Babies Born September 2007 #40

[Junglemum]

Happy birthday Noni!

That is terrible Rainy. No way anyone was coming near me or her with a bottle in the hossy! The hossy i went to are really pro BF'ing and were a great support. Shame they are not all like that.

PAP- hmmmm pre baby holiday sounds great. If i can talk DH in to taking some time off that is. I know what you mean about choosing a cold holiday, but NZ and Tassie are so beautiful, you have to do it sometime. i feel funny posting about my pregnancy in here! lol. But i certianly don't mind reading about everyone elses updates.

Cally- i'm glad you asked, i have no idea what Halva is either....i don't have any plans to do anything differently, oh except not get pre-eclampsia this time! Realy put a spanner in the works! Fingers crossed. I'm a bit of a take-things-as-they-come kinda gal so no real plans, just keep reading and gathering info!

I was out walking yesterday with Lu, we were checking out the helicopters doing emergency drills in the front paddock. Anyway, i swallowed a fly and started trying to cough it up and wet myself in the process! What a glamorous mum i am!

[AnyDream]

Halva - imagine a sweet nutty tasting nougat made from sesami/tahini sort of stuff. Semolina halva is like a dense semolina cake with pinenuts and syrup in it. Mmmmm.

Fish oil sounds like it could work, I'm just not sure about the ponk factor.

On the day sleeps, E has pretty much dropped back to one only, but she's pretty tired so she has to have an extra catch up sleep every few days to compensate. Because DH has been here it's easier to manage the late arvo tiredness and so we've just been pushing through it and putting her to bed a little earlier. Which works on the days when we're at home because she has a long sleep but on daycare days not so good.

[MamaPan]

Ange - that is HILARIOUS!!!did you take the opp to teach Lu the story of 'the woman who swallowed a fly'??? too funny!!!
Halva is a sesame based sweet - middle eastern. yu can buy the good stuff at delis. and normal range in a supermarket, it is super sweet and v good with a nice cuppa tea!!
Cally - i loved my whole preg, birth etc so ideally i wont doa thing diff!!! i am doing acupuncture though so that is additional to all the prep/pampering i did last time.

[Junglemum]

MD- You could try some pawpaw, the yellow Lucas brand from a health food store is best, not petroleum based.

[Leemar]

Hi Girls

HAPPY BIRTHDAY NONI

PP- We are going to San Franciso, Flagstaff, Las Vegas ,Disneyland. How do I manage with 3 hummmmmm I do the best I can to stay sane. lol and I do have sort of a routine.

Re the Havana's - OMG I was totally ****ed that she lost it and dreaded telling DH. Believe me I not the type of person to go out and splash money around on expensive shoes but I did like them and did a really stupid thing of trying them on her then just giving them to the lady and I didnt even check the price. Yep Stupid I know but whats done is done and still kicking myself.

Day sleeps - Livi still is on 2 a day

[Ginger]

ange- i'm loving it that i'm not the only one wetting my pants
last week we went to a picnic at a friend's house and lewis was crawling around the rug and picked up a jug of cordial and ice and threw it all over my friend. she was in the middle of telling a story and just stopped and froze cos she went into shock cos it was so cold on her back. anyways, ...i couldn't help remove the ice from down the back of her top because i was wetting my pants from laughing so hard....not good.

l is still on 2 day sleeps. i tried to do one but he couldn't hack it

[Artechim]

Rainy, you are soooo gunna get caught!!! What if he comes home early??? Do you have any special occasions coming up like anniversaries etc?

MD, I have been using wheatgerm oil on W's dribble rash (left over from pregnancy - doesn't prevent stretch marks BTW). It seems to be helping a bit. He also has nappy rash for the first time ever, these friggin molars are never going to come out!.

Rainy, I would have been superp1ssed if they had decided to ff W at the hospital. I specifically said they couldn't, they are all too eager because I had gestational diabetes. I think I got lucky with my hospital though because some automatically take GD bubs to special care for 24 hours and I got a lovely dr who saw how upset I was at the prospect of a c-section so he kept doing scalp lactic acid tests on W to make sure he wasn't too distressed. I think a different combo of people/places and I would have been sliced and diced.

PP, come to NZ!!!! It is lovely here, you won't regret it. It won't be any colder than Tassie, and late feb/march is still good weather. I would suggest Nelson and Marlborough Sounds area, so beautiful. I got married there in late Feb and the days were long and hot, it has one of the best climates in NZ. You could come to visit me too, but we live in a ski town so it is pretty dead and boring in the summer time. We are forcast to have a hot summer and judging by the past few days they have it right - I have crisscross sunburn all up my arms, that's what you get for letting a one year old rub the sunscreen in lol

Leanne, bummer about the shoe, that would really bug me. LMAO at your boys having fistycuffs because of their cool hair

Ange, PMSL at your fly incident.

W is down to one nap a day now. Today he considered his 20 minute nap on the way home from Playcentre to be enough, then really needed one later but it was well past the 3pm cutoff (or he won't go to bed). So he ended up having a meltdown at dinner and was in bed at 6pm which is 2 hours earlier than usual. Not sure how that will go. We had a great day playing outside in the sandpit and the paddling pool.

Can't remember who was asking about roast veges? I have started pouring a bit of olive oil in a bowl and tossing them though that so they are lightly coated. It makes them crispier on the outside but still moist on the inside. Not as healthy though. I usually put some garlic stock or curry powder or balsamic vinegar etc with the oil so they have a hint of flavour.

[Ginger]

arte- where have you been????
no, no anniversaries or anything coming up...you would've thought maybe my b'day would've been a good one?? but ....no.....i don't know what's going on in his head...
they started giving him formula because my milk didn't come in properly till day 5 and he was losing more than the 10% weight or whatever it is- mind you, he weighed 10bs3oz...so idk????....anyway, i basically stopped the formula once i got home because i was too lazy to mix it up and bfeed and express....all i was doing was feeding.
i didn't know you had gd. was will a large baby?

[AnyDream]

OMG talking of large babies, I'm going through some little clothes and sorting them into boxes for my neice and soon-to-be-born neice, and DH got on the phone to ask what size 13 week old neice is. I was thinking, prolly size 00, she looks pretty porky in the photos. Well she's a 0-1 (!!!!!!!!!!!!) WTF E is still in some of her 0s for crying out loud. Well I shouldn't be surprised since she's now apparently having three meals of solids stuffed into her a day. Sorry if I sound like a raving delaying-solids lunatic but REALLY. Last week I emailed some proud aunty pictures to my friend (who's incidentally a dietician) and she's really concerned. She was average sized (7 lb ish) when she was born, apparently even my MIL (her mother) is worried even though she bottlefed and introduced solids early to all of hers (like they did in the old days). Lordy let's just hope she becomes a very active toddler.

ETA - I remember some of our bubs in this thread were pretty big (but from memory looked in proportion), so if this is normal someone please give me a reality check!

[Ozstar]

Hey ladies,

Just have a quick question for you all since all our babies are chucking tantrums, how do you deal with them? Do you ignore them or distract them?? Every time I say no, take something off him (that he shouldn't be playing with) or bring him inside he has a tantrum. I know it is all part of the age and they dont really bother me I just want to know the best way to handle them. Sometimes he throws himself on the ground and hits his head (he doesnt bang his head over and over or anything) or he pushes his head across the ground like a bulldozer.

thanks girls and sorry for the selfish post, I have been meaning to ask but keep forgetting.

[Cally]

MD - gosh that does sound big. K is somewhere between a 0 and 1 now, I bought all her summer stuff as a 1, but if it's a cooler day she is still right for her 0's. Any idea on what she weighs? K seems stuck on 9.5 kg. (DH just asked if your niece was on steroids lol!!)

Oz - if I know what the reason is, I will try and reason with her, but if she doesn't get it, I generally just leave her for a bit. If opportunities for distraction are around that is handy, but they aren't always there (like this afternoon she was refusing to walk down the ramp from childcare, not really much available for distraction there, so I just picked her up and walked back to the car telling her that it was home time - I suppose it's good she wanted to stay though)

ETA: Science of Parenting had some good stuff on tantrums, I need to read it again to remind myself - do you have that book? I could scan the pages and email it to you if you wanted - PM me.

Rainy - DD lost more than 10% too, but they never asked me about formula, they just got me to pump in the hope of bringing it in faster. I had a Csect though, wasn't yours vaginal, 5 days is a long time for the milk to come in. DH brought up formula because he was worried about DD but I just told him no.

Had to fill in an accident report today, K fell over and hit under her eye on the floor today, so she's getting a black eye. Both eyes are also a bit gunky which was the first sign of her last cold that turned into a shocker, so I really hope she doesn't get badly sick again. Will try and be a better mother this time and get her to the doctor more quickly, poor little poppet.

Time for bed.

[Ozstar]

Cally I borrowed the Science of Parenting from the library, might have to go and get it again. I am trying to find a copy of Toddler tactics too.

ETA it must be frustrating for them not being able to just say what they want.

[Ginger]

hi girls

md- that baby is so big! why are they giving her solids so early???

cally- yes my delivery was vaginal- i'm not sure why my milk took so long, but when it came i looked like pamela anderson! LOL there'll be no formula this time, i'll be more assertive now that i'm an experienced breastfeeder

katie- yes tantys are bad! i have to admit, *touch wood*, lewis isn't as bad as some of the other kids i've seen lately at mothers group etc. he's pretty cruisey. generally we can distract him by picking him up and blowing mouth farts into his neck or tummy or something like that, that makes him laugh and forget.

[AnyDream]

md- that baby is so big! why are they giving her solids so early???

Ummm, because they have rocks in their head???!! I reallly don't know. The photos we have of her is of a plump baby getting progessively plumper to the point where her head now looks triangular on account of her jowls (that sit on her shoulders). I'm assuming that perhaps she has been an unsettled baby that settles well when fed and so therefore they have just keep feeding her more and more in order to settle her? And I'm guessing that after a point the formula stopped working and so they started solids. That's the only explanation I can think of. You know you see large babies and plump babies around the place, but they always look in proportion, you know? So you can say, that's just a large baby, that's just the way they are. My friend's little boy is like that, he was always huge, but in proportion, kwim? But she really just looks utterly overfed!

ETA:
BTW - it's not unusual for it to take up to 5 days for milk to come in, Cally. Especially not with the first. When I went home with DD1 on day 4 my milk had not yet come in (not that anyone at the hospital gave two hoots about it). My understanding though is that the colostrum usually meets their needs just fine during that time, if you keep putting them to the breast frequently (ie every time they so much as murmur) and expressing (if there's attachment issues or sleepy baby, etc) then hopefully the milk comes in as it should (although Trill will vouch that sometimes it does not).

[AnyDream]

crazy stoopid computer!

[Ginger]

i think that's kinda cruel- you know, like when you see on tv those owners of labradors that are 70kgs and massive huge obese cats and stuff.
has anyone said anything to the parents?- like the mchn or anything?

[AnyDream]

i think that's kinda cruel- you know, like when you see on tv those owners of labradors that are 70kgs and massive huge obese cats and stuff.
has anyone said anything to the parents?- like the mchn or anything?

Like I said, even my MIL and SIL have tried to talk to her about it (very unusual for them to be sticking their nose in because she has two older boys and should know what she's doing). Not sure what sort of MACH services they have up there (rockhampton) but it's not a very educated social strata that they're in. OR maybe we're all wrong and it is just the way she is and we'll all be biting our tongues in two years time when she's running around, normal toddler sized...?!

[Isadora]

Rainy - Is it too early to say congratulations!? You are so so funny I had a little chuckle reading your posts. I wonder when he will do it, probably working up the courage. How sweet. YAY we can plan a wedding together lol.

Noni - Happy birthday, hope you had a lovely day!

MD - Gosh that is one big bubba! Hope she drops her puppy fat when she gets moving more.

Pregpan - Still SO excited for you!! Gosh I am getting clucky this is bad.

Oz - Tantrums, I dont make a big deal I just try to move her on to something else.

Trillian - What a special mummy you have, very kind indeed. Had a little giggle at Alister chucking tantys when he wants a lolly lol. Maddie knows the pantry now & that it contains snacks, if I open it & dont come out with something for her boy she lets me know.

Arte - Yum, the roast veges sound good. You can even try olive oil & mixed spice (its sweet but so good) drizzled over pumpkin. Its delicious, especially if cooked to the point where its very soft. Maddie devours it. Weird combination but so yumo.

We are down to one day sleep here as well. At daycare she only does one half an hr stint, its really not enough because she bombs out shortly after getting home, but cant fight with M she wants to be up and exploring no matter how tired.

As for the breastfeeding, I still feel as if I gave up on it way too early so thats definately one thing I hope to change the next time around. I also think I wasnt prepared, I thought BFing came naturally and was so simple, however I found it to be so hard and painful. Now that I know more hopefully next time will be different. Rainy you did well for getting rid of the formula when you got home. Listen to me, already planning for the next one, I am getting so clucky!