Babies Born ~ April 2013 #1

Goooood morning ladies!!

Hope you are all doing well!! Sorry I have been so quiet... had a busy week with appointments and the curriculum day on Friday so was out and about a lot!

happymum- hope things are improving for you....!

Beatrix- Oh B..... so sorry that you went through that... change GPs!!!!!! Oh Glad you have finally had a good night!!! :D If it continues maybe you can stop the meds and see if it's that or not!?

DB- Eleni has lots of little pimples on her face too....GP just said it would go away on it's own and that they are just immature pours...?! Glad the Logan is being good to you!!

Willow- thanks for the tip with the apricot oil...will have to get some... I rub Almond oil on DD1 and that works great, but am reluctant to use it on Eleni just yet! Oh I'm so genuinely sorry you are having a tough time :( It's so hard when they don't sleep during the day, then carry on at night also.. DD1 was like that!



As for us... we are well.... Eleni is growing heaps and the 000 sleep suits with the feet in them don't fit anymore!!!!...such a boob monster! hahaha

She feeds 3-4hrly still during the day, cluster feeds at night and will go 4-5 hrs at night! so I'm happy with that!!... She is trying to stay awake much more during the day now, but mostly is happy to lay in her bed and relax until she falls asleep! Although we also have our moments, thankfully they are few and far between!

last night she went to sleep at 9:30pm-2:30am (i leaked a little) then fed on one side then went back to sleep until 7am!!! When I woke her by changing her nappy because she's done a poo AND I HAD LEAKED EVERYWHERE!!!!! so I had to get her to feed!!! So was VERY impressed with my little girl even though now I have to wash my Pjs and sheets!!!!! :doh: can't win! Then she fed and went to sleep at about 8am (did school run) and she just woke up at 10:15am for a feed! Fed again and now she's laying in her bed... I wonder how long that will last!!?!? This is usually when she likes to have a lot of her awake time... between now and about 1:30pm, but I really good do with some time to do some housework right now!

Last Thursday we had our first set of vaccinations!... all good.. no reactions or anything so we are happy! She only cried a little when the first one went in, then she was fine!

off to wash my sheets now... but nothing will dry down outside today! :/

Beatrix glad things are improving :D Kinda sux when you don't know exactly what did it but who cares really just enjoy it! :D

Harri sounds like a dream baby! :) My DS2 was like that just so chilled hardly ever cried just contented and slept well from day one :D Wow out of 000s already! We are only just into them now. What does Eleni weigh and measure? I used the Apricot oil for perineal massage when I was pg. I got the Melrose brand apricot kernal oil from the health food shop in the mall. It's good for massage as well not too greasy and very gentle so no drama to use in the bath or bub :)

All was well at the 6 week check. Stats are 5610gms, 58cm long and 38cm HC. I'm slack haven't had her weighed since 2 weeks so that's a gain of 1620 in 4 weeks, length increase of 6cm and HC 1.6cm
We had the check at the GP so the nurse weighs and measures then you see the doc for the rest. She's on the 50th percentile for HC, the 75th for length and 97th for weight. The nurse said good work mum, but the doc said if it keeps up she's overweight so watch her :( I was a bit put off by that after only one high weigh. She asked did I have GD or diabetes geez I think that's a bit overcautious at this stage :o
She did seem to think she has reflux but said because she's gaining and it's not every feed she suggested trying elevating for sleeps, small frequent feeds etc Then asked me how much she was taking each feed, um hard to tell when breast feeding, then she said 'Oh yeah' hmmm not sure how confident I am with this GP, not for babies anyway. She said if all the elevating, smaller frequent feeds etc don't help, to get the children's Gaviscon from the chemist and try it first before anything on script. She said because it seems mostly just once a day not every feed it might work to give her that at that one time of day, which I guess makes some sense. She also said it's not recommended for babies under 12 months but to give her a half dose. It has to be dissolved in her milk though, I still can't find my pump and have no idea if she'll take a bottle, if she won't then that won't work.

I'll post a pic soon to see if you girls think she's looking overweight I don't :(

Willow - My ex-dr told me BD1 was obese (yes he used that word) at 5 weeks old. I was so upset. It's not as though she was out eating junk food. She was 4.35kg and 56cm born and had normal growth. She had so many rolls. Simply gorgeous. I never went back to that clinic. How can a newborn be overweight? They are all different. A lot depends on birth weight. If your baby is feeding well and gaining weight then that's the goal. What do these types of drs want you to do? Start depriving them of milk so they don't gain as fast?? You're obviously doing a great job of feeding and your baby is thriving.

Overweight??? WT??!?!?! What is wrong with these Drs?????

I'm not sure what she weighs and measures at the moment... I do have scales here at home, next bath I will weigh her..I always forget and she's in the bath when I remember!! :rolleyes: I don't think it's a weight issue with the clothes... more the length of her legs!! The suits with feet in them are too short, if you know what I mean!

I want to see a pic of her Willow!!! :D

Thanks girls.

That's what I thought DB!! No way I'd be not feeding her when she's hungry! I asked her if you actually have overweight breast fed babies, she said yes. Then she asked me if I'd had diabetes or GD, also if I had a normal delivery. So I assume if I had high BSL I could be making her gain too much. Not sure what the type of delivery I had has to do with it and didn't think to ask. Georgia was 3.6kg and 51cm born so not tiny, not huge.

Harri I know what you mean about the legs! I put two different suits on Georgia today and took them off because she couldn't straighten her legs out, they seemed ok everywhere else, snug but ok.

Ok I've uploaded some pics, a couple from a week or so ago and some from today. Ok so she does have chubby cheeks, a full belly and two chins lol But I wouldn't have thought overweight. My DS2 was much chubbier than her, and he had rolls too, so cute, but I still would have said healthy. I think they may be getting carried away with weight watching if they think Georgia is over weight. She has had a spurt the last couple of days so maybe she's doing the growing out out before up and the chins will stretch out once the length has it's go :)

Here's the album :)
Both suits she's in are 000s

I could understand if you had GD maybe.... but really she looks perfect to me!! Absolutely too cute!!!! :loveshower:

I think Eleni may have chunkier legs but not as big a belly... need to take a nudie shot of her!! lol

Willow- she's perfect!

Zoe I also in the 97th percentile for weight and height an the dr did not once mention to me she was over weight.

It's been two weeks since I weighed her so thinking I might stop in and weigh her today

And now I have forgotten everything anyone else had said due to being on phone and not seeing other replies.

I kinda spat it at DH last night. I'm just tired and my back hurts from a day of constant feeding and not wanting to be put down again. His offer for help are tiny and the second after he says something he is snoring again. I just wish she would sleep in her bed. Yes she is sleeping for 3 he periods but they are on or next to me which make the sleep terrible and I end up in uncomfortable position on a inch of the bed.

Well last night my back couldn't take any more holding so she ended up in her bassinet. After some time and unfort some crying (even with me patting g her and singing to her) she did eventually sleep for 3hrs!! And after her feed resettled back in there with some jiggling of it!! So wasn't in my bed all night. Right next to me and I could reach and see her though.
Feel bad cause I love her cuddles but must admit it was so nice.

Now this morning after a 4 hr sleep she seems to want to play not eat.

Beatrix- that's awesome,well done!.... Not that any of us like to listen to the crying of our babies, sometimes it can't be helped!! Is she much more settled now...?? not and cranky??

Harri- to be honest she is completely hit and miss, what works once for her doesn't work the next time. I am close to the end of my tether with her.

DH is a great guy but useless, needs to be told what to do and when to help and I want to hit him over the head with a shovel. Not to mention all the other stuff going on in our lives atm, we have finally got a date for BILs funeral which is friday, but DH still needs to meet with funeral director again and the celebrant performing it.. plus BILS affairs ned to start being sorted out. Its just nuts and im ready to break. :(

It sure is difficult when they aren't predictable!!...Not much you can do, just do whatever seems to work at the time for you both!... So the meds are or aren't working??

ahhhh DHs... well...... same here too... and then when I tell him what to help me with he either says yes but doesn't do it so I do it myself, or gets cranky that I'm bossing him about! :rolleyes: all he can think about is doing the do.....AND that is the LAST THING I want to think about right now... I have given in a couple times though!... Then by the time I get to sleep she's up in 2hrs for a feed!!

So I had a coffee this morning to "wake up" well maybe that was a mistake as now she's struggling to get to sleep!! :shakehead: Decaf for me from now on....*sigh*

Hopefully once the funeral is over with things will slowly be less hectic for you all and you can get back to "normal" life! :hug: Hang in there, it IS going to get better.

Has anyone thought about when they are going to start solids?? I stared DD1 at 4 months and she loved it! will most likely start Eleni at 4 months also.

....oh she's gone quiet... hope she's gone to sleep!!

Im a real slacker at posting in this thread but I do read it every day.

I feel bad because Wilder is a pretty good baby so I dont really have anything interesting to share and I know your all having sleep issues so me coming in to say he slept 9pm-5am seems rude :redface: We survived our 6 week needles, he is growing well and over the 4kg mark now - which seems huge for us because he was so tiny born but really he is barely bigger than some newborns still lol

I cant believe that we are all heading for the 3 months mark, seems like just yesterday we were sitting at the 12wk of pregnancy mark thinking time was dragging along slowly :)

You could never be rude!! I'm so happy that after all you went through you have a good sleeper!!! :clap:

Hi Freya - I'm glad everything is going well with Wilder. Logan was 4.6kg born. Lol. He is a big boy. Long and gorgeously chubby... although he has skinny legs like my DH. Lol. We have immunisations on Friday the check-up. He has grown out of some his 000 clothing. He couldn't stretch his legs out in one outfit today so I had to retire it.

What does everyone do with their outgrown items? Logan is our last baby so we don't need to keep anything. I'll keep one or two really nice items as keepsakes/to reminisce. My friends had their children years ago so I don't have anyone to hand them down to.

Beatrix that's what Georgia is, consistently inconsistent :wall: one minute something works the next it doesn't. Just when you think you've got it, NOPE! :wall:

Freya I was going post today to ask how you were going. Yay for a good sleeper you had a rough preg so I'm glad you got an easy bub :D Don't no post we still want to hear what's happening with you guys! Great growing too :D

DB I have plenty of people to hand down too so don't have an issue there, I might keep a couple of things for sentimentality's sake though :)

We've had two relatively quiet evenings where the usual screaming is. I'm wondering if it is food related now. The 3 nights before we had screaming and I tried to think what I had eaten and all three days I'd had sausages. Yes three days in a row lol I didn't have pg cravings but am having post natal cravings! Tea and toast and cold sausages, not together haha. So then yesterday and today no sausages and no screaming. Maybe coincidence but I'll make a mental note and see what the next few days bring.

Does anyone know how long it takes for what you eat to effect your milk and get to them?

No idea willow.

I'm close to breaking point. I have never had a baby like this before and I'm over it. Buying a tin of formula tomorrow. I don't expect it to make her sleep through but I need a night away from her. As horrible as it sounds I'm just not coping with everything being so out of wack. I need some sort of order in my life.

Gonna take a break from BB too and thinking of deactivating fb.

Hope everyone else is well and when I come back things are better.

Beatrix - My BD1 was mostly formula fed. You should do what you need to do. Everyone has an opinion on 'what's best' but you're her Mum and you know what's bet in your situation. I hope everything goes well and you come and visit here again soon.

Willow - a couple of days ago I read that what you eat today will be in your breast milk tomorrow. I don't know how accurate that information is. I read it in a parenting magazine.

Thanks DB.

Beatrix I hope you get some respite and things get a bit easier :hug: Hope to hear from you soon :)

Beatrix- Oh luv! :comfort: we will miss you, but you do what's best for yourself and bub!! Don't worry or stress about the formula!... I used to supplement DD1 at night also!!.... I hope that you get the rest you need!! Wish I could come and help you!...

willow- I think it depends on what it is.... liquids are quicker than solids.... so it takes longer for food to effect your milk, than drinks...

I found this online just before...: "...........because there are so many variables involved, including how often you nurse, the type of food you eat, and your individual body chemistry and metabolism. An average (and this is only an average) is about 4-6 hours, but it can reach your milk as soon as one hour or take as long as twenty-four hours."

sending you the link for the site!

DB- not sure if I'm finished baby production yet, so I am holding onto things for the moment! You could always sell on Ebay?!

omg!!! DS3 was a crap sleeper, wouldn't be put down, fed every hour or two for months and months, wouldn't settle for anyone except me it was hard HARD work. Georgia is much the same, although she will at least settle for others most of the time, but, I could always put DS3 in the ergo to get things done, Georgia, no go, wtf?! She wants to be held but not in the ergo. So that means nothing is getting done. I know I should let stuff go but you have to get things clean at some point :wall:
Today I am so tired and frustrated I want to cry. I'm going to check the WW book and hope this is the start of another WW and it will be over soon :crossfingers: :crossfingers:

Willow- OH NO......! How frustrating, if you could at least wear her and have your arms free then SOMETHING gets done....I am having flash backs of DD1 and putting her on the floor in the toilet so I could actually have a pee!!! I couldn't cook or anything.... really difficult!! :comfort:

I don't even know what to suggest....I'm sure you have tried everything! In the end we had a swing/mobile thing for DD1 and lots of dummies, and that seemed to work enough so I could get 20min or so to DO something!!....

When do they start "working the system" as my DH puts it??...is it 2 months or 3 months?

Yep Harri that sounds like her! DS3 was the same but the ergo worked a treat.

I've just checked the book and we are just coming into the second Wonder Week so that explains her being extra clingy and demanding. Beatrix(if you hapen to be reading) that would explain Zoe as well. It says demanding babies will be even more so and drive us to despair. It also said they want to be close to mum but really clingy babies can't get close enough which is probably why the ergo wouldn't cut it today either.

I'm being called again

Back on the boob now while I type.
We have four or five types of dummies she won't have any of them, and it's not for lack of trying let me tell you! haha We have a my little lamb swing which was a life saver with DS but I need to get it back from my sister, they've had a run of illness so we haven't seen them for a while. I'm hoping she'll like it too, I could get a couple of hours of DS sleeping in it some days :crossfingers:

Working the system? :think:

Oh and Harri your inbox is full :)

I am here reading Willow.

Just was a bad night and moment. Way to much happening. DH was home today (preparing for funeral tomorrow) so we ventured out to the shop and Zoe was great all day. Sleeping and eating fine. Only whinging when tired or hungry. She didn't have muck wake time though today.

Will see how tonight is and yep I saw the other day it was a wonder week.

willow- Georgia sounds like she loves her mummy in a frustrating way lol.

My main issue is I don't get why it's so hard? I mean I should know this. I have done it all before.

Oh and I didn't end up buying formula. It's not something I want to do and her feedin isn't the issue. It's her sleeping but with breast feeding and her having to be held asleep I felt like I was suffocating so I was just over it and I felt if I put her on the bottle I woul at least have a break there

:hug: Bea, its so hard trying to deal with an unsettled baby along with everything else that happens in life, let alone losing your BIL as well. I think your doing a great job coping and want you to remember that your human and your allowed to have bad days! I wish I was closer so I could atleast come and give you some company or an extra set of arms to help settle missy moo.


Well Wilder had his first chiro appointment today and wow - Im a convert! I also loved that the chiro was happy I had him sleeping in a hammock, he highly recommends them and used them for his kids. Always nice to have a medical professional endorse something you do that isnt "mainstream".

Also did some checks today as well seeing as he is 8 weeks old on Tuesday - current weight is 4415g, 57 cm long and 38cm HC. Thats a 415g gain since his weight check last thursday :o thought he was looking a bit chubby lol

Willow- thanks, have cleaned out my inbox! When is the next wonder week?? might be good to know in advance!! HAHA


Well the clingy business could explain Eleni this week too.... being much more so than normal and not sleeping all that much the last couple of days during the day!! A bit of a change to what I was used too!!!

Although we are having good night sleeps.. last night it was 10pm-4am, then 4:30am-8:30am! And I think she only really woke at 4:30am for a huge poo and a quick drink!.....

Freya- great gain for the little man!! :)

Beatrix- glad you are still here with us!!.. I think that it doesn't matter how many times you have done it before, they are all different! :rolleyes:

I LOVE chiro too Freya! :) Still great growing Wilder :D

I've had many bad days like that Beatrix :hug:

Harri this wonder week stormy period runs (give or take) from 7 1/2 weeks to 9 1/2 weeks. The next one after this one is 11 1/2 to 12 1/2 :)

We have another cold here, both DS and Georgia :( I'm wondering if it's the same one come back for round two or a fresh one. Either way I'm not happy about it, especially in conjunction with the WW, and my back is now spasming from 2 nights of having to sleep half sitting up and obviously at a weird angle to keep Georgia happy. She was finally happy to sleep in the ergo yesterday, but that was a mistake for me :wall: I put her in it and made some little pizzas with DS and could hardly move after. I need to get to my chiro!! Feels like I can't win at the moment.

arg.. had written a post, but it disappeared!! got to love that.... NOT!

Willow- Doesn't give you much time between WW!! AND that means another week of this behaviour!... Much more clingy here the last few days, and not sleeping so well at night either... she's up every 2hrs or so last 2 nights, thinking she just wants a feed, but she's only feeding for about 5min (even though she's sucking pretty hard) and then she's in her bed again... But it a little grizzly in between!.... not sure what's going on there... maybe growing pains..maybe WW!... :dunno: maybe she's starting to "work it" during the day... she's not sleeping too much now... she's in her bed crying.... then I go in...distract her and she's quiet for a while.... then she cracks it again..... strange....

I have put DD1s night time music on and that seems to settle her a bit.... until she realises I'm trying to put her to sleep?!.... hmmmmm


Sorry to hear you guys are sick again! :( hope it gets better for you soon!

Harri- lovely when they break habit isnt it?

Willow- hope you are feeling better

Visited the MCHN this morning and got Zoe weighed and measured, She is currently 5.92kg, 39cm HC and 57cm long! Have a dr appointment tomorrow to get her birth mark checked out. She has a strawberry one and I know they usually grow rapidly and hers has tripled in size in two weeks and is partly under the skin too so want to keep a eye on it. Hopefully we are in the 90% of people whose stop growing after 12 months and fade by the time they hit their teens. Its quite large and on her back near her left shoulder, hate to say this but its ugly :( and coming up to summer will cause a lot of stares and questions.

this is it now https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...-2-months-old/ and if you look at the other pic in my album you can see what it looked like 2 weeks ago

I'd say WW Harri, comfort sucking, not wanting to sleep, and wanting company :)

That has grown hasn't it Bea! Hope it's all good, they aren't usually nasty are they? Just not the most attractive. I love that nappy too btw :D

Georgia hardly slept yesterday, only like 10 minute cat naps, drove me even more insane than usual, but then she slept from 10pm until 2.20am!!!!!!!!! Another 2 1/2hrs after that then crap all but I think I got 3 hours and I actually almost feel human today :hooray:

Willow- nope not nasty things.. mainly just unsightly. Lucky as most kids get them on their face and neck so least Zoe's isn't there. Only the ones on their eyes and neck they worry about as they can affect there vision and airways when they grow. Something she inherited from Dh side of the family as both SILS children have them

Nice stretch of sleep!!! fingers crossed it becomes more consistant

Georgia has one on her eye. It doesn't look as red as Zoe's one it's more pink and hasn't grown at all. I'm guessing they are different? Georgia's is more like lots of little blood vessels in one spot.

georgias sounds more like a stork mark...

Zoe's wasnt there at birth whereas stork marks are.

Yep that's it, stalk mark :) Sorry just when you said eye and face I thought of Georgia's. I realised a while later the difference.

That was a beautiful goal!! Awesome playing, real team work :cheer: ...Sorry watching the soccer :lol:

I should get off the computer and write a shopping list so we don't end up with random stuff again this week :wall: Who has healthy quick and one hand prep and eat snack ideas?

Can I just say how sick I am of having a baby who won't sleep anywhere but on me.
I love her but she is extremely hard work.

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Can I just say how sick I am of having a baby who won't sleep anywhere but on me.
I love her but she is extremely hard work.

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Ditto. ...I write this with a sleeping baby on my lap. So tired and wanting to go to bed, but can't find the energy to get up and move.

I have given her to DH and shut myself in my room. I need space :(

Beatrix/Willow- I am so sorry you guys are having a tough time!!.....:comfort: I hope things ease off soon!!

Beatrix- saw the pic of the birthmark... poor little thing, I see what you mean by it doesn't look nice....hope it doesn't hurt her at all! Eleni has 3 birthmarks, but they are small, one on her thigh and one on the side of her belly...they are the pale brown kind. The other one is on her forehead, just hidden by her hairline, it almost looks like a mole, it's a darker brown.


I ordered the WWs book from the UK!.... waiting for it to arrive now!!

Have MCHN today, stats are:

weight- 4.935kg
height- 56cm
HC- 37.5cm

so she's growing well!!....all good here! No other news here... we are still bringing up a whole lot of milk every feed with our burps, and if she doesn't burp at least 4-5 times after every feed she brings up the milk when I lay her down... so it's a bit of a pain!!

Beatrix hope you enjoyed your alone time in your room :)

Harri nice stats :) It's good you've worked out frequent burping help to not loose a whole feed! You'll love the WW book :)

I had one good night the other night Georgia slept in her bed and only woke twice! But yesterday her cold has freshened up and she was miserable then quite upset last night and then woke heaps last night. Poor thing thought her nose is really bothering her :(

Hi. Sorry I haven't been on here much. Things are very hectic here. Logan is growing big and strong. 7 weeks old and weighed in at 6.8kg! Big boy! He is 60cm long now. I'm loving the smiles. He has struggled to stay asleep during the day. However, visitors are to blame for a lot of that. If only mother-in-law would stop laughing like a hyena... and then make comments that he's a fussy baby because she wakes him with her hideous noises.

.... so the broken sleep is making me a bit moody lately.