYKWIM. So I really struggle to think of what to buy.

Opps.. just realised I did a double post. I was struggling to get my post through cos BB kept being unavailable. And somehow it must have gone through twice. :wall:

I can't work out if there's a way to delete one of them? :dunno:

i know, buy her some babylegs! (just google babylegs in aus). Her mum is unlikely to have those (i hope!)

oh and X's routine is all out the window since we got back - he's still a bit sick (and so am i :wall:), so I copped a 4.30am feed this morning. doh! The paed reckons it's just a virus, but don't they say that bubs on breastmilk don't get colds? Or is a virus different?

Also, does anyone know a safe way to elevate one end of a cot? can you do it and still have them be safe? My fear is that he'd be in danger if he slid to the bottom, but atm we're sleeping him in his stroller, cos he just chokes on phlegm if we put him down flat.

belfie you can buy 'stackers" for the legs of the cot from baby shops.... me...i use phone books under one end of the matress....

belfie - we have always used towels folded up at one end under the wheels - of course they need re-doing every week or so - but much cheaper. have tried a phone book like katones, but depends where you live as to how big they are!!! LOL I don't think Melbournes would suit unless you have those local directory ones.

I have always elevated my cot for bubs for the first 4 months, and it doesn't have to be elevated so much that bubs slides down :ROFL: - just a little bit helps. - and b/f bubs do get colds - just that they don't get as sick as if FF cos of the antibodie business. That's why they can still turn on a big smile in amongst the snot, whilst we struggle to get up ...

Tanya - play tent if they haven't already got one - my kids have always had so much fun with them!

I am worried about tonight - Zander fed at 6.15am, 9.40am and then not until 3pm, and then 6.45 - so I am hoping he doesn't get up tonight and he still had enough in those feeds - can't tell how much he takes :rolleyes: We went out this morning and he had a catnap in the pram so when we got home and had a little play i put him back down hoping for an hour - and he did 2.5 hrs :doh:

SamiH - dont worry.. he would have kept feeding if he was still hungry. Even if u have to get up to him tonight thats ok coz tomorrow night u prob wont.

Hello all!!
Its all happening up here in the far north, we have been flooded in most the day. Managed to get out and get some vital supplies in the lull. DH couldn't get to work so had him at home too! I tell you the amount of rain here never ceases to amaze me, we had about the same amout of rain in a 24hr period that Canberra(where I lived before) would get in a year!!! over 300mm.

The water drinking is going pretty good, I am averaging around 2 liters a day. No real bad side effects from the new meds either which is pretty good. Headaches but hey you can't add a major drug like this and not expect something hey?

Can't offer any 1st bday suggestions sorry

Hope X feels better soon, poor little fella

Katones, left you a reply for your comment in my gallery!! Made us all laugh. DH not sure about hubba hubba's being aimed at his little princess... :D

Hi everyone else.

Ok off to get some stuff done!!

SAMI- My gosh, Byron & Zander are so similar. Byron also has started biting & cooing around my nipple. Like he teases me saying, ok I'm gonna have more... Ah ha ha, no i''m not.... Yes I am... Oh no i'm not. He's only been feeding for 8 minutes. I don't let him go for more than 4hours without a feed & I make sure I get 5 feeds in per 24 hours. So basically there is 1 feed that in only 2.5hours since the last. Byron also turns his head to the left when he sleeps. He's got a little bit of flat head on that side.

Byron has had such a sleepy day today. He woke at 6am, down at 7.30am, woke at 10am, down at 11.30, woke at 2pm, down at 3.30, woke at 5pm, down at 6pm. I will wake him at 8.30pm for his last feed. Plus he did another up the back poo. So out with the nappy san for the new jumpsuit he was wearing. He likes to christen :lol: his new outfits.

BELFIE You can buy a cot elevation pad from Toys r us. I got one for my baby shower. I think they're only about $20

TANYA Man I so know what you mean. My sister is exactly the same. Into expensive brand names & her girls have EVERYTHING! One of my nieces turned 1 last Nov, I bought her an ID bracelet from the Jewellery shop. $40 plus $10 to engrave her name. It was sterling silver & had a little charm on it. My sister loved it. Plus it's the chain type, not bangle, so you can clip in tighter so it fits perfectly.

Hi to everyone :D

Thanks for the bday present suggestions. I'm not sure if my niece has a play tent already or not. She probably doesn't have any babylegs. So that might be an idea. I know my niece already has an ID bracelet though (she got one for Christmas).

Tonight we had two milestones:
1) My DH gave Maya a full EBM bottle feed!! :dance: At first she resisted the bottle but eventually she latched on and drank all the milk. I did have to give her a little top up before bed though because it wasn't quite enough. Also I just cannot express any milk in the evenings so I haven't been able to replace the feed she took.
2) We got her into bed by 9.30pm. :)

Tomorrow it is going to be 37 degrees here so I'm going to go hide at my mother's house in her air con. And the hour's drive there and back I'll have air con in the car.

Woo hoo on the EBM Tanya, and good luck surviving the heat tomorrow. We're just gonna hole up I think!

Re expressing, if it helps, my expressing pattern during the day (bearing in mind I'm a full-time expresser) is usually 200-390 in the morning, trailing down to ~100ml in the evening/afternoon. If I express more frequently (i.e. 2 hourly), then I get 100ml. If it's 3-4 hourly, I'd get ~150-200 ish. So I imagine expressing after feeds in the morning would be the most productive, but I'm sure there's individual variation there too. It's hard work trying to express after feeds I reckon. So well done!

As for the cot, well I've tried some yellow pages, and it looks pretty good. In retrospect, maybe my fears re sliding babies were groundless :redface: lol! Thanks for the good suggestions.

Oh and X has taken to smiling around his bottle too - cracks me up big time.

amy_o - well done on the water drinking :clap: sounds like you are doing really well!

I'm feeling as fat as butter today. Mind you, the horizontal stripes I'm wearing really aren't helping1 :doh: Have resolved to go off dairy on Thurs AND start eating healthier... (provided my cold has gone). There! It's in writing now, I might even do it!

Well just as I thought, I have just fed the little monkey!

Georgi - yeah I like him to take 5 b/feeds during the day, and with the next few days here gunna be like 38 degrees, I am sure he will feed more :rolleyes: And yes they sound very similar, I better check the next phone bill to make sure they aren't scheming together hehehe.

Belfie - fat as butter? I soooooo get that, I am feeling a bit floppier lately too, but I am waiting until school goes back as at the moment I find it too hard to gt out with the 3 of them for any more than a 500m walk to the shops.

Tanya - ow hard to buy presents when there is expectations there - just remember you are buying for the 1 year old and not their parents ;)
well done on the bottle, i havent given zander once for 6 weeks cos of no time to express on holidays and all - and hubby traveling no one else to give bottle at the moment ... oh well.

morning ladies....
well.... we are now on GOATS formula...as SOY was bunging the poor little man up BADLY!!!!after his first bottle of goat formula last night he was SOOOO relaxed and NOT irritable, played for abit then happily off to sleep. His last feed was at 9..played for abit then fought going to sleep but prior to that was relaxed :) woke abit i resettled and he slept til 5.50am... was fed then slept til 9am...is now happily laying on the floor watching tv :) was rolling like a madman when i put him on his tummy :D

katones it sounds like the goats milk formula is going to work a treat.

Tanya Cody my fourth boy was b/f for 17mths and in the first 6mths he had tonsilitis 3-4 times, like Sami said it just helps them to stay a little more happy and not get it as bad as it could be.

hugs xoxo

AmandaJ...i hope so!!!! he has just had his second feed today (6am drank EVERY last drop, 10am feed left 60mls) and is in his bouncer....give hime 45mins and he will be grizzly..time for sleep :D
his baptism gown should arrive today :)

Katones, that's fab re the goats milk formula! you must be so pleased!

my little man was up at 2am and just unhappy. He kept rubbing at his head and near his ear... so some panadol & cuddles did the trick. Poor little fella.

awww poor Xander :( NOT nice when they are grumpy ..
well the 45mins didn't last...he is asleep now....

katones - Good news about the goats milks. :)

belfie - Yeah I just cannot express in the afternoon/evening. That's great if you can get 100 mls in the evening. I tried expressing at 10pm (her previous feed was at 5pm) and it took me forever to get 20 mls from one breast and I couldn't get anything from the other side. Whereas in the morning I can get 60-100 mls easily. Also I wonder if an electric pump can get more milk out or not? Because with a manual pump there is milk that I just cannot get out but Maya can. I hope X is feeling better soon!

Well I also had an interesting night. I woke up at 3.30pm and my bbs were so unbelievably sore cos last feed had been at 5pm. So I had to get up and express and I managed to get 120 mls from one bb! It took me till 4am to finally feel OK again and then Maya woke for a feed. :wall: I was worried cos I thought I'd have no milk left for her but I just can't express all my milk so I still had some available. But it took her a lot longer to feed from them - I guess cos it was probably harder to get the milk out. I finally got her back in bed around 5am and then had to do some settling. So was up for about 2 hours. :wall: I've decided that I won't do a full bottle feed before bed time again unless I've gone out somewhere. :lol:

I'm also feeling floppier lately around my stomach. I'm not even sure if my muscles are back together. I'm thinkin of talkin to the MCHN tomorrow when I go in for Maya's 3 month appointment.

Anyway I'm off to my mother's to sit in her air con. Have a great day ladies.

Hi Girls Sorry i havent been on much - been busy lately and i have decided to cool down my Internet time and delve into other avenues of relaxation and recreation :)

Tanya - perhaps some yoga or pilates is in order to strengthen you rback and belly muscles a little ? It is hard you go from stretched, to having to carry bub all the time and it is a big adjustable for you belly muscles!! esp your side ones!

Also maya will get some milk. You are prob best to just express off a little overnight is you wake up uncomfy rather than a full bottle. That way after a few nights- to a week your bb's will calm down a little. If you express lots in the middle of th enight, your bb's will keep producing lots inthe middle of the night (esp if maya is feeding srtaight after) because they will be sending singals that maya is EXTRA hungry at 3-4am and increase their supply. I hope that makes sense :)


Presents... ashley's favourite first birthday presents were (as it is not that long ago i still remember lol)... balls! she loves balls to kick and play with, a sandpit/clam shell (loves water).. and you know what i love people to buy, lots of pencils and crayons and paints... cause they always dissapear somewhere!!! she hides them in places but loves to draw and scribble! :) You can never have enough drawing things!! :)


Kat - woohoo on the goats formula. i hope it is the answer you are looking for :) And how is the christening outfit? I saw it arrived!... i am procrastinating on the baptism front as i am dreading the organisation. Everythibng needs to be a HUGE PARTY and do. You cant just have coffee and cake afterwards . You need to FEED people and not just 10 people - everyone.. 100 + it drives me crazy lol.... i will get over it soon i am sure.

Belfie - i hope your little man is feeling better. Ethan has been waking at 4am lately. THis morning though he did a big poo i could smell it lol so i let him get away with that one hahaha! BUt he came and snuggled with me until ashley was up at 7am :)

Amy - hope you are ok in the floods. I actually miss Nth qld weather ... brisbane weather sucks. I miss the smell of the rain coming in, and the cool winds int he evening from the ocean. awwww... i want to move back up there... all in good time... hopefully we will get the opportunity to go back in a year or 2 .. fingers crossed.

Woohoo on the water though. Lately i have been so busy i am lucky to eat before dinnerm and that is when i get a drink .It is bad i know, but i just dont stop lol. i have had theworst migraines because of it, and so i am making changes! lol

I have made 3 covers so far and i have a gorgeous pair of ashleys she wore as a little tike, so i will try to make another pair and send them up . Is that enough? I am not a professional ok? lol so if there are small dodgy stitching i am sorry :)


Georgi - cheeky byron. I find if i look at ethan when he feeds he pulls off, smiles and laughs at me. and i say... you have to drink now no smiling and he smiles more! rofl. oh well those boys! i tell you what! lol

Hollye - are things getting any easier approaching the 3 month mark?

HI to everyone else. i havent forgotten you but i have been typing for ages and should get off :)

*hugs*

will upload some piccies of Jack trying his gown on.....
nah we are only having family no friends...we are getting subway platters done, cake drinks and nibblies...15 people max i think....