You could be just starting to get ready for things - pre-labour can last for weeks or they could be BH's. We've never done Gymbaroo cause they don't have it here. I don't know what else you could do?
Rainy I was going to say perhaps the pains were BH or pre labour. Have you thought about story time at the local library for L? Not going for any certain sex, I would love a little boy next but would be happy either way.
Trillian You need someone to come to swimming and get some photos of A, sounds very funny.
Nella hun I am sorry to hear your news.
Noni good luck with the scan, I cant believe your 11 weeks already.
Arte we are looking at private midwives because I want a homebirth. NZ sounds like it has a great system. Sorry to hear W isn't sleeping again. My friend is going through the same thing with her 18 month old, I was actually going to see if anyone had any advice.
Oz, no advice from me lol, but if you hear of anything good then I am willing to try it. At this point I will try anything.
Rainy, hope the pains are just warm ups. Yip, I BF him every time he wakes. I have tried cuddles, patting, shushing, getting DH to have a go but it escalates to very upset crying very quickly. He Bfs a zillion times a day too. I hope my milk dries up during the pregnancy, I suspect that is the only way he will wean. He is such a good baby in every other way though, I guess you can't have it all. Can you go to a playground and let him go for it to burn off some energy?
Sherie, good to see you back. I don't think I could manage 4 kids and school holidays!
thanks sherie- i don't think it's BH, but i have to say, there is definitely more preabour pain than last time. Dh keeps calling me the girl who cried wolf, after last time he doesn't believe he'll see the baby until march.
katie- i thought of the library, but L is just such a terror i think it would be more stress than it's worth. there's no way he'd sit still and listen. he woud be pulling books off shelves and ripping them!
arte-well L weaned at 25weeks pg- so that may happen to you. i was actually really pleased when he weaned, i had well and truely had enough.
one of my bfs bfeeds her dd a zillion times a day too still xoxo
wowsers it has been AGES since i was on here. had to go to QLD to visit my grandparents for a week. almost went mad without BB!!
Rainy: sounds like BH to me. when it happens try to lie down for a bit (or sit still) and it should go away. i found that it happened when i was walking too much...
Arte: ROFL about your DHs haircut!
ummm. sorry forgot everything else...will have to jump on later as miss L is refusing to go to sleep and the dog is being naughty, sigh, BBL
Well I didnt get the Oobi dress, I'm being good and cutting down on my spending.
Noni - 11 weeks already that has flown by! Let us know how the scan goes.
Oz - Hope last nights action worked for you, good luck. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Arte - You poor thing, you must feel very tired. I am in the same boat, just not as many wakeups, I know how frustrating it can be, so big
Rainy - Sounds like BH to me as well. I dont think you have anything to worry about, but if it gets worse maybe call the hospital/doula?
Nella - So sorry to hear your news hun.
Trillian - Wow that is a good thing that Alister is right into his swimming. Its also a bit scary that he has no fear of water iykwim, better watch that one hehe. What a little monkey.
Andie - Good for you for making a final decision. Sounds like your ex doesnt know what he wants? I guess you have decided that he is wasting your time.
Need some advice girls, is anyone still having a bit of pain/discomfort during sex? I'm dissapointed that its not like it used to be, pre baby, is this normal? Is it meant to be different? I'm just not comfortable with dtd anymore, its no fun for me, just me gritting my teeth. I did tear a bit & had stitches & I wonder if its all in my head sorta thing. Does anyone have the same problem!?
Also when do toddlers stop using bottles for their milk? M still has a bottle and I'm wondering if that could be part of the problem of her night wakings for the bottle. Does anyone use a sippy cup for milk now? We have decided to bite the bullet big time & do whatever it takes to get rid of this night time feed. We know she doesnt need it, its just a bad habit now. All I want is a full nights rest!!
Home alone tonight, DP flew to Adelaide for work today, but back tomorrow night. Thank god because I hate being alone in the house
Katie:
felt like a huge weight has lifted. was the best thing I have felt in a long time. felt so free, confident & happy.
How did swimming go?
Ps. all the best!
Arte:
thanks.
hugs. hope W settles down soon enough for you.
Noni:
all the best for your nuchal scan this wkend.
Nella:
Thanks. for the bfn
Rainy:
has been interesting today. he wants to know what wld it take to make me happy & i was like WTF do I say to that, cos I am feeling happy! I think he has finally realised I was serious bout time running out. He has actually been talking to me to today bout his probs, has taken this long, & me being the nice person I am, am tying to help him. He tells me something, I ask why or how or stuff like that, make him think & answer on his own.
Could be your body preparing.
Trill:
Damn on the computer's tanty's. What if you took the casing off the box & directed a fan on it? Am wondering if the internal fan is actually working properly.
Sounds like you have been busy, & have had some interesting times lately.
Wish Alex was like A with swimming. Put him in the toddler pool, no worries jumping in & wat not, take him into the deeper pool, & he tries to send mummy to her grave!
Thanks Trill, I think I have given him something to think about. Am kind of curious as to what he is going to come back with now that he has realised what is happening.
Hayley:
It did feel like he was wasting my time & then he wanted more time. I told him that he will fail & he will realise when its too late but like every other time I tell him something, & it always turns out that I was right, he didn't listen. When we are face to face I can read him like an open book, & I still know him pretty well. Just had to put my mental health first, for the sake of me & the boys.
Jack still has a bottle, everynite & on the odd occasion in the morning like if he wakes at 5am-ish. He uses cups or pop-top bottles through out the day. Have you tried replacing the nite time milk with water?
AFM:
Walking through town this morning, realised that I was walking taller than normal, & felt more confident & gueine (sp?) happy. It felt great. Not to say that I've turned my back on him forever, as I would like to see what he has to say & if the path goes that way, there will be conditions like marriage counselling etc.
Other than last nite's conflict, I have had two really good days. Went to the pool yst with my friend & her visitors & then we spent the afternoon having a gas-bag then today I spent the day with my friend (after saying by to her visitors) & then this arvo, we played with our tarot cards & did readings with diff decks to see what they would come up with, & each one was interesting.
i'm off to bed now & hoping that jack won't stir again (had twice in the last hour) .. nite ladies .. hope we all have good nite sleeps xox
geez guys i forgot just how chatty this little group is haha..
finally got the results from ashas stool sample and it was completely clear, dioreah for 4 weeks and nothing! the dr has told us to take her off dairy products for 5 days and see if theres a difference and if its not that she has to be tested for celiacs, im hoping its dairy tho i really dont want her to have to get a blood test!!
Ashas been back to driving me crazy since weve been home, she gets bored so easily, its hard when all i want to do is lay on the lounge all day! house is disgusting too floor is desperate for a mop, especially where asha eats eeeeeek its so gross but i just have no energy its awful!! on top of that ashas decided she dosnt want to sleep! she woke last night at 2:30 for an hour and then at 5 decided it was time to get up.. i managed to get her back to sleep at about 6 but she woke again at 7:30 grrrrr!
andie - glad your feeling so great in your decision and having some much needed time out with ur friends
mm - i dont personally have any discomfort during dtd but perhaps its where u tore? u might have a little scar tissue thats being rubbed against.. have u talked to ur gp or health nurse maybe theyll have some suggestions for u?
rainy - we did gymberoo (and are hoping to go back soon) its really good, asha was always better behaved afterwards and slept better because shed burnt off so much energy, it is a bit expensive tho coz u have to pay upfront and not by the lesson... i cant believe u look over the warburton ranges lol we should met up!! yep we stayed in warburton at my friends place its so beautiful there im really jelous!
trill - yep my bf knows about the baby shes the first person i told after dp lol shes very excited.. thats so cute A jumping into the pool lol asha is very funny around the water very serious lol takes a bit to coax her in..
thanks for all the good luck wishes for the scan, im very nervous about it lol always get nervous before scans!!
anyway better go and decide what on earth i am going to do with this child today so we dont both go insane!!
well hopefully my computer wont crash like it has been doing all morning...
Andie: good on you for taking the big leap. no doubt the relief in itself of taking a decision has been the cause of you walking taller and with determination YAY!!!
Noni: good luck with the scan! oooh so exciting! Asha sounds like leila ATM. she is sooo hard to keep entertained. my grandfather asked if she was hyperactive the other day...arrghhhhhh, please dont give me something else to get paranoid about! LOL!
Rainy: hope the cramps have eased a bit. but, on the positive side your body is getting ready and by the sounds of it, labour may not have to start from scratch IYKWIM. pave the way baby LOL! love the pics BTW on FB...
MM: yeah i am certain that the peth was the trigger for the pnd. within 20 minutes of having it, i felt lost. it was strange. so for the next time around no peth. in fact after reading that gorgeous home birth story of louisa dawn i may even go down that path!
as for the pain when DTD...tricky one, i had a couple of stitches and yeah for months the pain was pretty bad where they were. there was a thread on here about it awhile ago...cant remember where though...but i do believe that some of it can be psychological. i know that i would get tense beforehand and the thought of the pain and that didnt help either. i recommend the very unsexy (LOL!) use of lube for awhile just so you can have a bit more fun and not feel too much of the pressure on the scar area IYKWIM. this worked for us...
leila uses her sippy cup for the milk most times. when she is really tired i give her a bottle as it seems to comfort her more though.
arte: i think i may have some idea of what you must go through every night. L was up a million times last night. i tried to not give her panadol last night (she had it the last two for teething) but alas, the molar that is taking FOREVER to come through has been giving her a really hard time. bonjela did the trick last night. we were up every 20 minutes until 1.30am. and of course she then slept soundly and there i was wide awake until 3am . sat on the verandah and watched the wind the trees...
AFM: well as i mentioned to Arte, horror night here last night. L's getting a molar through and the horrid thing is taking ages to come. it's just sitting there swelling her gums like crazy. she has a major nappy rash happening too which isnt helping and my daughter dislikes the heat and being 39 degrees today is not helping. luckily it is a kindy day and they are having a water play day so she will LOVE it!
i need some hints on how to recover from sleepless nights (us that is! LOL!). do you guys try to rest up during the day or just go to bed earlier the next night? i ask because i am worried that if i have a nap today i wont be able to sleep again....
also, L is ALMOST weaned!!! we are down to one boob after dinner. she dropped the morning one while i was in toowoomba with her!!! i am soo happy that i havent had to force her too much (ie, i just created conditions where she didnt have a chance to ask). and now the night boob is really more for my benefit. i know that i could push the issue and have her drop this one, but ATM i am happy with where we are.
Noni:
fingers X'd its just dairy.
hope you get some rest.
Clare:
I don't have day time naps unless I am sick, otherwise I wake up feeling worse & crankier.
Gr8 news on the "weaning". I think you should take it at your own pace & what you are comfy with too.
AFU:
Took the boys to the pool this morning, knew they were gonna have a restless day. Was planning on taking them outside but yeah, Tracey asked if we wanted to go to the pool. Alex thought it was great having Matthew there & Jack is getting more courageous but still very unsure. He ended up taking himself out & sitting on the bench.
Clare - Sorry to hear you had a horror night, those molars are the worst! I hope it has finally come through? I am the same with giving too much panadol, but lately we have found Brauers teething relief to work wonders. Wow thats scary about the pethadine, have you done any further research into it to see if there have been similar reports? I might try the sippy cup milk thing. Yay for L being almost weaned! As for recovering from sleepless nights, I sometimes try to have a nap in the arvo when M naps & I am fine with sleeping that night. However most times I am naughty & rush around cleaning, cooking etc while I can iykwim. Last night I knew I was going to be in for a rough night with M (due to cutting out the bottle) so I went to bed early at 8.45pm. Sure enough when she woke at 3.30am I did not feel so sleep deprived, it was great. So I think early nights do wonders, especially when you know that you will be in for a rough night. Must admit most of the time I am so sleep deprived lol, the other day at work I had to have a berocca & a coffee to wake myself up. Most days I get around like a zombie hehe.
Andie - Glad you & the boys enjoyed your day at the pool. I've tired replacing the milk bottle with water, but no way she wont take it lol.
Noni - Let us know how A goes after her dairy free diet, I wonder if thats it? How do you do dairy free when it comes to their bottle of milk?
Well last night M woke at 3.30am demanding her bottle, so I tried all the tricks in the book, water in sippy cup, cuddles & I'm trying to introduce a special blankee that may hopefully take the place of the bottle for comforting. She whinged on & off for a couple of hours, with me only going into the room when she worked herself up. When I told her 'no bot bot' WHOA she hit the roof. So eventually it got to 6am and I got her up and gave her the bottle, as I'd be happy for her to wake around that time instead of 3.30am. So tell me the truth and I being mean? I felt so terrible I wanted to give her the bottle but I kept telling myself no dont do it. DP wasnt here last night but he always says just give it to her she will grow out of it. What do you reckon? Should I stick it out for a few weeks or should I just give her the bottle? I am just so tired these days & wishing she would sleep through.
MM- I don't think you are being mean. As you say it is just a comfort/habit thing now. Sleep and sanity is very important. I was amazed at how quickly DD dropped night feeds with a bit of help from us. Sure, it took a few nights of pacing the halls and offering cuddles for a couple of hours, but the hard work was well worth it when she started sleeping through. I think it took 3 nights, but that was when she was about 9 months. As M is older i would think it will take a bit longer. But i think the key is persistance. Once you make the decision to do it you need to stick by that decision, IYKWIM. Might be easier to do when your partner is home though so you have some support. Good luck! Oh and what is s#x btw??? If it is still painful i'd be inclined to go for a check up. Are you using plenty of lube?? Is that a bit personal?! I find (or rather found, when i was actually up for it) I was dryer than usual and needed a bit of extra lubrication or it hurt. Sorry for the overshare!!!! rofl
Nonie- L has an intolerance to lactose. She had constant diarrhea, and screamed blue murder when i gave her cows milk. It gave her tummy pains. Dr suggested to me to cut out lactose for a week to see if there was any change and then if that didn't work cut out dairy. That way i could differentiate between an intolerance to protein or one to lactose. I gave her lactose free milk and she was much better. She can tolerate yoghurt and cheese but just not milk. Not sure why i shared that whole story! But maybe there is something in there for you.
Clare- i try and sleep in the day, but my house is seriously a disater zone and i am no way near ready for a new baby so i try and get it sorted when DD is asleep. I would sleep in the day if i was you! i sympathise with the molar, we are still struggling with all 4 atm. I'm about over it i tell ya!
L has developed some major seperation anxiety issue at bed time. She wants us to sit with her while she goes to sleep. I don't mind, as long as it doesn't take 3 hours like last night!!!! Tonight was ok, only half an hour. Hope this is just a phase.
Sorry ladies, that is about all i have the energy for tonight, pathetic i know.
hey everyone,
god i woke up at 5 when asha did and it was already hot!! im actually sweating as i type this but it just seems wrong to turn on the air con at 8:30 in the morning!!!
falguni - thats really interesting that she can have dairy but not milk.. A dosnt really drink milk so it cant be that unfortunately for us... hope L slept well for u last night Ashas like that too needs us there when she falls asleep..
MM - atm shes having rice milk in her bottles you can buy soy formula tho if need be.. Asha dosnt sleep thru either but she dosnt have a night bottle.. you may find she still wakes anyway.. does she go straight back to sleep with the bottle? if she does id just keep giving it to her but im a bit lazy when it comes to things like that lol...
andie - sounds like u had a good time at the pools, i was thinking about taking asha today but it looks like dp hasnt been paid properly so ill have to wait...
cassius - lol @ the hyperactive comment.. Asha is one of those kids thats really affected by sugar lol you just have to see her behaviour without it to know its not a good idea haha
ah, i see that we are not the only ones dealing with the dreaded molars! i realised that L has got two coming through. they are just sitting there. none have broken through yet. but last night she slept and was panadol free so fingers-crossed it just nicely pops out for us
Noni: turn the air con on girl!
Ange: yeah i have been going for an afternoon nanna nap but find i cant sleep at night. luckily L the last 2 days has a morning nap so i go back as well for 30 minutes (i spend the other time also doing the mad dash around the house trying to pick up the various assortment of toys/clothes/food that leila has left around...does it ever end?! LOL!)
MM: a few girls that i have mentioned the effect of the pethidine (ie not taking away pain but sending us gaga) have had similar experiences so i dont know. maybe it works for some but not for others?
i think you are on the right track with M re the bottle. it is hard for the first few nights but they learn really quickly that there is no point in waking up and asking for it. hang in there for at least a couple of days more and see if there is some improvement IMO.
AFM: all good here. i am trying desperately to overcome my 'twilight' addiction. so far unsuccessful LOL! Leila is trying to drop one of her sleeps so ATM as i write i have a crazy baby on my hands. she woke up at 12 and has been going non-stop since. What time do your bubs have their sleeps? are they on one or two sleeps a day??
we gave leila some apple granita today and OMG the child went beserko. loved it! i have to admit mummy also found it rather refreshing...
her new dolly has also been getting a work out. she is really trying to mimick all the things we do with her. but the big favourite is getting us to swaddle dolly for her. for some reason it is the bestest thing in the whole world for Leila...who knows!
Hi ladies, back online...will try to catch up over the next day or so. Did start a post with personals but then DH was playing with the wireless router and then the computer ate my post! Now it's too late to do it all again BUT at least I'm back on ADSL again.
MM - still had probs with painful DTD after DD1 (massive tearing, bad scars, etc) but mine got better-ish after having some vaginal oestrogen (yep you read that right, pills for your fanny) so probably worth seeing your GP and asking for a gyno referral. Even IF it is "in your head" (google vaginismus - yep it's a real condition, BTDT too) the gyno will be able to treat you for that too. xxx
Feral toddler - yep got one here. PP Miss E also pinches, pokes, slaps and hits me too. Esp when I'm feeding her...not too sure how long we'll be BFing if this keeps up. Best thing is to speak calmly and try not to reward the behaviour by paying attn to it. Easier said than done when you're about to be de-eyeballed by a toddler finger. LOL xxx Hang in there.
Trill - pleased that you're getting good results on your meds - hope it continues and you get it fixed once and for all. Sorry to hear you haven't been in a good headspace. Hope you got my txt on your birthday - I was thinking of you. xxx
Ok better go, it's getting late and I've got a big day doing the Ikea stomp tmrw! Loving being HOME again, OMG I just can't tell you how unbelievably good it is being here. We've got way too much stuff to fit into this house (E is tripping over her toys, no space anywhere) so guess what I'll be doing for the next month or so! Already got my stall booked at the kids and baby markets - gonna SELL SELL SELL my baby gear and make bags of $$$ . Well that's the plan anyway. Still haven't seen AF but what are the chances? About a zillion to 1? Right?
LOL MD, that is tempting fate if you sell all your baby gear while awaiting AF's arrival lmao! Good to see you back online, glad you are enjoying being home. How is your liver?
Clare, W has one sleep a day, it is hopefully around 11ish. So cute about wanting her doll wrapped. W keeps pushing up his sleeves and when I ask them what he has done to his sleeves he points at them and says 'Dada' - DH always pushes his sleeves up and I think W is being a copy cat. They are at such an adorable age!
Ange, 3 HOURS!!!! I would have gone mental!!!! I have enough Zen for one hour of bedtime monkey, then I get very cranky - DH cops it when I finally get out of the bedroom lol
Going to attempt camping tonight, wish me luck!
Last edited by Artechim; January 16th, 2009 at 04:39 AM.
selfish post here guys sorry..
Asha is driving me bananas, it sounds mean but she just wont leave me alone! she never plays with her toys, or hardly ever shes just forever getting into things ive told her not to doing the same thing ive told her not to over and over and over it drives me nuts! every day is the same with her dp leaves, she cries and then she starts with the mischief.. i know she misses him coz hes just gone back to work after two weeks holidays but i seriously cant cope with her!! im sooo drained and tired this preg and my temper is very short.. i feel so grumpy all the time, even when i am paying attention to her shell do something like throw something at me or hit me etc.. grrrrrrr..
anyway i know its all normal just wanted to have a winge!! bbl when ive calmed down
Hayley:
what milk do you give her: full cream, formula or breast?
Noni:
what did you work out to do with Asha today? Once i am finished here I'm going to get the boys dressed & take them outside for a play. Then after they have thier nap we're gonna head to town to get out of the hot house we are going to have this arvo.
i hear ya hun! .. i've been noticing the boys are like that lately .. i have worked out, i have to keep them active. Are you able to go to the pool today or to safe place where she can run around & play (& u can sit back & watch her, whilst trying to relax)??
hun I am sorry to hear your news.
hehe. What a little monkey.
. sat on the verandah and watched the wind the trees...
If it is still painful i'd be inclined to go for a check up. Are you using plenty of lube?? Is that a bit personal?! 
Now it's too late to do it all again BUT at least I'm back on ADSL again. 
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