Babies Born September 2007 #11

jaz- i am a little nervous actually!! have just been thinking through what i might talk about...i'm thinking breastfeeding, sleeping, going out with bubs etc.
i agree with you about the clothes thing. i buy all these cute little shorts and pants etc. but i usually always end up using either bonds or pumpkin patch jumpsuits. they're just more practical and easier to change nappies in. i hate when tops ride up his back too, it's so annoying!!

i can't stop eating chocolate. what is wrong with me???

Oh Jazmum just wanted to say your ticker pic is adorable. Your girls are beautiful.

OMG JaZmum! your ticker has got me in tears!!!! Its just beautiful :) You have a beautiful family

Just had a family friend knock on our door and drag me out to the car LOL! There was a outdoor play set with little slide, stairs etc for sale around the corner from me for $80, apparently it was worth $200+. We had to beat of a lady from a 2nd hand shop with a stick almost haha. My friend went half as she wanted to get Rory a gift so we only ended up paying $40! Whoohoo! She said you can add on more parts too.

I had 3 parcels delivered today, im so naughty teehee

thanks Katie and Renee :) I took soooo many photos - couldn't get one of Hannah smiling though. I've got to pick up the prints from Harvey Norman tomorrow, and then send them out with the Christmas cards. I've sent a photo each Christmas since Jess was born, and many people have told me they look forward to seeing the photo.
Renee - we have one of those playsets - Santa gave it to the girls when Jess was 20 months. they still climb all over it now -so i'd say $40 is money well spent!!

Jazmum - they are gorgeous!! Katie stops smiling the moment the camera comes out, have to be really quick to catch one.

Renee - well done on the playset, that will be heaps of fun when Rory is a bit bigger.

Gracie - I haven't been eating that well lately either. Keep having chocolate cravings. Good luck speaking at the class tonight. We had someone come in and do a breastfeeding demo - she squirted DH from a couple of metres away!

K has outfits that are just for home and others that are for going out. The ones that are really hard to put on don't get used that often though. I've tried to dress her in anything that were presents from people when they see her.

MD - good luck with the inlaws!

Arte - K puked down my cleavage a few weeks ago and then gave me one of the biggest grins she had done so far, so cute.

Renee well done on the payset. I love getting parcels, I got one today and am expecting another tomorrow.

Gracie, GL tonight. I cant stop eating chocolate either and have been really bad lately, I am glad I am not alone. Are you BF? Maybe our bodies are needing the smooth chocolate for feeding (I am looking for justification lol).

Jazmum I might run into you and your girls when your in Surfers, I live just outside Surfers and we go in there for a swim quite often.

Arte I have had the clevage spew too, only it wasnt my child so it was even worse! PMSL at your DH, mine does it too- must be a male thing lol.

Hayley I love all the little girls clothes and get envious of the ladies in the babies department buying all the pretty pink things and cute little headbands.

MD How come the inlaws are so early? That would annoy me (I am such a planner though). Hopefully its not to stressful for you.

Noni well doen on the powder, it sounds divine. How did you go getting the windscreen fixed?

Leanne bummer about the speeding ticket, last thing you need at Christmas is more bills.

Sherie Logan loves the shower, we have hardly used his bath. He looks so cute in your ticker pic.

Not alot going on here today. Logan had a big sleep on the lounge this afternoon so I sat back and watched about 5 episodes of Gossip Girls and ate way to much chocolate. Thankfully there isnt much planned this week.

Katie - we actually stay on Chevron Island - right on the river looking at Surfers.

Jazmum- I love your girls they are beautiful. Wow holiday at Surfers I am jealous. I hope you have a wonderful time.
Renee- We too have one of those play sets for the boys they love it. About the speeding fine, no I did not realise it was there stupid me for not looking.
MD- Bummer on the inlaws. As you all know my MIL's main mode of transport is a broom stick ...lol...

Well mumma time was great. I got some house work done that I had wanted to do as I dont seem to get stuff done when they are all awake. lol...
Christmas shopping- I wish I was more organised like most of you mummys. I still have heaps to do.
Well I am off to bed. Good night all and sweet dreams...

my baby will not go to sleep and stay asleep! oh boy. it shouldn't matter that i'm still at my husband's work with T. LOL. its like she knows she isn't at home.

she is now in crawler nappies too! lol and said 'mum ' today. i think it was a mistake lol

lol Asha is going through that sleeping all the time thing that i have told everyone not to worry about haha and guess what i cant help but worry
supab - Ash sounds like shes saying mum when she cries sometimes... good to see you on its been a while...
leanne - glad u enjoyed your mummy time
jazmum- i agree beautiful girls!!!! lucky you going to surfers
katie - yeah 225 later though that ended up being half the price obrien were gonna charge me lol actually less than half and they were really nice too

Morning everyone :) ~

I have an instant family on the way, My brother's 2 girls from his first relationship are coming from Sydney to live with us next week - Thier mother can't look after them anymore because of reasons i wont get into.

My brother & i had a D&M last night about how he and my SIL can't handle them on top of the 4 girls they have now, they're not in the financial position to take them, they have some really bad behavioural and emotional issues and they both have hearing problems so they need alot of attention, My brother works really long hours and SIL totally freaks out at how badly they behave but we agreed anytime DF and i need a break they would take them for a while. Pretty scary! but we all think it's probably best for them.

I'm going to be shopping like crazy getting rooms set up for them and all the chrissie stuff.


BIL comes to stay for 3 months in Jan too so we're going to be a very busy household! ~ Wow anyone else need a foster parent for a while? I'm on a roll.

Scarlet is giggling like crazy at everything now - it's so funny, she cracks me up and then gives me funny looks because i'm laughing so much... This routine has definately stuck! I'm getting loads of sleep and loving it - I can't believe i tried so hard to get her into a routine then when i gave up she made her own.

I have to go back and read through again - I've forgotten what else i wanted to say. lol.

Wow Haley, that is a lot to take on. How old are the girls? I hope they settle in quickly for you. Sounds like you are going to have one very busy house soon.

lp- i think you are just amazing...

The girls are 11 and 9... It is alot to take on but it should be fine... they've stayed with us for long periods of time before and we managed them pretty well but they are very very *naughty* kids & they're used to corporal punishment so it's hard to find alternative ways to disipline them that are actually effective... I think most of the behaviour issues stem from the hearing problems, So i'm going to get that sorted first... can you believe the youngest tested 70% deaf and has never been taken to a hearing specialist!?!. I can't wait to get them to be honest, They deserve alot more then they have now and pretty soon it will probably be too late to help them grow up right.

Wow gracie, how exciting for you guys being able to give advice to all the new mum's & dad's - I hope it went well. I'm eating way too much junk food too, I only had my last 5kgs to go, it just wasn't budging so i gave up... I had apple crumble for breakfast yesterday lol.

Renee ~ sounds like you got a mad bargain on the playset... aw, it's going to be so cute when all our bubs are running around the backyard.

JaZMum ~ Your ticker pic is SO beautiful! I'm with you on the comfy clothes, i hate when the straps on the capsule are rubbing on Scarlet's shoulders so when we go out now she's usually just in a summer jumpsuit.

Don't worry Leemar, I'm no where near done for chrissie yet either. We'll get there!

Art ~ I can't believe they forgot to do up your wheels!!! That's so bad, Did you get anywhere with them? I hope you charge them for the repairs! Lmao @ your DH's nursery rhymes.

Cally ~ Did you enjoy baby massage?.. Is it worth learning?

LOL MD goodluck with your inlaws! I hear you on not being able to fit bub in the bath... or the carseat... or on the change table... well, not quite that bad but it's becoming a tight squeeze!!! I think we have a tribe of ballet dancers, supermodels and basketball stars on the way.

*hehe* Hayley, i thought like your SIL while i was PG... bet ya $10 she changes her mind after a week! ARGH! Scarlets wardrobe is overflowing with nanna dresses too! I don't think she has worn any of them yet.

Hayley- You are a wonderful Aunty.

Last night Olivia was unsettled and ended up giving her a bottle about 4am. I am so tired today.
I am so looking forward to the Christmas break. We stop work on Thursday the 20th for 2 weeks so we are having our christmas party that day and the boys also have their xmas party for Day Care on the same day but in the arvo. Mine is at lunch time thank god so I wont have any problems going to both.

I hope everyone has a wonderful day

LP you sound like a trully amazing person, I hope everything works out for you. Good on you and your DH for helping out.

Gracie how did you go last night?

Supa sometimes it sound like Logan says mum when he is upset. I cant wait until he is saying it for real.

Logand I are going to have a nice day at home today, no plans at all. Might do some baking for DH.

Hey LP- I bet thats why they are so naughty. Poor girls carnt hear. My DH has been deaf for the last 2 1/2 years due to inner ear damage. He now wears a hearing aid in 1 ear and need another in the other ear. He use to get very frustrated because he was not hearing people like he use to but now with the hearing aid he is a lot happier

Scarlet is having a sleep in today, it's raining... does anyone else's bub sleep better when it's raining?

I think it is Leemar - I have been telling my brother's ex for years 'They're not ignoring you, they can't HEAR you'... but they get smacked anyway and then cry thier little eyes out because they don't know what they've done wrong.

oh LP - those poor little girls!! Lucky they have someone special like you in their lives who will give them all the love they need and deserve. I hope everything goes as smoothly as possible for you all.
Hi to everyone else, hope you all have a great day :)

Arghhhh I got a phone call at 2:00am this morning which I didnt answer. Curiosity got the better of me so I called the number back, it was man on the other end and he told me he had our DOGS! He had them tied up out the front because they were trying to get into their backyard to play with their dogs. Turns out our garage door was up (dont know how that happened)
I had heard our neighbours baby crying earlier because they had their windows open, so I knew they were awake. I called them and asked them to come around while I ran up the next street to get Boof & Bundy. When I got there half of the street were out with our dogs! THey must of been barking. I could of died haha.
Im so tired now :( Okay ive had my whinge im going to read all the other posts now

Oh crumbs sorry I should of read the posts BEFORE i posted!!!!!! LP WOW you are truly amazing! You are doing such a wonderful thing for those girls and your brother & SIL. Im sure they will blossom with all the love & attention they will get living with you!

hi everyone! been reading and not posting again....hard to type when you've got a bottle in the typing hand. lol
just dropped in to say that i'm mighty impressed w/ what you're taking on lp. and those girls are lucky to have you. seems like this might be the best christmas gift santa could've given them.

WOAH!!! I was just putting together a list of things i need for chrissie because we're having it here this year and i just counted out the kids that are going to be here and i'm starting to feel very overwhelemed...

Nieces; 12,11,9,8,7,5,3 and 1 yr(s)
BIL; 13 yrs
Cousins; 15,14,12 & 10 yrs
My older cousins children; 8,5,3,2 yrs

No wonder my mum "suggested" we have it here...

OUR NEIGHBOURS ARE GOING TO LOOOOOVE US! LOL

Do kids still like slip and slide thing-o's?
ARGH - I'm racking my brains for fun things they can all do... I have xmas pass the parcles for the little ones and DF is going to disappear and come back as santa :D Any other ideas?

Oh yeah...

Has anyone used those little wrist rattles? (with velcro, you put them on bubs wrists and they crinkle and rattle) I just found some in a drawer in Scarlet's nursery that someone must have given us as a gift and she loves them, They're made by Bright Stars.

ETA::grouphug: Thanks for all the supportive comments - I'm feelin' the love over here :D

LP - Bless you on behalf of mothers all over the world for taking those girls in and giving them the love and attention they need. Don't think you have to do it all on your own, next stop (after the hearing specialist) should be your local behaviour support unit, they will have all sorts of tricks and strategies which will help you stay one step ahead. I'm sure you will do a wonderful job!

Re things to do for Christmas - any water activities will be a winner - water balloons, water pistols, those wahu balls that you dunk & throw! Also continuous cricket or handball will work. They will all have pressies to play with too and keep a quiet corner with some books or DVDs for those who have had enough excitement and just need to chill out. Also make sure they all eat and drink at a designated time cos some kids will opt out of the food for fun and then you'll have a messy little breakdown on your hands LOL!

Jazmum, that photo is just gorgeous! We were planning a nice little chrissy photie of the girls but DD1 STILL hasn't had her hair cut (bad mummy, MD) so it won't go out with the cards this year.

Renee - how mortifying re the dogs. At least you've got nice neighbours, on my street the pound would've been rung.

Leanne, I bet you can't wait until your break begins - ENJOY!

OK, gotta go, still trying to track down the CHD as apparently they arrived in BigWs here but no one knows where they are (!!!) I feel like Arnie in Jingle all the Way, Sherie! LOL

Holly & :hug:s to everyone!

Wow LP, You certainly will deserve some mumma time after christmas. I am exhausted just reading your list of people. Slip and Slide sounds like great fun.

ETA- PINATA!!!!

Oh MD i forgot to tell you - My sister's girls have a CHD and they love it! They both have very long hair and from using it they've learnt to manage it SOOO much better!... they go all out with it for thier school fates, disco's and what not & they no longer look like little cave girls *lol* - Thanks for the great ideas!

ashas still very sleepy n even a bit grumpy not sure whats going on i wonder if shes still feeling sick?
lp i'm glad those girls are going to finally get the help they need and deserve along with much needed love and attention.. those poor girls.. i think your very brave to take them on with a newborn and lots of ppl wouldnt do it so good on you for putting your hand up for this very important job!!!! your christmas do sounds big too lol but i am sure it will be great!!
md - is a chd a kids hair straightener?
rennee - sux about the dog!!! good u got him back though hope u have a nice nap today sometime

Noni, yep remember "Crispy Hair Disaster"? I'm trying to track down one of the Bratz ones. Cos it has a heart shaped crimper on it (among other things).

ETA - forgot to say, Elisabeth is 3 months old today!! She weighs 6.5 kg and is 62.5 cm long! And every inch a sweetie! :D

LP - good on you for taking on those little girls. Good luck with both of them, I'm sure you will be a great role model for them. And good luck with Christmas and all those visitors! I think bubs sleep better when it's raining because its dark. They also probably like the background noise.

MD - wow, 6.5kg! K is probably only 5.5 although with all these extra feeds lately, she's probably porking it on. None of the chemists around here have scales to weigh them on and we don't go back to the nurse until January.

Renee - how embarrassing about the dogs getting out - luckily you got them back safe and sound.

Last night she went down at 8:30, woke for a feed at 12 and 4:30!! I had a meltdown after the midnight feed, woke up DH because the bed was shaking from my crying. Jsut so tired. Of course she slept for almost 2 hours through mothers group this morning so chances of a long afternoon nap (for both of us) are looking pretty slim.

Finally visited the baby change room at the shops today. Usually we are there for such a short time there is no need. They're not too bad actually.

K had a big poo leak out the back of her nappy this morning. Her wrap and nightie were all dirty. I changed her nappy and fed her wrapped in a towel to keep her warm and then had to clean her up properly, she wasn't going to wait for breakfast.

hm, I think Scarlet is going through another sleepy stage... I went and had a shower and for the first time left her in the lounge room on her playmat because she's snoozing, I kept thinking i could hear her crying so i spent my 5 minutes in the shower turning the water off every 5 seconds straining to hear her *lol* I got out and she was sound asleep.

Can you tell we don't have plans today? I feel like the posting nazi.

ETA: I didn't see your post up there cally... Ew, leaky poos, We haven't had any of those yet... something to look foward too~! I haven't used any mum & bub change rooms yet either.

quick q when do they get teeth??? Asha is very clingy and grizzly a little dribbley too... when i put my finger in her mouth a few spots feel very hard could it b teeth already?

Noni ~ My brother's youngest is 14 months now and has most of her teeth, she started getting them at 2 months! I don't know if that's very common though... They're VERY strong teeth too, She bites everyone! lol

ETA: I googled it for you because i have nothing else to do, lmao...

"Many parents worry about the timing of the appearance of their children's teeth. While the average time for the appearance of the first teeth is between five and seven months of age, there is a wide normal variation of timing. The teeth might come in as early as one month of age, or they might wait until a child is almost one-and-a-half-years old. Anywhere in this range can be normal."

It also says that they get their bottom teeth first, so if you're feeling them on the bottom they could be teethies!

Noni, I think they get teeth around 5-8 months but some do get them earlier. I have wondered about Will because he chews anything that goes near his mouth and drools constantly but nothing has appeared so I guess he just likes to chew.

LP, I am glad you are getting the girls while they are still young enough and have a chance at a good life. Hopefully getting their hearing sorted will result in a big change for the better. My mum fostered her cousin for two years but she was 14 when she came to live with us and hadn't been to school regularly since she was 8. She didn't even know the concept of times tables when she moved in. Mum made a huge effort to keep her in school and help her try to catch up, but it was too late and as soon as she was 16 she quit school and moved back to her mothers.

DH got a $30 coles-myer voucher from work, so I taxed it and went clothes shopping for W. I rang around for a rainforest jumperoo but they are hard to find. There was one at a Babyco, but it was a half hour drive in unfamiliar territory so I ordered it online and got it $20 cheaper.

arte i thought it was 5-8mthstoo but her gums look kinda lumpy amd feel really hard.. shes grizzly n clingy n dribbley.... maybe i shld take her to the dr incase its something else....
well done on the discounted jumperoo they are great fun!

noni- Hannah is very dribbly at the moment, and sucks on her hands all day. I bought her a teething ring this afternoon - so i'll see if she likes it.
LP - that sure is a large number of kids for christmas!!!!! Bubbles should keep the younger ones occupied for a little while. Maybe print off some colouring in pages and have some felt pens handy for when they get a little tired. If you feel like it, you could make some playdough and use cookie cutters.

Bottle-feeding mummies, i'm just curious - How long do your bubba's go between feeds, how much do they drink per feed, and how many bottles per day?

Scarlet has 5, 200ml bottles in a whole 24hr period and can go for about 4 1/2 or 5 hrs without a feed during the day, obviously longer at night.

I just read a thread about an 11 month old drinking 7-8 200ml bottles per day... I thought the amount of feeds per day decreased & the quantity increased (ie: 280 or 300ml) as they got older?

ETA: that's confusing, what i mean is; I thought that as they get older you give them more milk in a bottle and therefore less feeds. Lol. Sorry if i sound like a complete moron - I'm now just worrying that i will be making and feeding Scarlet bottles 7 times a day for the next year!

ETA (again): I Don't think i make sence, If you choose to ignore me i will not be offended! LOL

lp - Asha is drinking i think around 5 in 24 hours and she drinks anywhere from 100mls to 160mls about a week ago she was drinking 160mls almost every time but shes slowed down the past few days.. she goes around 4hrs between bottles though atm shes very irregular with them sometimes going 3 and sometimes 5 lol.. if i feed her at 12:30pm though she will last until dp feeds her at around 6:30 - 7am and then after that another 3-4hrs though this morning she woke up and wanted to feed 2hrs later.. so i suppose that dosn't really help you because shes kinda out of wack atm i think shes hungry just getting tired feeding coz shes not quick enough so i am switching over to the no2 3mth flowing teats and will see how she goes.. basically before this all started she was on 160mls every four hours on the dot then the 6-7 hours over night then back to the 4hrs..
what u said completely makes sence.. i think it depends on how much solids the child is having and how hungry they are in general.. idk if as u have more milk in the bottle they drop feeds once you get to a certain age as they are getting bigger and need more iykwim? but if they are having adequate solids there will deffinately be less bottles..
lol i hope i made sence!!!

LP I cant believe how many people will be at your house for Christmas. After everything in all your posts today I am left wondering if you wear your undies on the outside, I certainly think your a Supermum ;). Sorry I cant help with the bottles, dont different brands have differnt ml's anyway? Like S26 might be 180ml for a 3 month old and Karicare might be 200? I say if Scarley is happy and putting on weight not to worry about it.

Arte well done flogging DH's Myer voucher. I love Myer vouchers as there are so many places to spend it.

Callt I hope you and K start getting a little more sleep soon. Logan isnt sleeping through yet so your not alone. We have 2 major shopping centres up here and they both have great parents rooms. One has a big lounge area when you walk in and a play area for older kids then rooms off the back for changing and toilets. The on at the other shopping centre I just discovered on the weekend as Myer was full, it had little boothes with sliding doors and a lounge inside for feeding, they were spacious too.

Jazmum, Chevron is beautiful some of the houses on the island are gorgeous.

Renne at least your neighbours called you to come and pick up the dogs, how embarrassing though you poor thing.

I tried to have a bath with Logan tonight but I left it to late and he was so tired he started screaming before I even got him in the water, he normally loves the bath and shower (he loves being naked lol) so it was awful hearing him scream, plus the bathroom echos so it sounded so much worse.

katie - i know on nestle nan formula tin its pretty vague it says like up to 2 weeks n 4 weeks mayve? i forgot how much it says then up to 2mths 160 i think 5 bottles per day then up t0 4 mths 180 5 per day so u kinda have to figure it out for yourself i remember karicare was the same

LP - Rory is on 180mls every 4 hours during the day like clock-work. Just an example he had his first feed at 6:30pm today, then 10:30pm, 2:30pm, 6:30pm and he just had his last one at 9:00 but that was a 120ml top up bottle before I put him to bed as he wont feed now until 6:00am-ish tomorrow morning.
S26 recommend 5 x 180 bottles over 24 hours for his age (2 - 4 months). And then when he is 4 - 6 months he will be on 5 x 240mls bottles over 24hrs. When he is over 6 months he will have more mls but only 4 x bottles.

Ozstar - Looks like we both have little nudie babies haha. I was giving Rory a bath this evening when he caught a glimpse of himself in the mirror. At first he smiled a little and then his face turned into shock horror and screamed the house down. The poor darling was so upset he wasn’t breathing right, he was almost hyperventilating (sp)! I have never seen him cry like that before so I was panicking and almost crying myself.
There are some pretty fancy parents rooms around! I feel like im in a super secret society when im in some LOL!

DId another HPT today and got a BIG FAT NEGATIVE :) whooohoooooooo! Although I would love another bub real soon I just wouldn’t be able to appreciate Rory and the new bub/pregnancy the way I want to. Okay that sounded really awful but what I mean is I want to devote all my attention solely on Rory for the first few years. And when the time is right for another baby I want to appreciate and nurture my pregnancy like I did with Rory. I don’t want to feel pressured and rushed. I hope that makes sense LOL!