Babies Born October 1st-15th 2008 #8

[amy_o]

Fluff~~ I thought an exorsist (sp?) could get rid of our demon babies but they are expensive I think....LOL

Well finally some good news, the speech pathologist is happy with Bethany's feeding, now we just need to put some weight on! Next weigh in Friday...

[Moi]

Georgi - I've thought about getting a chair like BJ has. Can you attach it to a chair? I hope you and BJ have a better nights sleep tonight.

Sami - I did a bit of research on the formulas and now I understand what it's based on means the fats that are in the formula. So S26 has beef fat in it and Karicare has vegetable fat in it. Yeah Maya hasn't had any problems on the S26. But she only ever takes 140ml at most a day and it can vary between 20 to 140 mls. So I don't think it really matters what she's on cos she only has a small amount. Plus she's already eating meat and doesn't have a problem with that either. But I can fully understand your reasoning and it's something I just had never thought to find out about.

Yeah I only use a sippy cup for water too not b/m. But I'm lucky that Maya takes a bottle. I'm sure Z will get there with a bit of practise. It's still 2 months till he goes to day care, that's plenty of time for things to change.

amy - That's great that Bethany is feeding better now.

fluff - Did Jack have any more naps?

I took Maya to the doctors and her ear is still sore and irritated but it's not an ear infection at the moment. Hopefully it won't turn into one! The doctor also looked at Maya's gums (cos she was interested to see where her teeth were not cos anything would be wrong) and she said "oh all her teeth are just about to come out". And I said "they've been about to come out for 2 months now!"

[Georgi]

TANYA - yep, it attaches onto a dining chair. I put it on the floor cause we don't have a dining chair as such. Our beautiful dining table has bench seats (bali style)

I have had a terrible day. BJ just wouldn't sleep. I guess him & Jack have been talking. Plus, I've had this stup headache & cramping. I just wanted to get some sleep myself. Thankfully DH took BJ off my hands when he got from work so I could have a shower & take some time out! I felt much better after this. But then...... He wouldn't have his BF He has NEVER not wanted this feed just before bed. After loads of crying & screaming, & some panadol, he finally had a feed and thankfully went to sleep without a sound. Man...... I just don't know why he's like this today. I wonder if he senses that I feel crapiola... Possible? We have our fortnightly MG lunch tomorrow so hopefully he'll be better tomorrow.

[1MOREPLZ]

Nope no more sleeps in this house BUT he managed to hold up all the way through groceries and then a bath...then bottle then snuggled to sleep...and is now sound asleep

Feeding front...Jack is taking 300mls at a night feed...seems to be a hungry boy...so i am not going to not give it to him...I have also been thinking he isn't FULL hence the waking up bit the past few nights??

Amy_o ~ nah...can not afford an exorcist...am too poor gotta pay another car rego this month glad the speech pathologist was happy With Bethany progress...bring on the weigh in!!!! heres hoping she has gained

Belfie ~ hun thanks for the 'model' child comment..i guess my child isn't a 'model ' child like all others???

[belfie]

Belfie ~ hun thanks for the 'model' child comment..i guess my child isn't a 'model ' child like all others???

lol is there any such thing as a model child? The target catalogue might try to make us think so... but me, I doubt it! I just hope things have improved for you and Amy... like Amy said, an exorcist sounds expensive!

[csab]

Hi all, long time no see....

Have been having trouble with the internet, so after a while just gave up on it. Anyway, it seems ok now.

Have been reading some of your posts, but keep getting interrupted. Anyway for those of you trying to get bubs on a bottle, just wondered if you have tried a new bottle thats out called Adiri.... It is soooo cool. My sister was working at the baby expo and bought me one for V, yet V isnt that fussed on it atm. It is in the shape of a BB, and is a all in one bottle. The teat doesnt get replaced and gets filled up from the bottom. Since it is similar to the BB, it might be easier to get them to take. Since V has been on the bottle for a while now, she is used to the normal teats, so when she tries the new one she hasnt got much to latch onto as it is like a nipple.

Cant believe some of these bubs have 5 teeth already, V still has the one.

Tanya, Amy - You girls are doing really well with your little ones. Tanya, I am so glad Maya reached the 6kg mark. Woohoo. I will find out tomorrow what V weighs.

Belfie - Everytime I have a morning cuppa, still just the one. I believe her second one is going to come thru soon tho. Woohoo 5.....

Georgi - I hope BJ is being good to mummy today and that headache you had is gone. AF is not much fun now that she has decided to return is it. I dread that time of the month. hugs I will call you as soon as I get a chance.

I hope everyone else is doing well. I hope to get on here a bit more soon.

Well since February 14, we have had Valentines day, the a birthday in March, then easter then 2birthdays in April and a Wedding anniversary, then another birthday and Mothers day in May, so have been sooo busy. Along with doing bookwork, and having sick kids on and off. Then the internet being difficult.
Anyway, while I have a chance I will let you all know how V is doing. V is doing really well, apart from when she had her immunisations, whoich she didnt handle too well. She is always smiling, has her giggles all the time, her little leg when she is happy or excited just swings constantly, hehehe. Although she doesnt always say it, I have heard Mum a couple of times and over the past couple of days Dada has come up on a few occassions. All in amongst her baby babble and squeals. She looks at herself in the mirror and giggles at herself, soo cute. Still little, but I can see she is growing. So fingers crossed for tomorrow as we have her pead appt at 11.30am. Hoping she is at least 5.5kg. I guess I will find out when her operation will be done to remove her cyst then too.
She is such a fussy eater, but is slowly starting to eat more variety, yet downside is even tho she only picks at the solids, she is starting not to have much bottle either and whinges and turns her head and pushes the bottle away almost every feed, thankfully tho she eventually takes it. She is such a small eater, and is lucky to have her full feed all at once. The most she has ever had in a sitting is 160ml. Anyway will let you know what her weight is tomorrow. hugs all.

[csab]

Hi All,

Update on V:

Well today went well, V still hasnt hit the 5.5kg mark just yet but she will soon. We havent booked her Op yet as the pead said she is still to little to have it done. He said normally the bubs are ok to go under GA but V isnt the size of a 6mth old so we must wait. He said even if we did book it they would send us home due to her size. I have a referral to have her hips ultrasound so will do that soon.

Anyway heres V's measurements. Weight: 5.230kg Length: 61.5cm HC 41.5cm

[Moi]

csab - It's great to hear from you and hear how V has been doing. She sounds like she's doing really well. Maya has also been a frustrating eater at times. Thankfully she's doing better with her food at the moment. Hopefully V will get there with her food soon. Maya also isn't the size of a 6 month old. All the bubs in my MG are a lot bigger than her. People often assume she's 3 months old. We just have small but mighty bubs.

That Adiri looks interesting. I googled it. When Maya wouldn't take a bottle I eventually found she'd take the Tommy Tippee Closer to Nature. which is also more breast like.

Sami - Are there some mothers you could borrow bottles from to see if Z will take them? I tried the Tommy Tippee one from a mum at MG before buying them.

I hope all the non-sleeping babies are back to sleeping again!

Maya is nearly better now. She's got a cough and a runny nose but seems a lot happier and back on food again. In fact she's eating more than before she got sick. Maybe she's making up for not eating well?! I can tell she's grown again cos she now fits into 00 pants around the waist! They don't fall off her any more.

Tonight I'm going on a girls night out to see a play! I can't remember what the play is - though I do remember it's not something I'm really interested in. I'm going cos my DH said he'd look after Maya and I thought I could do with a night out!! OMG I'm getting excited now!! haha.. I haven't had a night out.. since... who knows when!

[Georgi]

CSAB - Glad all went well at the paed, although V didn't make the weight you were hoping for. She sounds like she's doing just perfectly. Sorry I missed your call yesterday. I was busy laying down with BJ so he would sleep.

BJ has his first sickness. It's not too bad, but he has a stuffed up nose. I can only tell when he's BF'ing, he sounds phlemy (sp?). He must've got it off a baby at MG. Not sure if it's affecting him much, but he has been an outright PIA. He wouldn't sleep yesterday so I ended up laying down with him & he slept for nearly 1.5hrs. He went to be no probs up until 3.15am. He woke up crying, more of a whinge, so I left him at it for 1HOUR! He still didn't stop. I didn't wanna feed him as this normally makes him wake every 30mins or so, so I got him up out of bed. He was wide awake & happy! He didn't have red watery eyes so he wasn't crying, just whinging (which I could tell by his cries). I sat on the lounge with him & gave him some water. He didn't have much, just a couple of small mouthfuls then pushed the cup away. About 10mins later I changed his nappy & put him back in bed. He pretty much went straight to sleep. What's that about???? He woke again at 5.45 this time with a more urgent cry, so I fed him. He went straight back to sleep, thankfully. He did wake again with a little cry but went back to sleep. Thankfully he didn't wake till 8.15am. This is very unusual for him. The night before was a shoker too. He kept waking up. Do you think it's cause of his stuffed nose? Gosh, I hope he gets back to his normal sleeping self soon. I can handle the days of not sleeping, well kinda, but not the nights. I feel terrible that I feel so angry about it. I feel like a bad mum for getting upset that he wakes. I know babies do this but just can't handle it. I'm now begining to think I won't have a 2nd bub, it's too hard.

Gees, I've been whinging alot lately

[belfie]

I know babies do this but just can't handle it. I'm now begining to think I won't have a 2nd bub, it's too hard.

Gees, I've been whinging alot lately

Oh Georgi, I know the feeling (and I also think having 2 is insane on some days... on other days I want 2. Go figure huh!). I was having a whinge to my sister (who has 2 kids) the other week - and feeling like I shouldn't be whinging but i still was anyway, and she sent back these very wise words....

When they are little they are so dependent on you for everything, it's very tiring and demanding. If I came to live with you and you had to make and give me all my meals, dress me, help me bath, help me get in and out of bed, get in and out of the car, cried when I was tired and wanted things, and you had to watch me all the time I was awake you would be sick of it within a week. Fortunately babies are infinitely cuter, plus a bit lighter and more portable. But the principle is still the same - it's a tough job. No matter how good Mum was, the buck always stopped with me. Roll on Grandparenthood I say!

That made me feel a lot better. Even if you have an easy baby, whether you think you should be whinging or not - it's still a tough job, and you have your good days/nights and bad. And this is a great place for letting it out hope he has a better night tonight for you.

[SamiH]

Georgi hun - my husband always says this - and yes at times I feel like punching him in the head when he does ..... but ..... everything with babies is a phase ....

He wont do it when he is 4 and realistically it is such a short time for a lifetime of love and happiness with our children.

Giselle was a shocker night sleeper and stopped day sleeping at 18 months old. i was at work 3 days a week from when she was 10 months, and some days it was soooooo much easier to be at work than be home with her all day - I know it sounds harsh - but you all understand that feeling. I would be like the walking dead. She would scream overnight until she vomited if I just left her - this is after 18 months of age! And then I was worried she would wake Riley up, so I ended up cuddling her and eventually in our bed - took me about 6 months to get her out again LOL. But for the last 12 months - she goes to bed - stays there all night - and all is good

BJ is still so very little. Today you may only think you can cope with one baby - and if you have another - it will still be only one baby cos BJ will be a toddler!!!. The first few years can be so touch, but bring sooo much joy, wonder and laughter. Think of the times you have been watching him and tears have welled in your eyes cos you are just amazed at your love for him - or is that just hormonal me

I sit here and look at my bomb site loungeroom with toys everywhere, colouring books and pencils, baby toys (why are the littlest people always have the biggest toys!!??) - and it frusstrates me so much sometimes - but when they are all playing and laughing it is so precious - and when they can tell you they love you sooooo much mummy - words cannot describe

Anyways - Z has a little cold too which I still think is a bit teeth related, but G is home from preschool today cos she has a rudolph nose too. Quiet day. Z is not eating much - about 2 teaspoons a day - I just wish he would eat a bit more - but upside is he is still sleeping well at night time .... day times I can cope - but having said that he has been down for 50 mins so far fingers crossed

We have fireworks in the ACT this weekend so R is having a friend over for a play tomorrow arvo who lives in NSW (10kms away lol) - so that should be fun.

Willing the sun to come out to get my line full of washing dry ... looks like the only potential sunny day for the next week

[Moi]

He wont do it when he is 4 and realistically it is such a short time for a lifetime of love and happiness with our children.(

Georgi - :yeahthat: Though I soooo know how you feel!!! It's totally normal to feel the way you do. I go through days/moments of feeling like that. And when Maya was around 3 months old and I couldn't settle her at all for sleep I thought it was NEVER going to end. I think from that experience and from all the difficulties I had at the start I learnt that things do change eventually! I still have to remind myself of that from time to time, and there always seems to be something that frustrates me. Like at the moment I can't leave the room without her crying. Sometimes I get so frustrated by it and then other times I realise that she doesn't know that I'm coming back and she won't still be doing it in years/months to come.

BJs sickness is probably not helping either. I know when Maya has been sick her sleep has gone out the window.

I don't know if this will help but what I try and do is imagine things from her perspective. Like if BJ is waking and not resettling.. maybe it's because he's not feeling well at the moment or maybe he's missing his mum??

I've been where you are soooo many times! I remember you suggested sleep schools to me and you know what I got Tweddle at home and that changed things for me. Have you considered sleep school for BJ?

As for having a 2nd kid I already know there's no way I'll have a 2nd one before Maya is about 3 years old. I think 3 is a great age because she'll be able to do things for herself more, she will be able to help me a bit and I can enrol her in 3 year old kindy to get her out of the house.

[csab]

Tanya - The Pead was telling me yesterday he is going to keep an eye on her growth, and that atm he is happy with her progress and if he was to send her to a growth specialist then they would turn her away as she is right on the bottom line of the graph. However he said if she starts to fall off abit with her growth then he wants to refer her to the growth specialist then. I often get asked if V is 3mths, and they are always surprised when I tell them her age. I am glad Maya is getting better and eating better than before too. When I had my second bub, it ended up being just under 4yrs in an age gap. They arent as close as my DD's are, only 13mths apart so I am hoping and praying that once they are both adults they become better friends.

Georgi - My turn, thanks for your call, sorry I wasnt there to pick it up too. V was having a feed. Parenting isnt always easy hun, it is hard at times then it gets a bit easier until school starts then it starts to get a bit harder, then they become teenagers and it is harder again. I am currently waiting for the easy to settle back in with my oldest, hoping it will be soon, as he is almost 18. Actually have to say, I have seen an improvement with the older one lately, but the second oldest has started. I am thinking that at least with my 2 DD's I will pretty much get them in the hard time at the same time, then pretty much in the easy stage again at the same time. Does that make sense, apart from just mumble. hehehe. You really have done a wonderful job with BJ. You may feel differently about having another once BJ is abit older. hugs

Belfie - One day you and Georgi may just say to yourselves, What the heck, lets have another one. Look at me, thought that I would stop at 2, but kept going and going and going. hehehe. I think maybe I am the insane one. hahaha.

Sami - By the sounds of it your starting to make yourself clucky again. I keep wanting to talk DH around about having another one, definately dont like my chances, but also not ready for another until V is abit older. Even then when she is older, I dont like my chances talking DH around. Do you think you will have anymore, or definately thats it?

[Georgi]

Awwww, thanks so much girls. I am struggling at the moment but it's not all cause of his sleep. He's not taking his breastfeeds real well & I'm thinking it's time to start weaning. I am really worried he's just not getting enough milk. This could also be a reason his sleep is not good. He had his first morning feed at 5.45am. I didn't time it but assume it was around 4-5mins. His next feed was 10.45am & he only had a 4 min feed. I tried to feed him again at 12 as he only slept from 11 to 11.30am (I tried for 30mins to get him back to sleep), but he only had another 3mins. I would say I would have only just of let down by then so he probably didn't even get any milk. I decided I wasn't going to be stuck at home with him whinging & not sleeping so we went shopping. I tried to feed him again at 3pm, in the parents room, he suckled for 30seconds then simply refused. So I put him back in the pram & we continued to shop. He slept for around 15mins in the pram. We got home just after 4.30pm & he normally has his dinner at 5pm. He has been a little off his solids too. He was happy & in good spirits so the lack of sleep didn't seem to have affected him. He had some dinner, a bath & had only 4mins BF. I thought he'd want a big feed since he missed his afternoon feed So I expressed 60mls & he took about 55mls FROM THE BOTTLE. I am now thinking he is weaning himself, if that's possible at this stage. I've decided I will top him up with EBM until he's use to the bottle & taking full feeds from it. If he improves his BF's then I'll be happy to continue, but if he still isn't all that interested I'll introduce formula and get my body back! I'm feeling pretty sad about it and am hoping it doesn't become too stressful for me.

Thanks for listening, & I do appreciate your kind words Thanks girls

[Moi]

Georgi - I've been (and still am a lot of the time) where you are now. From about 3 months old Maya stopped taking breast feeds (only a couple of mins on each side) and she stopped sleeping well. It's been such a hard ride for me over the last few months because of her weight. To help with feeds I got an electric breast pump and would express after every feed and then top her up. Then I started giving her a bottle of formula as a dream feed and only expressed morning and night. Now I can't take the expressing twice a day any more so I'm only doing it at night time (though I can't always get anything out). Anyway, Maya is feeding a lot better now on the bb but I don't think it's because of anything I did. I think she just got over the phase she was in. And she will still sometimes only stay on for a couple of mins. What I did was such hard work and I won't do it again. If Maya starts eating poorly again I'll move her over to formula. My long winded point is.. that you have to do what feels right for you. Also, with the sleep schools they don't just focus on sleep. They look at the whole picture and try to sort out any eating issues too. So maybe sleep school is worth a consideration.

csab - I'm so glad that V is doing so well.

Hello everyone else. Where are you all? I expected to log on here and have a heap of messages to read up on. I hope you all had a good long weekend.

I got back into unpacking. I really want to fix this place up finally so that I can have visitors over. I also bought a new vacuum.. which (yes I know it's sad I'm excited about. They didn't have any in stock so we had to order one in. I can't wait to have a vacuum that actually picks up dirt!!

I'm feeling a bit sick today. Sore throat. Hope it doesn't develop into anything else. Specially cos tomorrow I'm going to an info session for some potential at home work! I hope the work turns out to be ok. It'd be nice to be doing something different again and earning some extra $$.

[SamiH]

Sami - By the sounds of it your starting to make yourself clucky again. I keep wanting to talk DH around about having another one, definately dont like my chances, but also not ready for another until V is abit older. Even then when she is older, I dont like my chances talking DH around. Do you think you will have anymore, or definately thats it?

Well, Dh said last night - so, do you think we have a full house, full car and full family now - I said what do you mean - he said are we having any more babies - I laughed at him .... so I think Csab I am pretty sure no more here Honestly, if I had a 2 year age gap between another and Zander - I would be 39 by the time #4 arrived - I is gettin too old and tired me finks .... unless he was going to lead into the vasectomy talk - someone interrupted us then. LOL

Tanya - yes I have TTCN bottle as well - Zander has taken 20mls, and I had a friend give him a bottle the other day 30 mls, then DH yesterday 20mls - and then he just screams the house down.

I posted in the Breastfeeding thread - but everyone assumed I was trying to give him EBM in a bottle - no I am trying to intro formula - I dont have the time or motivation to express when he will be 9 months old by the time he takes a bottle - I am comfortable with im having formula now and what we have done so far. i want to do morning and night feeds and have 2 x bottles during the day - surely thats not too much to ask, but Z-man has other ideas

Georgi - hope the baptism goes well - i never got back to you re clothes either, gosh I am slack - I seem to only remember the last few posts

Zander cut another tooth this morning - he has had a teething necklace on for 5 days - but hmmmm he has been a bit sad so my jury is still out on the therapeutic value of them as yet.

Supposed to snow in Canberra tomorrow - hope it snows properly and not just sleety mush so the kids can actually see and feel it

Absolutely freezing here - thank goodness we have nowhere to go today apart from school etc.

[csab]

Georgi - Hope all is well in Georgi and Byron land. In does sound like maybe Byron isnt getting enough BM, but I could be wrong. However when I was UTD with DD2, DD1 ended up turning off my milk and would have a little bit and turn her head. So I thought what a good chance to try her on Formula, as she kept refusing the bottle, when I had tried to wean her off, she ended up taking the bottle without any crying at all, and was happier again. You really need to do whats best for Byron and yourself, and only you will really know what that is. Hang in there hun, you will work it out. Also as Tanya mentioned with BJ not all that well, could be the reason for the feeding issues. hugs

Sami- I will be 39 in two yrs as well, boy doesnt that sound old. For me though I will my only chance of having another would be an accident..... Then DH can blame himself Are you sure your DH isnt thinking of extending your family.

Tanya - Woohoo for the unpacking, i hope you get settled soon. Thanks re V, she really is doing well. Still not sure when I will do her U/S for her hips tho, I guess I will have to do it soon. I hope you feel better soon. Goodluck with the info session tomorrow on the home work, I hope it works out for you. I get excited over new vaccums too. How is little Maya now?

Well went out to dinner last night, and V cried practically the whole time we were in the restaurant, poor bubba. She gets really shy, and doesnt like big crowds, unless it is at home. She had about 30min sleep while we were there, then woke up about 20mins before we were going to leave, and cried for about 10mins of that too, until the last 10mins she decided to settle. She was back to her normal self once we walked out of the restaurant. V is also teething again, expecting a tooth to come thru soon. She loves babbling away to herself and calling out dada, hehehe. I tried getting her to say Mama instead but dada definately triupmhed. She said mum about twice and has never said it since. hehehe Ohh well.

[belfie]

quick me post. I have a boy who has been covered in hives tonight. Second night running this has happened, poor little mite is soooo unhappy - it's settling down now but he's totally overtired & revved. Rang the pharmacy and all the antihistamines are for over 1's... i'll take him to the doc, but just wondering have any of you ever used any antihistamines in under 1's?

hi to everyone hope you're going well