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csab - I am breastfeeding. I had very sore nipples with some grazes when I first started, but since then I haven't been sore. My problem has been that I often have to wake Maya for a feed! Then once she's awake I can't get her to go back to sleep and I have to constantly feed every couple of hours. I've worried about whether she's getting enough to eat actually, because when she's awake for a long time she'll often suck her hands or me, but maybe that's comfort sucking?! I just find it hard to know if I'm doing things right or not. Also I find it takes me about an hour to feed with my routine of feed, change and feed. How long do other people spend breastfeeding?
hippiemummy - Good to hear you are doing so well. :)
SamiH - I keep not napping during the day.. and every night think 'tomorrow I should have a nap' and then never do! I do need to take your advice to rest up!
Tanstar - :hug: I've been going through the same type of thoughts of 'things didn't go to plan'.. I cried for a couple of days when I got home about my c/s experience. I feel like I didn't get to birth my baby, someone else did it! I don't even know what it feels like to start labour - waters breaking, contractions, etc and I feel like I missed out on something. Plus the c/s was so quick and I wasn't even told that they had started. So I was still waiting for them to start, when I heard a baby cry and they showed me a baby saying it was mine. It took me a while to connect that the baby they were showing me was mine, which I find so sad that I didn't know she was mine to begin with. :( And then I was extremely sick for two days and missed out on the first two days of her life. I have since moved on and know that what matters is that I have my daughter and she is safe and well. But it still upsets me to think I didn't get to experience the labour I wanted.
AmandaJ - Sounds like you are managing well with 5 kids! :)
kuraiza - :hug: I'm finding it really overwhelming too. I have no idea what I'm doing either!! And even though I have family around in Melbourne, they aren't helpful at all (they sound like your in-laws). :( So I feel like I'm on my own. I found out a mother's group starts here on the 12th November, so I'm really looking forward to that!! I think getting out and meeting other women in the area will be very helpful. :)
It's Me I'm also feeding Julian for about an hour, and he is sleeping really well, so I wouldn't be worried with that length at this point.
Kuraiza wow that's a bit scary about the lump, hopefully it's nothing to worry about :fingerscross:
Tan I'm also wearing one of the sexy body stockings, but my separation was only 4cms so not as big as yours, did you also get told about wearing those undies that have the higher waist and pull you in like the stockings?
hugs xoxo
Hey girls... Looks like everyone is settling in nicely with their new bubs.
I just got back from 5 days away with DH & DS. We stayed in a permanent caravan at Lennox Head. It was nice but Byron had his shots on Monday & I think that's unsettled him. He seems to cry all the time & isn't sleeping as well. Now we're home I'm hoping to get him back into his routine & sleeping like a baby again. I'm doing fine though. Just being persistant. I've been tempted to use the dummy but still staying strong!
Byron was weighed & measured on Monday. He's growing so fast. He's now 4.43kg... He's doubled his weight in 8weeks.
I experienced my first up the back poo this morning. Lucky DH was home to help me clean Byron up. I'd heard of these poos but hadn't experienced it. We were amazed how much poop there was. No wonder he was restless this morning. Sleeping perfectly now.
Got the in laws coming tomorrow night & staying till Thursday so I don't think I'll get much BB time. I'll try to catch up with personals a little later...
Girls, I am crashing your party.
As Curl previously said there is only curl, belfie, myself and one other lady has popped in once in our baby thread ..... so I am jumping in here and figure we can not worry about the 5 days difference from when Zander was born to 01/10 hehehehe.
Kuraiza - I understand re the visitors - i loved having my sister here a week after he was born, but with her two kids as well, not so great. Her nearly 3 year old is very active (read : nightmare) - or maybe it just felt like it when he got his energy boost at 7pm and I just wanted them all to shut-up! THen a couple of days after she left my MIL came - didn't do anything either around here apart from hang out a couple of loads of washing - and even one day around 4pm I was feeding and my DH said to ME - what are we doing for dinner tonight - I was a bit abrupt and said surely between the two of you you could sort out something for us all to eat without me doing it??!!??!! :angry:
Itsme - I am feeling the not napping thing today I tell you - but DD is home and running me ragged as well argh .... much as I love em ..
Gotta run Z is having a cry :(
jump on in samih! I few girls have jumped it. We asked if the groups could be combined but i dont think so... do people want me to post a thread to the mods asking directly?
Anyhow i have the flu feel like poo, dd is getting over HFMD and i worked out DS is crying approx 7-9 hrs a day! omg... atm he is asleep on his belly on my bed. i needed him to sleep and i know it is against the rules but omg! He also has a snotty nose which makes it hard for him to breathe overnight.
So is a litle sucky here atm. thank god it is the weekend tomoz
HAPPY HALLOWEEN to everyone... i have my lollie bags ready for the kidlets inthe street when they start a knockin!!
Aw hi Sami- Im crashing too!!! Bummer about the IL's - I'd be annoyed about dinner, and have to say I've done nothing but rest and feed James since being home. We have been lucky with friends popping over with dinner etc too.
Amanda - Yeah I have a nice tube thing but it gives me a bit of a tummy ache at times so I have been a tad norty and not wearing it every day. I got mum to get me some of those knickers too but I really need them to come up to my ribs - if they sit just above my belly button it hurts and my separation is right above that - ah well - am just being super good with sitting up etc.
Georgi - awww Byron has nearly hit James birth weight of 4560g!!!! :) I can't wait to get away too but I think it will be a little while away yet! Those shots are nasty - not looking forward to them although I have to say Izzy wasn't tooooo bad with them. :hug: I hope Byron settles down soon for you.
PP- Hope you get better soon lovely and Ethan too, nothing worse than being sick really and having to look after sick little ones as well. Our little man wants to sleep on his tummy too - can't wait til he is rolling and he can!
Kuraiza - :hug: hun - hang in there, it is such a huge adjustment in the first few weeks but if you are feeling terribly blue let your MCHN know hun. I have good and bad days and on the bad days I know it is literally just lack of sleep that I don't cope with very well - everything seems like the end of the world really and Im still sore from the c/s. Hope you are feeling brighter soon love. As far as the chocolate goes - I know there are a few triggers like chocolate, caffeine, onion etc... and I ate a putt load of it the other day - which coincided with a really bad night so I just put 2 and 2 together. He was drawing his legs up, straining and groaning and generally having a bad time of it all.
Itsme - :hug: I know the feeling all too well after my first c/s and now this one. I hate that I will never birth my babies and won't go for a number 3 purely because I can't do another c/s.... I haven't debriefed or really thought about not getting my vbac this time around, but in time I will write a huge boo hoo I think. I did it with Iz and it did make me feel better to get all my feelings about it out. Yes our aim was to get our gorgeous healthy babies that we now have and love, but it is ok to grieve the birth we didn't get.... there is nothing wrong with that at all hun. :hug: Don't forget you can go for a vbac with your second too, so may still get the birth you wanted. :hug:
That's all the personals I can manage sorry! Our little man LOVES sleeping on us and we manage to alternate him sleeping in his cradle and on daddys chest each day - mine smell too milky so all he wants is more feeds so its up to him for now! Mum made me a HAB too and DH has been loving wearing it while playing with Izzy while I rest! Super easy and only $20 compared to $140 for a real one!
James tends to sleep ok but we have to make sure he has huge burps after a feed and then lots of upright time or else he does little chucks and then gets the hiccups and wakes up. Ok gotta fly ladies - grizzly little guy! :hug: to you all!
SAMI I crashed this thread too. I thought it was better for me to be in here as Byron was due Oct 14th and all his milestones should go from his corrected age so if I stayed in the August group I wouldn't be comparing apples with apples IYKWIM
TAN How funny is that.. Byrons not even the weight James was when he was born.. and he's 7 weeks older...
PP I was so glad to read your post saying that Ethan cries 7-9hrs a day. Byron has now started being a normal baby and seems to cry almost all of his awake time. I was hoping it was normal. He seems so much more unsettled to what he use to be. Once he hit that due date he became known.
Hi ladies
Miraculously feeling so much better since the useless inlaws left. :)
Georgi: I love lennox head. That's so cool you had a holiday with Byron. Out of interest, was he named after the Bay? He's gained so much weight! I wish Jude would gain some weight, although my arm muscles need time to adjust. I've been experiencing weird muscle twitches and aches in my arms from supporting him while breastfeeding.
SamiH: I have my sister coming in about a week. Fortunately the 1 good thing about living in a small apartment is that no one can actually stay here, but she's staying in the holiday apartments next door so we should see a lot of them. I can't wait to see my nephew and niece. My 3-year-old nephew told my sister "I love Jude so much, I'm going to gobble him up".
Tanstar: I followed your lead and I've been holding Jude upright after feeds and it's greatly improved his vomitting which is such a relief because I was sooooo worried he wasn't getting enough milk in his belly to grow up big and strong.
Well, Jude is just a sucker for his dummy (pun fully intended). He's an addict, I swear! Although, it's not too bad. When he's tired (which is rare) he spits it out and goes to sleep. He just loves sucking on anything he can fit in his mouth, and the dummy seems like the safest object for him to suck. I'm soooo glad we realised that was one of his primary desires or we'd be going mad trying to figure out how to soothe him. I suspect he'll be saying "dummy" long before he says "mummy". He already says "Burr" after he sneezes. What a clever boy! :p
Thought I should jump in here, Bethany was born on the 9th Oct...well nearly the 10th since it was 11:44pm. Finally after 2 days! talk about delaying your arrival. It was a c/s in the end. Not the greatest experiance. It was supposed to be a normal easy induction....Anyways I digress. We are bottle feeding since I never had any milk come in. Combination of reasons. She is pretty good at going 4 hours between feeds but at night she still wants play time after a feed! We have started a "night" routine with dimmed lights and the like to help her tell the difference, seems to be working although its only been a few days...
Well I can hear little feed me squeeks...
welcome amy!
your night routine sounds great . i hope your little one learns soon to sleep at night lol
Ethan doesnt want to play at night but doesnt settle as well as during the day go figure!!
Welcome Amy! I follow the same night routine as you.. dim lights, etc. And it seems to work on most occasions.
kuraiza - Good to hear you are feeling better. :) ohh.. and my DH decided to try giving Maya a dummy to help settle her.. and she won't take one. I dunno if we left it too late or she was never going to like a dummy. It's great that it works well for you!! :)
Georgi & PP - I'm also glad to read about all the crying. I feel like Maya cries so much when she's awake. I'm glad to know I'm not alone! :hug:
Tanstar - I've also got the tube thing and I also find it uncomfortable to wear.. So I must admit I think I've only worn it a couple of times! And thanks for your words of wisdom... I do need to grieve the labour I didn't have. :hug:
PP - Hope you are feeling better! :hug:
A newbie question: Does anyone have any good tips on breast feeding in public? I feel like I either have too much boob and/or tummy showing and feel self-conscious about that! I've tried using wraps but still feel really awkward with it all. Or maybe I'll just feel awkward until I've done it a few times?
Maya hasn't been putting on enough weight.. I think because I was terribly ill for the first couple of days of her life which meant that my milk took longer to come in. So I've been told I have to wake her and feed her. And it's getting really frustrating because it often takes me ages to get her to sleep and then once she's sleeping I have to wake her for a feed. :( During the day I feed every 2 to 3 hours. And at night I've been told I can let her sleep longer (up to 5 hours). Normally she has been waking after 3 or 4 hours sleep at night. But last night my DH woke me up because it had been 5 hours and she hadn't woken. I bit his head off because even though 5 hours was bliss and more sleep I've had in ages.. I just wanted to stay sleeping!! Then I felt guilty, so I got up and woke her for her feed and it took me a while to get her to go back to sleep. I just wish I could feed on demand!
itsme~~ I can understand the pain of feeding every 3 hours, Bethany was still pretty jaundice when we came home and the visiting midwife had us feed her every 3 hours and 75mls (which was a good 15mls more than she had been having) it was 2 days of hell! She hated it we hated it. thankfully she put on weight and the midwife signed her out of the home care program and we were about to go back to demand feeding.
Stick with it but remember noone knows your baby like you.
Good morning everyone
amy - welcome to BB - my fella was pretty jaundice too and we had to keep an eye on him cos I went home within 24 hours - he still has a bit of yellow in his eyes - breastmilk jaundice they call it apparently - but yeah a bit stressful making sure they feed regularly etc.
Itsme - re b/f in public - if uncomfortable I just used a muslin wrap to drape over my shoulder and it covers my side and his head - I don't like flashing my post-3-babies roll I have at the moment when I sit down ...... next week onto healthy eating plan again and losing the excess kgs. :rolleyes:
Georgi - sounds like Byron is doing really well too - I can't believe you have that much EBM in your freezer! :lol: Hope the inlaws are being a great help ;)
Tanstar - how is James going? Did he lose much weight to start with? If found with DS1 cos he was a bit bigger (but not that big LOL) that he didn't lose much weight at all - he actually put on 30g in the first week . :redface:
Ugh - crying Z - more later :)
Just a quick reply to Itsme's question about public breastfeeding as Loralei has just stirred again. I had a friend who always wore a singlet underneath all her tops and would pull the top of the singlet down for feeding. I recommend this as a way to discretely feed bub as I took it on as my solution to the same problem when I go out. You don't have your tummy exposed and the boob is still covered too because you have 2 tops on. I know it can be a little hot in summer time though and this is where the thin wraps come into play as a shield for flashing in public instead of two layers of clothing. HTH in some way?
Oh my god, Jude kept me awake all night long. He just wants to eat, cry and not sleep. :(
Hi Amy and welcome.
I was going to respond to personals but lost my post and am like a zombie. Hope everyone is having fun with their newborns, I think they're a lot of work and I can't wait until Jude is older.
hey girls!!!
i am coming in here it just taking time and im still lurking in the due date thread waiting for some girls to have their bubs. The updated list is on page 1.
not much to say here.. Mia decided at about 4am this morning to throw up everywhere.. like EVERYWHERE! it was a fountain. I felt so sorry for her. So DP was up at 4 changing all the bedding and i was changing her and me ( as i was holding her at the time :S) Im not sure why she did it but she seems to feel better because of it. Afteer i rocked her to sleep at 5 she woke about 6:30 and drained my left side completley (very proud) and fell back asleep till 11:30am!! so with that extra sleep i feel pretty good
Heading out to mums today to spend some time with her before she goes back to work. Dont really feel up to it but ill go anyway.
talk soon xoxoxo
Hey Hollye - was Mia a bit mucus-y in her chest? Sometimes it takes a time to come out - especially if c-sec cos it doesn't get squeezed out with their entrance into the world .... having said that Giselle my DD was vaginal birth and had lots of mucus on her chest - it took about 2 weeks for her to get all the gunk off her chest and yep she felt much better for it!!
I know the first 2 months are hard and we wish the baby days away - I am trying so hard not to cos I know Zander is our last baby ..... but bring on dropping an overnight feed I say :clap:
HOllye - Ethan did the other end at us the other week. It seriously squirted yellow 2-3 feet!! at me, all over the bed and on the carpet! it was sooo groose!
Well we have been sleeping DS on his belly the last few times and he settles really quickly.
Over night is still anight mare though. Last night feeds were at 730,1130,1am,3a,5am 630am!
Clustering still overnight and 3-4 hrly during the day ! it is driving me nuts!
We had a bit of an adventrue last night!! Our first hospital trip. All day yesterday Bethany had really bad runny poop and so much atleast 8 nappies worth in about 10 hours, that is unusal for her, toward the end of the day she started to get really lethargic and stopped wanting to feed. Alarm bells rang and I called the baby health line they suggested taking her up to the hospital to be checked out. Thankfully everything was fine, probably just a passing bug but with the heat and humidity it could have got bad fast. I am glad I was over cautious. But we were home late and mummy and daddy were starving!! She had a good night though and seems back to her perky little self today. But while we are at mothers group this morning I'll have the baby health nurse check her over again just to reaasure me! The helpline where pretty good too, I thought they would just palm me off to the dr's this morning or do the standard "if you are worried go to the hospital" but they took the time to really listen to what was happening and gave me the options. I was impressed, I'll feel good about calling them again :)
Well the bottles need attention and then it is off to mum's group...
have a great day ladies and babies!!
MOrning All,
Tan - I hope you are feeling better, and those feelings are gone completely. I do know what you mean tho, as this was the first time that I didnt get to experience labour. I have to wonder if Olivia would have been better off waiting until I went into labour, yet then again I also wonder if she didnt come out when she did would her weight have been less. I also keep thinking back to when I first found out I was UTD with her and how everyone was so negative IRL about me expecting again. Like it was any of there business anyway, yet you would have thought they would have been happy for us. I keep wondering if it was all the negative vibes that gave me such a stressful pgcy and poor Olivia was the one struggling. It used to be everytime someone visited, now there wont be anymore after this one will there? blah blah blah. I used to think why should I have to explain myself to everyone, because I wanted another one. Noone really understood all the worries this time either, yet everything everyone had said has stuck in my mind. I keep thinking now that she is here and how everyone is so inlove with her now, and I cant help but think how hipercritical they are. Why couldnt they just have been happy from the start, not just as soon as she was born? I really dont think they realised how they made me feel this whole time. I think tho it is still all the worry atm that I am feeling like this, I so hope it passes soon. You hang in there too. I hope your c/s pain gets better soon, I am still sore as well and have a stupid headache that doesnt seem to want to leave. Not sure if it is hormonal or not tho. hugs
Amanda - I have to ask if anyone questioned you about having No.5? I am glad Julian is doing so well, and sleeping so well. Olivia is only up once a night as well. She is such a wonderful sleeper too and has been since she was born, she is also very relaxed. Very similar to all my others. hugs
Amy - Welcome. So glad your little one is feeling better now. hugs
Kuraiza - Hi hun, maybe your little Jude has reflux, it wouldnt hurt to ask your Dr next time. My first DS1 was so terrible. Every feed he would projectile vomit everything he ate, yet he kept putting on weight. It is really good that Jude is still putting on weight, yet he would sleep so soundly and all night at that. My DD4 had silent reflux, her tummy always sounded like she was hungry, it was always grumbling and she always felt as tho she was never full, even tho she slept fine once on anti reflux formula. I am wondering now with Olivia if she has silent reflux now too, as her tummy does the same thing, however she sleeps soooooo well. I hope the BF gets easier for you hun, Olivia expected the milk to drop in her mouth, she didnt want to work for it at the beginning, yet once she knew what to do, she was hooked. :lol: hugs
Itsme - Olivia uses me for comfort as well, and so she can sleep. She will continuously feed for most of the evening/night upto around 9.30-10.30pm on and off. She builds up her food stores for her sleep at night. She just loves her sleep. :D Once Olivia is asleep she is so hard to wake, such a sound sleeper. Last night she slept for 6 1/2 hours. I am expecting that as she gets older her sleeping will be all night. Hang in there hun it gets easier. How much has Maya put on? Has she gone past her birth weight yet? Olivia still hasnt gone past her birth weight yet, so the pediatrician is keeping a close eye on her, as we may end up having to do her heart u/s earlier than January if she doesnt get there soon. All of my babies had jaundice even Olivia, and you know I overheard one of the midwives mentioning to another patient that women with O Positive blood group will have babies with jaundice. That is what I am. hugs
Georgi - Byron is doing so well, what a cutie he is. Glad you had a wonderful time away at Lennox Head. I hope Byron is behaving for his wonderful mummy. Woohoo on your first all upthe back poo experience. hehehe hugs
Sami - I am so glad you have joined us. hugs How is everything?
Georgi, PP, Itsme - I am sending lots of hugs your way girls, I hope your bubbas settle soon for you all.
Hollye - So glad your coming in here. Sorry to herar about Mia's throwing up episode.
hugs
PP - Had to :lol: about the poo. Olivia one day at the hospital, while I was changing her bottom farted and a spit of poo squirted at my face. Thankgoodness my mouth wasnt opened. hehehe Hope you feel better soon. hugs
Well had Olivia's pediatrician appt on Friday and her kidney u/s on Thursday. All went sooo well. The only thing the Dr atm wants to keep an eye on over the next few weeks is her weight gain. Olivia's birth weight was 2380gm, she dropped down to 2250gm, then dropped down again last week Monday to 2140gm, then Friday on the Dr's scale she had gained 10gm to 2150gm. He wants to use his scale as everyones scale can be different. Her h/c was 34cm the same as her birth. Anyway as the midwife is coming again soon as she wants to keep an eye on both Olivia and I, she will re weigh again today. Will let you know how that goes.
Well heres the update:
The midwife came and reweighed Olivia today and she is now 2170gm, so she has put on 30gm since last Monday. If Olivia doesnt gain enough weight that the pediatrician would like, then he is going to arrange for her heart u/s to be done earlier than January. I should have mentioned that her kidneys are normal so that was such great news to my ears.
Thanks Cheryl - :hug: I haven't given myself time to debrief just yet but I will need to get it all out at some stage....Good luck with the weigh in today.
Amy - You poor thing - what a fright you must have had but I am glad Bethany is ok. Like you said better safe than sorry when you aren't sure and I love Nurse On Call - they have been fab any time I have had to call them.
PP- Hang in there hun - it is tough but hopefully these little ones will give us a break soon.
Kuraiza - :hug: I hope Jude has given you a bit more rest over the last few nights.
Sami - I am trying to be aware of that too seeing as we will be stopping now.... but yep - 2 overnight feeds would be better! ;)
Hollye - Ugh at the puke all over everything - I was changing James at 3 am last night and I wasn't really awake and didn't have the light on enough and I ended up spilling half of his very runny poop all over a gorgeous WHITE wrap that I left under him instead of using the cloth nappy. Not happy.
Curl - I do exactly that with public feeding. I have really thin shoestring strappy singlets that I wear under everything - a bit warm in summer but not overly bad and then everything stays covered! :)
Can't go back much further - sorry ladies - :hug: to everyone I have missed.
Had our 2 week check today and since Friday week ago, James has put on a whopping 430grams!!!!!!He is now 4780grams. I can't believe it - part of the reason is that I have loads of milk that comes out at super fast speed, so on the bad side we get the built up wind, vomit and tummy aches too. Going to try feeding lying down a bit to slow it all down for the not so little guy. He slept for nearly 7 hours in the bouncer last night so today we went and got a hammock from Hire for Baby - he has just fallen asleep in it so will see if it helps settle him. I really think the reason he wakes so frequently is because he is flat on his back and the wind hurts him.
Right - off to read emails while I can! Chat soon lovelies!!
hey girls..
i think we are all popped in the october thread yay! so ill be in here more often.
This BFing thing is really getting me down :( she falls asleep all the time.. wont latch on and i dont seem to satisfy her very much. My supply still too low? I have stopped topping her up with formula (didnt have a choice) and im not expressing much anymore as i was only getting about 65mls out anyway which just doesnt do it for her. I dont know what to do.. formula is looking real good right now..
bbs xoxoox
Hi all, just toddling over from the October bellys group will be in and out for a while as we settle in with our little man but looking forwards to meeting and chatting with you all
Allie, Paige and Angus xxxxxxx
Hollye: I get vomitted on like that every other day or so. Right down my back, all over the bed or floor. Yum! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one sleeping in til 11am (if I have the chance). Hey, 65mLs is good! I struggle to express anything like that. I was thrilled the other night at 2am when I expressed 65mLs. For some reason my boob was engorged at 2am and since Jude was keeping me awake anyway, I took advantage of it. However, I don't do that every night that's for sure. If you're worried about your milk supply, keep expressing. Mia is still very young so 65mLs is all she probably needs, so that's what your boobs are producing.
SamiH, PinkPalace: I've read that once baby reaches 5kgs the overnight feeds can stop. With Jude being 4 weeks and not yet 3kgs, I'm not expecting to sleep for a looooooong time.
Amy: Ugh, that hospital trip sounds scary. Sorry to hear about that. I was wondering if Jude was sick the other day when he kept me up all night so I went and bought a thermometer, but he rested after 1pm and everything is back to relatively normal (for him, not me).
Csab: I'll ask the doc about reflux. I mentioned it to the nurse when I took him for a weigh last week and she didn't seem too worried as long as he continues to gain weight. I'm thinking of going back tomorrow for another weigh, as long as I can get out of the house in time. I think Jude attaches well, but he drinks heartily for about 5 minutes then gets sleepy. However, I also read that babies drink 80% of their feed in the first 5 minutes, so I guess it's normal. Olivia is a tiny tot, isn't she? She must feel so fragile in your arms. And I thought Jude was small. Keep up the good work with her, you're doing a great job!
Tanstar: Do you think James could have a chat to Jude about growing up big and strong? Just what do you keep in those breasts of yours?? :P
Blizz: Hello!
Me: Ok so I had an ultrasound on my boob lump and I haven't got the results, but the sonographer said she couldn't see any lumps, just normal breast tissue. So that was music to my ears.
BUT I have had a killer earache for 3 days and last night the pain in my throat was agony so I dropped in to the GP today without an appointment, told them I was in agony and saw a doctor within 2 minutes (I think I'll use this technique from now on). Turns out I have an inflammed corotid artery which is causing all the pain. Wow! Wasn't expecting that! The treatment is simply aspirin, however as I'm breastfeeding I can't indulge in the treatment. I can have enough aspirin to prevent any blood clots forming (100mgs a day) but I'll have to endure the pain (although panadol helps a little).
Ok I have now officially suffered enough medical conditions to fill the pages of Greys Anatomy!
kuraiza - re reaching 5kg - I hadn't heard that before - Zander was 4.8kg a week ago so fingers crossed we're looking up! He can chat to Jude too - that means he has put on 1.125kg since birth when weighed at 4w4d :o wow, he gets weighed this Friday for 6 week check so hopefully he has cracked 5kg :)
Blizz - hi and congrats and welcome - look forward to chatting with you
Hollye - 65mls if that is what Mia takes that sounds good! My MCHN gave me the calculation of 150ml per 1kg of weight divided by amount of feeds they have a day. So, if Mia is say 3.5kg and on 8 feeds a day - she would need approx 65mls per feed - so sounds pretty good to me. Yeah b/f can be a hard gig, specially first time round - but even this time I have had some trouble but fingers crossed I am back on track and hope you and Mia's b/f relationship grows too :)
csab - glad everything for little Olivia is coming up trumps. You've certainly go tyour hands full at the moment with all the extra appts etc, let alone having a newborn and a family already! Well done to you :clap:
Tan - yeah here's to less night feeds already - my hubby was away 2 nights last week and between my DS who goes to bed early and gets up early, my DD who's body clock is the other way going to bed at 8pm and getting up later than DS, and overnight feeding, I was probably a danger on the road doing the school run :doh: However the last 2 nights Zander has fed at 7pm and woke at 2am :o - wish he would wake again at 10.30 and then have the 7 hour stint until 5.30!!! Hard for me to sleep before 9pm even if I am dog tired - gotta see DH sometime :rolleyes:
Did I catch everyone? Gosh if not I am so sorry, will catch up tomorrow :p
kur - ethan is only 3.7 so a long way off 5kg! lol
Hollye - try changing her nappy so she is woken a little. Unfortunately Bf does make both bub and mum sleepy! (obviously ethan didnt get this memo for night time!!!). The best thing to do it express after each feed esp on the breast you just fed on .. it tells your body that it needs to make more as bub is still drinking iykwim!!) try this for a few days and you will find your supply will increase.
I can only get about 60 ml on an express to. I find i have to do it a couple of times to get a decent feed for ethan. Also when you give EBM in the bottle express at that time too so you body realises it needs to produce milk for a feed at that time otherwise if you skip a BF and give bottle without expressing your body will think bub doesnt need the milk and wont produce more!
hope that wasnt confusing!! :
*hugs *
thanks for the advice girls, its great to know im not alone. i topped her up from her last feed with formula as she was screaming at me for about 4 hours. She still took 70 mls of formula! :( wtf!!
i can hear her again.
talk tomorrow xox
Oh gosh..There's so much for me to catch up on. As I am reading all of your posts I am making comments in my head but don't think I can get them all down. I'm too far behind.
KURAIZA I have my in laws here at the moment too, it's just extra work for me. All the cooking & shopping. I think my MIL doesn't want to interfere so theres very little help coming my way. I'm not one to ask either. It's nice seeing them, but I'm already looking forward to their departure. I want my peace & quiet!
ITSME I'm still not confortable bfeeding in public. I hope it gets easier
AMY Welcome & congrats on your little girl
SAMI My in laws haven't helped at all. I think my MIL doesn't want to get in the way. She never interferes in anything so she just stands back. I wish she'd do the cooking though. I thought she would but am surprised at how she hasn't got involved
HOLLYE Byron did that one night too. I had to change his linen twice cause he threw up on it twice in the one night. I went out the next day & bought more matress protectors. Hang in there with the Bfeeding. It's bloody hard but I'm sure your persistance will pay off xx
PP That night feeding must be driving you insane. You poor thing.
CSAB I'm so glad Olivia's u/s came back all clear. Glad she's put on some weight too. The nurse who came to my house after Byron was born said she is happy to see any type of weight gain xx
TAN I have the same prob as you. My letdown is really good. Most times Byron only takes 10 mins for a feed. He still puts on nearly 300g every week so the paed is happy with that. He always gets bad wind cause of it too. I have to be really careful about allowing him the time to digest his feeds & not bouncing him or changing his nappy straight away. I put him in the rocker for at least 20 mins after his feeds (except for his night ones. I hold him upright for 20 mins). I also give him Infacol occaisionally if his wind is real bad
Byron has finally settled down after a week of crying & minimal sleep. I have inflicted a strict routine on him and that has done the trick. My beautiful baby is back again. He had his 8wk shots last Monday & I wonder if that was a big factor. I'm enjoying the routine - feed, play, sleep. It's a better household for it.
He sleeps really good overnight. He'll wake around 2am for a feed & falls straight back to sleep, then he wakes around 5 or 6 & I cuddle him, in bed, back to sleep till around 7. This works most mornings anyway. I can't complain about my nights at all.
We're off to get another weigh in tomorrow. I love seeing how much weight he puts on each week. It's weird!
Oh really? Because that's what Jude does too and yet I can't seem to manage more than 4 hours a sleep every night. But you know what, I'm one of those light sleepers who rests more than sleeps so I actually NEED about 9 hours of "sleep" a night to function. My neighbour next door seems to get by just fine on 6 hours of sleep (I can hear him going to bed and waking up) so he should be looking after Jude at night.:
He'll wake around 2am for a feed & falls straight back to sleep, then he wakes around 5 or 6 & I cuddle him, in bed, back to sleep till around 7. This works most mornings anyway. I can't complain about my nights at all.
PS. My husband took Jude to get weighed today, hoping I could sleep but I got hungry and had to get up. Anyway, he just called to tell me my hard work is paying off because Jude is over 3kgs today. Woo Hoo!
Hi girls!
I have been lent a angelcare monitor for ethan yayayay !!!! So he is asleep on his belly as we speak.
Last night i just coslept with him. i couldnt bare the screaming all night. So at 830 he layed next to me and fed at 11,1,4, 630. Which is a vast improvement i tell you!! he only had one unsettle time about 3-4am when he wouldnt settle.
I am looking forward to seeing if him belly sleeping tonight makes a difference. Would love more than 2 hrs of sleep in a row!
Kur - great news on over 3kg!! i remember with Ashley is was exciting as she was only 2.6kg born too! Ethan put on almost 450gm in the first 2 weeks so no probs here with weigh gain lol
Well i am being creative and cooking while my nappies are washing, DD is watching playschool, DS asleep... really want a cuppa tea but mmm not sure if i should... i heard tea can upset bubs belly???
Georgie! how is your little man? I am craving a day on the beach.. want fish and chips at the spit.. so ashley can play with the puppies at the off leash beach. one day when i make the effort to go down on my own we should meet up if you like?
Hollye hun! *hugs* .. i am aiming to get 1/2 hr to chat on msn with you :_)
HOllye - Yay for the monitor hun! That is awesome news! Have you also considered a hammock? We just got one yesterday for our chucky straining/groaning little guy and it has been great - he is much more comfortable and is sleeping for up to 3 hours now instead of only 1-2 hours. You can hire them at Hire for Baby if you are interested!
We are doing well - Melbourne Cup today, so DH went to the TAB and placed bets on all the races so we will sit in front of the TV all day I think! Izzy has been throwing up all morning so it will definitely be a quiet one for us!
Chat soon lovelies- feed time!
KURAIZA I find I need to go to bed at 8.30pm in order to get 6 hours sleep. I would total 4 - 6 hours each night. I try to nap during the day. I only got 30mins today. But I'm coping much better than what I thought I would. I seem to be handling the lack of sleep really well.
PP Yay for the angel care. I hope it's working a treat for you. Geez Ethan feeds alot. Did your other kids do that? Does he feed for long? I would love to catch up with you for fish & chips one day. Just not a Tuesday cause I go to the clinic. You've got my mobile number hey?
TAN I hope Izzy is ok. How'd you go at Melbourne Cup?
Byron got weighed in again today. He has put on 270grams. He now weighs 4.7kg. He was really unsettled all morning. Thankfully he went down to sleep at 12.30, woke at 3.30 for a feed, then went back to sleep at 4.30 & is still sleeping. Poor thing. He must be so tired.
Off to cook dinner...
Amy - What a scare with the hospital trip! Good to hear that Bethany is OK. Oh and Maya was also jaundiced while we were still in hospital. It made her very sleepy and she didn't feed very well. Now the jaundice is gone, but she still falls asleep on my boob and doesn't feed well I think. I am constantly tickling her to keep her awake, so that she will feed for longer. Otherwise she just wakes up straight after a feed and wants more food.
curl - Thanks for the suggestions re using singlets to help with breast feeding in public. Now I just need to find a way to get to the shops so that I can buy some singlets.
csab - Unfortunately Maya lost a lot of weight (more than 10%!). The paediatrician wasn't worried about her though cos she started at a very good weight (4.01kgs) and she has remained chubby. She was weighed last week at 2 weeks and she was still under her birth weight (she was around 3.85 kgs). So I was told to stick with the feeding routine for now. The hard part is that she is always falling asleep on my boob.. so I never know if she's getting enough food. I'm really hoping at her next weight next Wednesday she'll have finally passed her birth weight!! I hope that Olivia starts stacking on some weight too!
kuraiza - I hope you are feeling better soon. And I understand what you are going through with sleep! I'm the same as you.. a light sleeper.. and it takes me ages to fall asleep after putting Maya to bed! :( I worked out I am probably getting around 7 to 8 hours sleep which is enough for most people. But I really need around 8 to 9 hours of unbroken sleep!
Welcome Blizz!
PP - I've tried expressing and if I do it straight after a feed nothing comes out. The most I've ever gotten out is about 20mls! I was hoping to express enough so that my DH could try a feed.. but if I can only get out 20mls at a time it'll take me forever to store up enough!
Hollye - Have you talked to a lactation consultant? They'll have some ideas to help you. How often are you BF? You might find that you need to BF every two to three hours for a few days to increase your supply.
OK... that's all the personals I can manage now. Sorry to anyone I've missed!!
Well yesterday was my first day on my own. My DH went back to work. It's definitely harder without someone around to help all the time. But I know I need to learn to take care of Maya on my own during the day.
Oh and I decided to try feeding Maya more on demand and see how often she feeds. And I reckon she actually fed a bit better that way because she was awake and ready to feed.. rather than me waking her and having her fall back asleep on my breast! She still did fall asleep though, but later than she does if I wake her. I still had to wake her once yesterday, otherwise she wouldn't have had enough feeds during the day, but I might try sticking to mostly feeding her on demand and see how that goes. I just hope she will have finally reached her birth weight again at the next feed!
Itsme. First day with DH back at work is hard isnt it. DH only got 1.5 weeks off this time (none with DD! lol)... sometimes i think i am seriously going to go insane - especially when both kids are screaming!
Georgi... i think i stil have your mobile. PM me just in case! DD fed 2nd hourly until 4months so yes a killer! DS feeds more at a time though than she did. He will take both breasts most of the time.
We have him down now for our first night on our belly. I am hoping he sleeps better. I guess we will see. :)
Itsme: At the moment I'd kill for 7 hours of sleep. :( Jude makes ghastly noises in the morning that wake me up. So I think I'm going to move him to his bassinet in his bedroom after the middle-o-the-night feed. He's going to have to wake up properly and cry for his feed if he wants to eat at 5am!
I was told in hospital that I had a "sleepy baby" and I had to wake Jude up to feed him (just one of the many dumb things the stupid night nurses poisoned my mind with), so for the first 2 weeks I was a basket case of nerves setting my alarm and waking Jude up which was the wrong thing to do, because I ended up feeding him less than I do now. I was like you, at one point I decided to stop the alarm and see what happened and wow, Jude did not choose to starve. Yesterday Jude demanded to be fed 9 times! Holy crow! At one point during the day I was feeding him every 1.5 hours, which meant I had about half an hour of downtime between feeds. Ugh! I hope that was a growth spurt, and a short-lived one!
Georgi: Please share your evening routine with me, because I try to go to bed early but it always ends up about 11pm before I can manage to climb into bed (after eating dinner, showering, feeding Jude, settling Jude etc).
PP: How on earth are you managing with all that feeding? I really hope it doesn't last long for you. That sounds really awful. :hug: I'm hoping Jude doesn't do a repeat performance of yesterday, but at least he slept decently at night.
Tanstar: Did you win?
Kur - tell me about it! id kill for 3 hrs sleep! lol
DD and DS both were up at 5am today. And i had DS screaming until 15 minutes ago - which makes DD scream and want to climb on me. I got to the point that i had to go into another room and close the door on her to get her to leave me alone for 5 minutes so i could settle DS or else no one would get any peace (vicious cycle of crying!!! - one sets the other off and so on!).
Well last night was 3 hrly feeds and we co slept.
NOw i have had my 5 minutes and i have to clean everything that DD has destroyed while i was ignoring her!
byes
Arrgghhh we have a sick poppet here - Izzy has been throwing up all day yesterday and all night, and James wanted 2 hourly feeds over night since 3 (of course he did!) so we are all a bit weary today. Izzy has kept her brekky down but still has a fever poor poppet. Didn't win on the races either - DH seemed to pick all the donkeys! :p
Hope you are all well - reading but no time for personals right now. :hug:
hey girls.
had a fantastic day yesterday, Mia fed so well and was so well behaved. It was heaven. Tho... this morning im paying for it :wall: Just got her off to sleep and she has been feeding on and off for the past 2 hours. Im trying tactics atm to keep her awake for BFing and sitting her up and burping her seems to be doing the job atm.
Oh she has her first photo shoot today!! man i hope she is well behaved. I went and brought her this gorgeous outfit but im worried she wont be able to wear it coz its overcast here and doesnt seem to warm and the outfit is a spring one.. hmmm
i see u all talking about sleep.. hmmm whats that? something you eat? *sigh* lol
tan - i hope izzy gets better real soon and give james big kisses for me :) mwah!
PP- You are doing a GREAT job with ur 2 little ones. Keep up the good work sweety, i so would have cracked by now and been sent to the mental farm on top of the hill. Give urself some credit hun, u are a FANTASTIC mummy! give them kisses for me :) btw if u stay put we might be moving up your way sooner than i thought.. this place here is driving me nuts!
kuraiza - yeh i was told i have a sleepy baby too in hospital.. pfft to that!! i was also told to wake her up for feeds and i agree BAD IDEA! she wakes when shes hungry sometimes it can be in 5 hours sometimes it can be in 1 hour. She also makes some really odd noises and alot in her sleep and i was making the mistake of getting her up coz i thought she was awake etc but she wasnt, shes just a weird noise making bub. She has begun grunting real bad and some of the noises shes makes i ahve to remind her that its not very lady like! lol ur boy is gorgeous hun, keep up the good work!
oh btw Mia has another check up today.. her last weigh was last friday and she was 3580 grams (3520 born), so im interested to see what she has put on. Fingers crossed. so the photo thing is at 2pm and the appointment is at 4pm so even tho it doesnt seem like much its a busy day for us.
mwah to everyone else! xoxoxoxo