Babies Born ~ July 1st-15th 2009 #2

[jetta2022]

[QUOTE=lovelycate;2075615]Also, apparently freezing will kill any germies - shove them in a plastic bag and in the freezer overnight or for 24 hours.

Hey lovelycate - I hope you were talking about the toys there and not Isaac or Zac! No, sorry, I just thought it looked funny how you wrote it straight after talking about Zac!!! Sorry, maybe my sense of humour is a bit warped...it really isn't funny... Good advice though, I didn't know that. Would love to see the pics in the SAnta suit!! So cute!

Miss E- totally the same. Sam will be in the shopping centre with me and stay awake for 4 hours but at home, he is only lasting 1 1/2 hours at most. After the 4 hours he was totally over it and I needed to get him sleep asap but yeah, I think the excitement of the hussle and bussle of the shops kept him going. Then the other day in the shops he had a complete nana...and I had to try to feed him to sleep.
Also, no way Sam would survive on two naps. On Sunday, he wouldn't go down for his third nap at all. An hour and a bit later got him up and about 20 minutes after that went abo****ely beserk. We had to give him a bath because feed, dummy, nothing worked. He had a bath and was happy and then I fed him and he started falling asleep on me so I put him to bed. I just know that staying awake for that long makes him really upset so I think it is ridiculous to think they could just have two sleeps. Well, for Sam anyway.

Heva5 - hope things get better with sleeping. Sam is really all over the place too, not the same but I think their sleep really gets effected around this age. He was self settling all week, then back to really fighting it, then self settles again. I am totally with you on the toys though. I would not do that someone else! I just can't imagine walking up to someones mat with toys on it and just start allowing Sam to suck all over someone elses toys. No offence to Isaac but she didn't know if your child had a cold or anything either! But other than that, it is quite rude and I would be just as annoyed as you. I didn't know about the freezer thing, so good tip or the soaking.

Naomi54 - good that you are able to have a whinge. hopefully it helps! I hope things get better and you feel better soon. If you have more than one child, I admire you! It must be full on and you should be really proud of yourself for doing such an amazing job!

SS Storm - Sam is really interested in food now, but I am thinking the same, around Christmas I think or maybe a bit before. We will see. I had a friend who around 5 months said he stopped sleeping through the night and she thought it was hunger so thats when she started. I will see how he goes. Kind of exciting!! They are growing up so fast!!

AFM - work is busy but looking forward to 2 weeks break at the end of the year. My husband has been running the business on his own, so he is really well and truely wanting a break. That will be nice to have him around, as he hates only seeing Sam at the end of the day. He loves the weekend when he sees Sam happy and playing. Trying not to buy too many christmas presents and looking at buying the high chair soon. Just had new dining table arrive which is nice so finally the house is complete now. Sam is rolling more and just being generally lovely!! He has had a few beserk moments lately where he has just gone ballistic. I think it has mainly been when he is over tired and nothing will settle him but I guess that is him just growing and stuff... I just always freak at that something is wrong as he is normally so calm and placid. I am sure it isnt anything serious though.
Anyway, catch up again soon!

[lovelycate]

[QUOTE=jetta2022;2076232]

Also, apparently freezing will kill any germies - shove them in a plastic bag and in the freezer overnight or for 24 hours.

Hey lovelycate - I hope you were talking about the toys there and not Isaac or Zac! No, sorry, I just thought it looked funny how you wrote it straight after talking about Zac!!! Sorry, maybe my sense of humour is a bit warped...it really isn't funny...

nope, you're right, that was quite funny! good lord my brain is very random at the moment.

ss-storm - I was re-reading what you said about changing teat sizes. I wonder if that would be helpful for us? I have kept Zac on the size 1s as they say they're good for combining with BF, but given that any BF we're doing is more comfort sucking than anything else, I suspect it doesn't really matter... I've got some size 2s around, so might give those a go tomorrow and see if that helps him with finishing his bottle - worth a try at least!

[ss_storm]

Oh man..I don't know if her sleep is getting better or worse! Seems to take ages to settle her to sleep, she starts crying as soon as I walk into our room to put her to bed
Can take up to 30-45 mins to get her to actually go to sleep, and she'll either be whingy crying/crying or laughing and chatting and playing with her dummy, or a mix of all. DF keeps telling me to let her cry it out, but I really don't want to do that, distresses her and I know it would get me upset. "oh no...you are teaching her that you'll come running every time she cries...when she is 3 years old and won't go to sleep unless you are there don't come complaining to me..."

FFS I think it is worse for her to cry to herself to sleep all the time! She used to self-settle really well and I'm sure she will again, just takes time and patience, and reassurance that someone is there, not that she is all alone in her cot in a dark room and no one will come to soothe her...All I do is pop her dummy back in and maybe pat her back until she settles again, it's not like she is sleeping on me again or i'm rocking her to sleep, so she can put herself to sleep but sometimes just needs a bit of help. she is a baby, and unlike us she can't just go to bed, close her eyes and go to sleep, she needs to learn how. What's worse is I know he lets her CIO...I've ducked out to the shops a couple of times and she has just gone to sleep but wakes up when I leave and he leaves her to cry herself to sleep. He just doesn't see a problem with it and thinks that is the *only* way to get her to go to sleep by herself. Makes me not want to go anywhere without her because I don't want her to go to sleep from exhaustion, not only that I think it is only creating a fear of the cot, as I said before she starts crying as soon as I walk into the room with her!

Anyway..sorry for the rant, but I know you will understand, no matter what I say to DF he just doesn't get it, or won't listen, one of the two. Which of course then starts another argument

Sorry, once again no personals, I better get off BB and do some work!

[lovelycate]

ss-storm - you poor thing! As if it's not hard enough without having somebody undermining your efforts!

I highly recommend 'the Science of Parenting' by Margot Sunderland. It is based on research into the brains and psychological development of children, and really supports the whole 'gentle parenting' approach. CIO only teaches them to give up and that they can't trust anybody to come and help them. It sounds like what you are trying to do is reassure Hayley that there is someone who cares for her and also you are teaching her how to settle herself. It's not going to be an instant fix, but that's not the way humans work!

Some people seem to have very old fashioned, out of touch with reality, ideas about how to raise a child. FWIW, I think you're doing a fabulous job

[sloane]

ss_storm that must be so frustrating. i dunno if your DF will listen but even advocates of CIO or CC say don't try it before babies are 6 months old. fwiw, DP's SIL went to a sleep school where they practised CC & since then, their baby has been weaned off wrapping but his sleep is still as unpredictable as ever. so i guess it's one of those things that may work for some but doesn't necessarily for others, even on babies that are over 6 months.

jetta - it sounds like you def deserve a break soon!

lovelycate - oooh, are zac's santa pics on facebook? that would be so cute!

naomi54 - ugh, 5am starts are just so wrong, aren't they? i've tried to tell corey that it's not acceptable to be up before at least 6.30 but will he listen?

miss e - i hear you on the conflicting advice! although it does make me really think that whatever works for you is the best thing to do!

heva - those sleep issues sound very similar to what we're going through. did the air con at the shops help?

afm, sleeps are still all over the place. yesterday we went for a 2 hour drive because car trips always seem to get him to sleep & then at least he's had some sort of nap! went to a talk on solids at my MCHN centre today - they advocate BLS/W which is what i was hoping to do so that was really good. i think corey is really getting ready but i'm planning to wait until we hit 6 months.

[sloane]

i finally did corey's birth story...it's verrry long. but i did do a two line short version at the end

[Miss E]

Sarah and Heva I loved reading your birth stories! you inspired me to finally right mine! It can be found here birth story

[ss_storm]

Loved all your birth stories, it's amazing how something like birth can be so different for everyone!
Miss E- are you planning on having more kids and are you going to try for a VBAC? If that's too invasive a question I understand!

Had a shocking night last night..Hayley went to bed as normal at about 6.30, she woke up at 8 so I gave her a feed but she wouldn't go back to sleep until nearly 9. Then was awake at 1am, then 3am when DF came to bed and I gave up and put her in bed next to me, but she still wouldn't go back to sleep until 4, then was awake at 6.30..I made her lie in bed until 7 when I felt half alive!
I just don't know what is going on with her night sleeps...she was sleeping through most nights, from 6.30 to 6.30. I know that is an awesome stretch for a young bub and i didn't mind if she woke up once at 2 or 3am for a feed then went back to sleep, but she keeps waking up about an hour after I put her down for the night and won't go back to sleep... I can't stretch her out a bit longer until 7 or 7.30 either because she gets so cranky and I'm trying to get dinner ready and all those other night time jobs so I can't be there to entertain her and at that point she isn't happy lying on the floor playing by herself, and won't tolerate being in her rocker watching me for too long. I just hope it's another phase and will pass soon and I'll have my good night sleeper again!
Will be an early night for me I think. Got quite a few boxes packed today and weeded the front garden, as well as cleaned up the backyard, got rid of a few stinky old bones and torn up dog toys!

It's been a gorgeous day, took the dog for a walk this morning, and took Hayley outside with me this afternoon to do the garden. I put her down on the picnic rug under the shade of a tree and she had a great time rolling around and staring at the tree! I think we will have to make a few more trips outside as she seems to like it a lot.