Babies Born September 2007 #18

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well life is certainly busy, i have finally gotten back on here after what seems months. all is going well, hope you are all doing fine, it seems you are from the little bits n pieces i have read. t is doing so well, she is in th 97th percentile of weight and i'm still b/feeding. t is gorgeous, i love her to bits, i love being a mum and will continue to jump on here when i can. am still meeting up with my mother's group and have started walking with them too. still need to loose 10kgs but going to do something about it after i finish b/feeding, as I'm scared that if i cut out or reduce my intake of dairy it could be detrimental. any views i would be greatly appreciative to hear.

well lovely ladies, cheeeoww for nooowwww!!!!!!

hey fianne - just saw your msg. yeah it was me. i'm pretty sure it will be about the 2nd or 3rd episode in this new season. mind you i have not seen any advertising for mcleods yet, have you? it did get axed - but i have heard they will be showing the finally season.

hi supablondie- good to hear from you!
t sounds a lot like lewis- he is usually around the 97th percentile or above it, oh and i still need to lose about 8kgs!
have a lovely day today ladies, i'm off to the hairdressers- taking my little ratbag with me. should be fun. not!

SOS have a very attention demanding child. grizzles and cries until she sees me, then she coos. if i don't talk back to her, she starts grizzling again. could this be because she's hungry? also, absolutely EVERYTHING goes into the mouth. this is worrying me because of the b/feeding thing. :(

Fianne, sounds normal to me. W squeals and grumps if he is not getting attention and he always has something in his mouth. He got a new toy - a crab with googley eyes - and he grizzled until I looked at him then he went quiet and put the eye in his mouth. I think he just wanted to show me something new he could do lol

How is the BF going?

Fianne how is the breast feeding going? I am sure she would let you know if she is hungry. Perhaps its a growth spurt/wonder week?? Logan was quite demanding of my attention last week, he would do the same as Max and would only settle for me. Hopefully it is just a faze.

Gracie lucky you getting to the hairdressers, I haven't been in months.

Supa sounds like T is doing great.....sound slike your doing a wonderful job and enjoying every minute of it.

Arte I wouldnt be to worried about Will not lifting up with his arms. They all do things at different times. Logan still isnt rolling and i was worried until my girlfriend came down over the weekend. Her 7 month old has just started rolling and sitting up.

Leanne I hope you enjoy your girls night out...sounds fantastic. You have had so much to deal with lately but your doing a fantatsic job.

Sherie and Jaz how did the kids go with school?

Noni I hope your safely in Melb and the plane ride wasnt to bad for you.

Logan has decided over the last 3 days to wake up for a feed around 2am, its not a bad thing but I was starting to really enjoy him sleeping through till 5am. Better go sound slike Logan would like to play.

don't know. weight gain in 1 wk, th-th, was only ~80grams. starting to get heavier nappies tho the past 2 days. only been giving her formula at night 50-100ml.
horror drive to hospy yesterday. cried for full 20 mins. when i rushed to get him out of the seat when we got there, she saw me and just started cooing.

btw, what will happen if i only feed from 1 bb? she seems to have a total dislike for the left but quite happy to suck on the right. pretty sure there's milk in the left but also think there's not as much. struggle to try to get her to feed on left before i give in and give her the right one.

eta: have added a couple of more recent photos in the gallery

Hey Fianne, don't worry too much about what she's doing ATM - Alister is exaclty the same, just gets this 'mmm-mmmmmm-mmmmmm' thing going until someone pays him attention and then he's smiling and laughing, so I think it's just for attention plain and simple LOL. Drives me mental though because i know there is nothing wrong with him, but he's at the age now where he wants to be involved in everything. And he chews on anything he can get a hold of - hands, feet, clothes, toys and I know he isn't hungry when he does it. Don't worry about her weight either - its not a sign you aren't feeding her enough, how many poos does she do in a day?

Katie, the first day went well. Erin is happy to keep going to school LOL, but she was very tired last night.

Gracie, I took Alister with me when I had my hair done a few weeks ago and he was fine for most of it, but got tired just before I was done. Fingers crosed Lewis is a good boy.

Hi SupaB! great to see you. T sounds like she is just perfect. I haven't seen any ads for McCleods daughters either actually.

Hi Arte. Alister can lift himself on his arms, but spends nearly all tummy time flapping them around to the sides of him, trying to move around and grab toys.

Leanne, a girls night sounds fantastic, lucky thing you are. I hope you have a great time.

Not much going on here. It's strange not having Erin around, but very peaceful I must admit. She had a good day yesterday, but one of the boys she went to preschool with is a real bugger kid and was a bit of a bully to her and others that were in the same group is luckily not in the same class, but Erin said he was being mean to her during group playtime. I think I may have to keep an eye on it and see how it goes. I might need to say something to her teacher.

Alister is just Alister LOL, but like I mentioned above, driving me nuts with his 'I want attention" grizzling. It's hard too when the kids get him wound up, then they get bored and leave him, but he's not had enough, so then I have to take over then. I laybyed some clothes yesterday for winter for him and i was a bit dissapointed in what target had so far. I hope Myer is better.

Fianne, try holding her in a 'football hold' under your arm to see if she will take the left side that way. Off to have a squizz at her piccies...

sherie, thanks. will try the football hold later. used to do 2 poos a day but she's been doing 1 in 3-4 days recently.

Arte - Maddie is the same as Will with the tummy time. I was worrying about it too. Your mum has done very well to hold back on the advice till now. Is Will waking because he is hungry or just because he can? :) Its Will that is thumb sucking as well isnt it? Maddie is still sucking away on her thumb, I've tried pulling it out but it always sneaks back in lol given up now. Is Will still sneaking it in too?

Ozstar - Hope Logan starts sleeping through for you again. Maybe he is growth spurting?

Gracie - How did you go at the hairdressers?

Noni - Hope you had a good flight and enjoy your time in Melb. I saw Sydney had bad storms again last night and I thought of you - hope nothing got damaged.

Leemar - Even though we love our babies to bits, its soooo good to have a night away from it all with the girls. Even going to the gym I find is absolutely excellent. Leave dad to deal with it hehe.

Supablondie - Sounds like you are really enjoying being a mum, its great isnt it!?

JordieC - Haha thats always the way isnt it! Little girls and their Dads.... :doh:

Sherie - Thanks for the tips regarding the excema. I'm going to buy some QV wash for her today and some cream. My DP's side of the family have hay fever, while my side have asthma, so she was bound to get it I think. Last night I washed her in Cetaphil (I had some as I use it as my facial cleanser) and put paw paw on it. I bath her every night as her bed time routine, it works very well, so I dont think I'll stop bathing her every night.

Far out Maddie slept and slept yesterday, must have been the needles. Usually I put her to bed at 7ish and she will sleep through (dream feed at 9) but Wednesday night she had a late night, bed at 8.15 and she slept like a little champion, did not wake until 10AM!!!!!! She then went back down for another two hours at 11am.

Where have Marydean & LP gone?? :(

Fianne - I think I read somewhere if they are having 6 or more wet nappies a day they are getting enough. I would think if you fed more from one boobie then you would have one big balloon boobie and one deflated boobie lol ohhh I'm sorry I'm not BFing so I really am of no help to you.

Sherie - I'm another mcleods fan! Except I think it went a bit downhill after Tess left....or maybe even after Clare died. The first few seasons are the best.

Hi Ladies,

Well I had some what of a emotional break down today I finally reached my breaking point however I am over it now and want to just move on at getting strong again. I think it was just work,kids,house and DH finally got to me. I am usually a strong person and dont like feeling sorry for myself but I suppose sometimes we all get to that stage and somehow get back on top of things. Sorry for the rant...

Leanne, hope you are feeling better now. I snap every once in a while and I only have one bub and I don't work.

Haley, W is still sucking his thumb. I let him do it when he is tired, but if he is just doing it for something to do I pull it out. I did see him start to wake then put his thumb in his mouth and go back to sleep the other day so it may be good for helping him to self settle. I am a bit worried though because I started nail chewing from an early age and can't stop.

Noni, did your house survive the storm o.k? You have had a run of bad weather lately. Hope you are having a good time.

Fianne, good luck with the football hold to get her to drink from lefty. I often feed lying on the bed with both of us on our sides facing tummy to tummy to feed W. When he has dozed off I can climb away and don't have to move him. W has a preference for righty too, he will only drink from the right side before bed time.

It is unlike MD to be MIA for so long - anyone know where she is? And LP too. Hope it is only a temporary absence.

leanne, big big hugs to you. you soo deserve a rant and breakdown. it shames me to say that i breakdown as well (like this morning) and i don't do anything but care for 1 baby.
as for my b/feeding woes. spoke to lc that i saw last friday and her weight gain's not enough and she's not settled enough for me to continue with what i've been doing. i'm now to give her 40-60 mls of formula 4-5 times a day and a bigger bottle at night. would give the formula after i b/feed. and hope that the fenugreek and dom peridon (yes, i'm giving in and going to my gp for a script for it) works. after this, if it still doesn't work, i'm putting her on full formula. no more breast and formula combination.

Thanks Girls,

I am feeling much better now. Unfortunatly I am the type of person that bottles things up so as not to bother anybody and then one day it all just snaps. All is good. We just turned Olivias seat around today and I just realised that my baby is growing up. Well babies. Any way have a wonderful day to all.Its my brothers birthday and we are going out for lunch.

hmmm...wonder what mischief everyone's up to. it's soooo quiet in here.... :shhh:

leanne, glad to hear that all's well with you now. chin up, you're doing great. enjoy your brother's bday lunch.

had lunch at mt glorious for mother's group yesterday...great place. bit of a drive though....well, 45 mins but it felt really far because it's up the mountain. unfortunately, i had a crying baby ALL THE WAY HOME. good thing that i've already "hardened" myself to her cries....well, a bit anyway....and as usual, as soon as i got the car in the car port, she saw me, it was cooing and not crying i got. *sigh. a couple of the mothers in that mother's group mentioned turning their babies to face forward already and am thinking i might do the same. she might like car rides better if she faces forward rather than back. also thinking of graduating her from capsule to car seat. oh no! our babies are growing up!!!

I have been wondering as well when to turn the car seat around. Maddie lifts her head up iykwim and looks around.

Leanne - I am the same with bottling it all up. Glad you are feeling better.

Fianne - You have done so well with the BFing, give it one last shot like you said. Max will be fine on solely formula. I've also noticed a lot of the girls from my mums group that were BFing have now put their bubs onto formula so dont worry, you have done an excellent job with BFing.

Arte - Thumb sucking is helping Maddie to self settle too. Oh well we cant really do much about it lol.

I took Madeline to the CHN yesterday, and apparently she is behind with tummy time. Just when I wasnt worrying about it, seems I now have something to worry about. She has to spend majority of her awake time on her tummy now and then we go back to the CHN in two weeks to see if theres any improvement. So far she is hating it hehe poor thing. I told my mum who rushed out and bought her the Lamaze spin & explore tummy time gym - anyone have this and if so does it help make a baby enjoy tt? Apparently you can only use it up to 5 mths of age.... lol thanks mum. :)

hi hayley! thanks so much for your encouragement. you've been a big help to my confused state of mind. your comment on how the BFing mums in your mums group are switching to formula now has reminded me that i am happy to have gone through 3 months + of BFing when i couldn't even contemplate getting through 1 month at the start. and that i don't see myself BFing up to 1 year anyway which means that i'll be weaning her off the breasts soon so why am i pushing this so hard now?
i realized that it was partly due to my selfishness that i'm pushing it at this time. to make it more convenient for us when we travel to the u.s. in march. this is so not right of me. :redface: i feel so guilty but at the same time, i'm also happy that i've woken up and realized the mistake i'm making.
but in fairness to myself, i really thought that the milk was coming in which was why i decided to give it another go. now, i know better and will just stick to what i've been doing. :)
thanks to everyone for your encouragements. i think, like all the advice that we get from all around, this was an idea that i had to try and discard for myself. i think i might've gone with regrets if i didn't really give it a good try to go purely BFing.

in celebration of our decision to go formula, we gave max an additional 100 ml bottle (this was after breastfeeding and 80 mls), which she finished (guess i really must've been starving her this week :( ) and was so full that she could just sit back like a sack of potatoes after the bottle. she was also in such a good mood. and then i saw the tired signs so i wrapped her up and left her on the blanket on the floor while i checked my emails. when i turned back to look at her to see if she was ok, she was asleep!!! no cries, no rocking, no music....just went to sleep!!! this reaffirms that i've made the right decision...finally!!!

Fianne I am glad your happy with your decision. You have done a sensational job so far.

Hayley try not to worry to much about the tummy time, what made her say Maddie is behind? Remember all baby's do things at different stages and ages.

Leanne glad your feeling better. I too tend to bottle everything up. You come in here and vent whenever you need too...thats what we are here for. Your doing a great job dealing with everything so far, I dont think I would be dealing with it as good as you have.

Arte I was wondering about LP and MD too, I hope they are just to busy with their kids going back to school etc.

We caught up with our Antenatal class this morning, it was so much fun. Logan is the baby of the group and the only one not on solids, I am also the only one still BF. It was great to catch up and see how much everyone's babies have grown. Logan hasnt been eating very much lately, I am not sure if he is getting more breast milk or something else is going on. He had no weight gain last week so will see how he goes this week, I am not worried he is still a happy little vegimite.

Fianne, yay for making a decision that you are happy with. At least when you look back you can see that you gave BF your best shot, I am sure that everyone will be far happier now that you don't need to stress about whether she is getting enough. Well done on getting to 3 months.

Haley, I was also wondering what made the CHN say she is behind in tummy time? W only does a couple of 5 minute (if that) bursts during the day and some days he doesn't do it at all. I am worried about the arm flapping instead of propping himself up but as Katie says they all do things at different times so I am sure he will get there eventually.

Katie, glad you had a good time at your antenatal meet up. W also hasn't been eating much. I haven't weighed him for a couple of weeks so I don't know if he is gaining any. I think he is just distracted, he will drink for a couple of minutes then something shiny will catch his eye. He loves that 'rock your body' song for the So You Think You Can Dance ad. Every time he will stop feeding to sit and watch that stupid ad.

Nothing happening here, just slowly packing. Only 10 more sleeps until we go home.

BTW I was looking at some NZ parenting forums but they aren't very good. I did learn the charming expression of BOMFOC (Body Of Model, Face Off Crimewatch). I think I will just stay on BB

Hello everyone!

Fianne, don't ever think that you were starving her, because you weren't. Formula makes them feel fuller and appear more *satisfied* so it looks like it confirms your worry about supply/quality, but really it's just because it sits *heavier* in their tummys and is harder and takes longer for them to digest. I have really admired you for giving it everything you had to try to make it work and for that you should feel so proud of yourself.

OK, you can all stop worrying about Marydean - she hasn't dissapeared off the face of the earth LOL - she's been in my neck of the woods since Wednesday with her DH and the girls doing her residential part of her degree. We had a meet up today (I took the kids to Wagga and we all went to an indoor play centre) and we had a great time - the kids got along really well and Miss E is such a delightful little baby. We took pics too, so I will post them to the gallery later tonight.

Leanne, hugs for you hun. You sound so much like me - I do the same thing, just keep it inside till I can't hold it in anymore and then just snap. Luckily a good scream at anyone/everyone/no-one and a big cry in the shower is enough to get it all out and feel better again. I turned Alisters seat around about a month ago because he kept trying to sit forward to see better. This coincided with him being able to pull himself to a sitting position in his chair too. its hard to let them grow up when they will always be our *babies*.

Hayley, Alister stil sucks his thumb from time to time if he has lost his dummy, but I don't think he will be like Paige is though.

Hi to everyone else!

hello everyone

leanne- sorry you had a mini breakdown- i think i'm due for one of them soon too! sometimes it all just gets to be too much. i imagine it must be very hard for you with the twins and the newborn. you have a lot on your plate girl!

fianne- sounds like you've made the right decision hun. you given it a really good go, so should be proud of that.

sherie- can't wait to see the photos of you and md. i'm so glad you guys got to meet up. it's awesome. i wish we all lived in the same state!

arte- i know a few bomfocs!! we tend to call them 'good from far, far from good' ha. so nasty!!!

Yay, glad MD hasn't disappeared! It sounds like you had a good time, can't wait to see the pics.

I looked over today and W was sitting up in his bouncer, all I could see in my mind was the pic of Alister tipping onto the floor lol Is it still safe to use the bouncer once they start doing that?

Here 'tis -
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4640

I will upload one of the big kids together too.

Arte, I still use it, I just make sure he is always strapped in now. Although tonight I just sat him in it without the straps because it was only while I got his bottle ready and by the time I came back he'd fallen out LOL - and he wasn't so happy this time either. I love that term too - rude but so very apt for some people.

Hi Gracie! I wish we all lived closer too. I feel a bit envious of all the city meets sometimes cause I'm so far away.

Sherie the pic is great. Both Miss E and Alister look adorable.

Gracie we call them DDW's- Distnace does wonders lol.

Arte Logan is the same with the getting distracted. Lol at W loving the So you think you can dance song, thats cute.

I can't beleive I am still awake, I am so tired but not tired enough to sleep IYKWIM. It has started to rain here, looks tomorrow will be a boring day :(.

What a couple of cuties!

I used to think that 'good from afar but far from good' was an apt description of myself, but then I got fat and now I'm not really good from anywhere lol

Katie, I am still up too. I know I should go to bed, W is still getting up 3 times a night. Boring times around here too.

JaZmum, how is Hannah's tummy? Do you have a family history of gluten intolerance? The chemical that causes the intolerance can go through the breastmilk and I think it causes a greater reaction over time. Have you tried a gluten or sugar free few days to see if there is an improvement? How was the first week of school?

I forgot to organise the Brisbane meet-up. This is my last week here and I don't think I am going to have time to do it now.

I am a bit ****ed at my in-laws. We asked if they wanted us to visit them at easter of if they wanted to come up to see us but they d1cked around for a few weeks and now they have finally decided to organise something the airfares are twice the price. FIL kept saying 'we will see what happens with the house' (we get company housing), which was really annoying because we will definitely have a house of some description - we won't be living in a tent.

They are cuties aren't they?

urgh at your IL's, I get really peeved at people who are indecisive and wont commit to a plan, it's not hard to say yes or no.

Hayley, I meant to reply to you before, but forgot. Don't worry about the tummy time - some babies just will not have a bar of it, but that doesn't mean that they are behind at all, just that they hate tummy time.

hi ladies! looking forward to seeing photos of alister and miss e.

is there a guideline anywhere of when babies are ready to go from capsule to car seat? i put max in the car seat today and it was a good fit. straps weren't even in the lowest hole. the car seat we've got has the insert for infants. this is a second hand one that a friend had given us so i don't have any manual or anything. i want to put max in it because i think it may make car rides better for her and if she was facing front, she can see me and i can talk to her and it would hopefully make for a more peaceful car ride.
brisbane/qld ladies, are we able to meet up before arte crosses the tasman sea?
eta: this was typed yesterday and forgotten :) hope everyone'd having a good weekend

ok, i've gone through the posts since i started this....
...ms e and alister are such cuties!!! and nice to put a face to names, sherie and md!
...would've really like to have met you in RL arte, but i do understand how hectic things can get with the move. good luck
...arte, isn't it such a pain in the a$$ when people just can't make up their mind? i tend to make it for them. lol

morning,

Arte grrrr at your inlaws. I cant beleive you will be going so soon. Let us know if you do have any time for a catch up.

Fianne I am not 100% but I think they recommend forward facing car seats at a certain weight, about 9kg I think. It is just a guidline though and many people turn theres around when they think their bubs is ready.

Its has poured down here all night, my front garden is stating to pool. I much prefer it when it rains at night, I have a few loads of washing to do and I hate being stuck at home with nothing to do on the weekend- it means I have to clean my bathroom lol.

Sherie - Oh that pic is so cute! Looks like you guys had a fun time. Have you ever met before?

Fianne - Thats good that you are happy with your decision. As you know you have done so well to BF for that long. I had Maddie on formula on week 2! At the time I felt like the worst mummy ever, but looking back I'm glad we made the decision to go formula. Whatever works for you both I guess.

Arte - I have since realised (partly from everyone's comments, thanks girls) that the CHN was over exaggerating. Maddie does the same with flapping around the arms and legs and face planting. However she has her moments when she gets right up there. Since I've been putting her on the tum heaps more there is already improvement. I think the CHN was also worried about the fact that she has a bit of a flat head at the back, so I need to get her off it as much as possible. I cant believe you are leaving for NZ so soon, I was thinking it was at least a couple of months away!

Katie - Are you waiting till 6 mths before starting Logan on solids? Only one still BFing, well done.

I went to a pash party last night, which is kind of like an adult shop party but not as tacky. It was a good laugh thats for sure! A lot of the girls bought scary looking sex toys, but I'm not into any of that hehe - instead I bought a game called 52 weeks of romance, and the whole idea is each week someone takes a card, and it will say for example leave a rose on your partners pillow or greet your partner at the door after work with a big kiss and their fave home cooked meal. Some are a bit corny, but we need to put the romance back into our relationship after 7 yrs and a baby!!

I've just added 3 more pics to my gallery, we had a photo shoot the other day :D Check out our little chubba bubba! Bigger boobies than mummy!

Hayley she is adorable, check out the little boobies- to cute. Did you play games at the pash party? I had one of those types of parties for my hens night and we played some pretty outrageous games. I am not puting Logan on solids until he is 6 months, we aren't in a hurry after all we have loads of time for him to eat real food. He has had rice cereal twice in the last two weeks.

We have had such a boring day today. Logan still doesnt seem to be hungry, he takes the breast butthen doesnt want a bbottle or doesnt have very much, I am hoping it means he doesnt want formula anymore. Otherwise I guess it could be teeth?? He is still a happy little monkey so I am not worried and just let him lead.
I hope everyone has had a good weekend. I hope LP is back on soon and that everything is ok.

time for a new thead again :)