Babies Born ~ July 1st-15th 2009 #2

[Miss E]

Miss E- are you planning on having more kids and are you going to try for a VBAC? If that's too invasive a question I understand!

No not at all! Yes I do hope to have another one in a couple of years, but at this stage not too sure about a VBAC. I think I'll probably end up making my mind up when the time comes. I would love to have a natural labour, but at the same time the labour I did experience was pretty hideous because DS was posterior and it was an induction. I know next time it is unlikely to be like that bad because I don't think they would induce me again, but it still scares me a bit. I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

[jetta2022]

SS Storm- I hope the night sleeps are improving. Have you started Hayley on any food at all? Do you think that might help? I have no idea sorry as Sam is my first but just wondered if she is getting hungrier and maybe wants something a bit different? Its nice getting out for a walk though.
In regards to the crying to sleep. We had fairly similar arguements when Sam was first born. My husband was more keen to let Sam cry it out but I didn't want to, he was too young. Then he said well what age will you stop saying that? Good point! But still I agree that they are too little. After 10 or 15 minutes if Sam is still crying I just go up and pat his head and give him a kiss just he knows I am there. I don't rock him anymore (I used to) but it makes me feel better than just being there for that small time he knows that I am there and haven't forgotten him. Mind you, if he is hesterical I then help him calm down and spend more time with him and don't leave him as long. It is hard when you both have different methods of this sort of thing. My husband doesn't like Sam hesterical either so he will go up but he certainly leaves him crying longer than I do. If you go out and you are worried, don't not go out, just remember it is only 1 sleep and the rest of her sleeps will be fine. I just try to think about it that way and in Sam's whole life, he won't remember small pieces like that. As long as you are showering them with love all through the day, one small moment in time won't be what they remember. Well thats what I would think anyway. I hope that helps.
Sam has been self settling more and more, but times that he does cry before sleep, as he gets older I just go a little bit longer each time?? So a few months ago it would be only 5 minutes, then 10 minutes and then 15 or so but as I said before that is just crying or whinging, if he is hesterical I go much sooner. That way I feel that I am trying to help him learn a bit more. Does that make sense? Hope it does!

I am going to read everyones birth stories, I think mine will be rather boring as Sam was breach so we were just booked in for a caesar and away we went!! It was very straight forward so not sure if it is very intersting at all!!

AFM, want to put the Christmas tree up this week, can't wait it is such an exciting time of the year. Sam is self settling a lot now which is great but I am waiting for it all to change. He even woke up at 5am this morning and got himself back to sleep. Hurray! he is rolling more and more now which is great and loving his jumperoo.

Hope everyone else is well, will try and catch up with everyone else later!

[Liviam]

Hi everyone. I was wondering if you minded me joining in? I was in a belly group with a few from in here so it is nice to catch up with everyone. I gave birth a my gorgeous DS on 6th July 2009 so he is 5 months on Sunday. He is our second child. My DD is 2 1/2. William is a big boy (born that way, LOL!!) but not overly interested in doing much except babbling away, blowing raspberries while playing with his feet and doodle. I'm really looking forward to getting to know everyone and reading what all our bubba's are up to.

[Miss E]

Welcome Liviam, looking forward to getting to know you and little ones!

Just wanted to have a bit of debrief. Ash has been having a lot of trouble going to sleep of late so I have decided to start doing the spaced soothing again. We just had so much trouble getting him down for his nap, I went in after 5 minutes and settled him, then ten, then ten again. Finally he went to sleep, but the poor little thing only slept for thirty minutes so I gave him a feed and he slept through that. I've just put him back to bed and am hoping he can sleep a bit longer. It's so hard to not pick him up, he settles very quickly when I come in but the minute I leave the grizzling/crying starts again, it just pulls at your heart strings. Like you Jetta I don't let him get really upset but I still feel so mean.

[naomi54]

Hi Liviam - welcome. Congrats on your little boy!!
Both our kids seem to be the same ages!! Cant wait to catch up!!

AFM: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh a toddler who is difiant and baby who i cant disipher needs/wants/cries and to top off DP and his partner (at work) had a falling out, the partner has just called it quits 3wks before xmas, they are finishing this house off (are painters) and thats it, luckily DP can get work from an old boss of his....but still im sooooooooooo freaking angry right now!!
both kids are REALLY REALLY getting to me, Cam seems to settle down then decides why make life for my mum easy and plays up...having dramas, feeding and sleeping like th rest of you guys.

gotta go, he next to me whingy b/c im not paying attention to him, or something

later guys

btw my birth story is up a while ago....cant remember how to link it here....

[Calluna]

I had a whole post written up, then went to post and it lost it. So I'll do my best to remember what I wrote...

Cate - That's exactly how I feel, it's one thing after another. I tried rolling Isaac on his side this morning and he screamed. lol. I guess he didn't like it.
Hadn't thought of freezing them, I'll give that a shot next time. I've already given some of them back to him so not much point now.

Jetta - Lucky you said something I was just trying to work out how to fit Isaac in a freezer bag as I read your post. (I'm joking of course.)
No offence taken. I had thought about that myself. The boy was about 5, so alot older. Still could have caught something though. I don't think he was chewing the toys given that he was 5 but you never know, I wasn't there
I loved reading the births that went exactly as planned. It helped me to believe in myself and reasured me that I could have the birth I wanted. I did mine for me mostly anyway, and loved recounting it all and found that I actually enjoyed the experience despite being in so much pain at the time. lol. Wierd I know.

SS - :hugs: Maybe you could find some articles about how CC affects babies and give them to your DH to read? Why does he think like that anyway? Was that how he was raised? I don't understand how people can just let their babies CIO, it breaks my heart to hear Isaac cry. Not that I'm judging people that do do it, just saying I never could.
You've really had it rough lately As Cate said your doing a wonderful job, hopefully things get better soon.

Sloane - Our babies were born on the same day
I'm not sure whether the air con helped or not. I think he went to sleep a bit quicker, probably because we were walking around. He didn't sleep for as long though, I don't think, probably because of the noise.

Miss E - You could try staying in the room but not looking at her. Starting of right next to her then gradually moving further away each/ each couple of sleep time/s until your out the door. IYKWIM? It was an idea I heard or read somewhere ages ago. Dunno if it works or not.

Miss E, Sloane - Great stories. I just love reading the birth stories.

Liviam - Welcome Can't wait to hear more about you and your family.

Naomi - big 's

AFM - [vent] Isaac had just gone to sleep after 20 or so mins of crying and squirming then DF who had been doing the housework said I'm gonna do the vacuuming. I asked him to wait until Isaac woke up and he said that I can do it then because he was on a roll and didn't want to stop. I asked why he couldn't just wait and do it when Isaac's awake and he got all stroppy with me and is now walking around the house all huffy at me while he does other stuff. *sigh* 3 times today he's cracked the poo's with me for no reason. Apparently it's too much to ask that we have just one day when one of us isn't grumpy or upset about something. [/vent]

Had a fairly decent sized breakdown in the parents room at the shops yesterday. Just so over the living arrangements, having no money, feeding and sleep problems with Isaac, etc. Probably not the best time or place for it but I felt much better after getting everything out
We got home at about 4pm and I was exhausted so I layed down in bed with Isaac for a feed and a nanna nap. I only got woken up when DF came in to go to bed at about 10:30 So I gave Isaac a quick top up feed, changed his nappy and put his pj's on. He slept through all of this, so I put him to bed and went back to bed myself. He woke up at 2 and 4 am, had a feed and went back to sleep both times. Then didn't wake until 7am. Must have been nackered. I'm thinking he didn't sleep very well at the shops.

He's been sleeping fairly well today, I think he's getting overtired and that's why he's not feeding and settling properly. I'm trying to notice the very first tired signs and put him to bed as soon as I do. I'm also going to try the feed, play, sleep routine instead of waiting until he seems hungry because he's usually getting tired by this point too. It worked well for the first sleep this morning, second sleep I was in the shower when he was getting tired and DF doesn't really know what to look for until he's overtired, so didn't put him to bed. Then third sleep I was writing up (and loosing) my post on BB and didn't realise he was getting tired (oops, bad mummy). So next playtime I'm going to be much more attentive.

[ss_storm]

Jetta- nope we haven't started food yet, will do that after Christmas I think. I don't think she is waking up because she is hungry though, she doesn't seem any hungrier than normal. i think she's just going through a crappy sleep period! She was better last night although she didn't go to sleep properly until about 8. Slept until 3am when I was trying to roll her off her tummy as she was right down the end of the cot lying sideways and looked a bit stuck..plus i don't really want her sleeping on her tummy just yet.
No birth story is boring! I think it's amazing how everyone's story is so different, not one birth is the same!

Welcome Liviam! Good to see you around, have been wondering how you are going. I think all the mums with more than kid are amazing, I am so tired and flat out all the time with just one! I guess you just learn to cope though, but you do a great job.

Miss E- I hope Ash's sleeping gets better...Hayley has gone back to short day sleeps again too. She was having two to three one hour sleeps a day, sometimes she would have a 2 - 2 1/2 hr sleep which was great (for me!). but now she is back to 3-4 sleeps a day. Once she wakes up I cant get her to go back to sleep as she just lies there giggling and smiling at me. Lol. i do that with getting her to sleep too, I can't stay in the room with her as she just looks at me and doesn't even look like going to sleep.

Naomi- sounds a bit crazy at your place at the moment, I hope both your boys settle down for you soon! Do you have any family or friends close by that could mind either one of the boys, or both of them just for a couple of hours so you can take a break?
Your poor DP too, that's not much notice, especially right before Christmas. Very bad timing!

Heather- I can't believe some random kid would start playing with Isaac's toys! Some people sure are weird..I never knew about freezing toys either, although I don't think I could fit any in our freezer, we only have the fridge freezer which is not very big and usually stuffed to the brim!
That's so annoying with the vacuuming, although I would love it if my DF picked up the vacuum cleaner occasionally...he has trouble picking his clothes up off the floor... I do hate it when his phone goes off though, of course it's always just when I've put Hayley to bed and he has the most annoying ringtone- it's a police siren, which is really loud so wakes her up every time. If the ringing doesn't wake her up it's him talking on it (because you know when you are on a mobile you have to talk 5 times as loud...).
Yay for your big afternoon nap though, you must have felt refreshed after that! Poor little mite must have been tired!

AFM we went to visit Santa today!! He had a real beard too. Hayley was great, did a few huge smiles and started chatting away to Santa! She was so cute. We can pick the photos up on Saturday so I can't wait for that.
Our moving plans have been moved forward, we are now going over tomorrow to sign the lease and pick up the keys, and we'll start moving stuff on Friday and hopefully by the end of the weekend we'll be all done. Not looking forward to the cleaning, packing and unpacking I don't mind and actually enjoy most of it. I just don't know how I'm going to get the cleaning done with Hayley.
Will post some photos of the house on Facebook, i can't believe how nice it is, it's on a huge block with fenced front and back yards so tons of space, and it's only $250 a week! Which will be cheaper than where we are now as it's going up to $270/week. A house like that in Wagga we would probably be paying close to $400/week for it. I think we would be stupid not to move!

[Fleur]

Have been reading & not posting

Storm, good luck with the move this weekend it will be so good to be moved & settled in for Christmas.

Heather what a big sleep! you must have both needed it! It's good to get it all out sometimes I dont think it mattes too much if you're in the mothers room... you know most of them have 'been there' too

Naomi what a bummer about your DH's work hopefully something else even better will come up....

MissE good luck with the spaced soothing, hope that starts working soon - and with a minimum of fuss

Hi Liviam & welcome good to have you with us!

Jetta that's awesome that Sam is self-settling so well! We haven't got our tree up yet, I have to work out where to put it first! hopefully this weekend.

AFM I have a cold or tonsillitis or something & she doesn't get it, sore throats are horrible for babies when they can't tell you what's wrong but so far so good ...
Arlea is great, she had her 4 mth needles on Friday & was fine, no huge weight gain but I have given up watching her gains, she LOOKS very healthy & normal to me & is obviously thriving. She has started getting up on all fours sometimes on her hands & knees & other times on her hands & toes like she's doing a pushup! and getting to where she wants to go. So we might have to baby-proof everything a bit earlier than we thought.. she is mobile now & it won't be long before she is into everything!

I'm going to go & read everyone's birth stories... I have been thinking about doing mine but wondered if I had left it too late...maybe I'll have another go

hope everyone & their babies are well