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Hey all Just thought I pop in before we disappear. We are just about to get on the road to Syd. I'm not at all looking forward to the drive or the stay but will be meeting some great BB girls on Saturday night so that's a plus. Hope u all have a great long weekend. I be in to check and prob vent about the monster in law lol
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Ellas physio tells me the myths about bumbos,walkers,jolly jumpers etc are crap....provided you don't use them as a baby sitter
Not going to get into a debate or anything but being a mother of 4 and the eldest being 18 years old things have changed over the years and recomendations come and go and the way i see it, it is a guide for parents and when it comes down to it i know my children and what is best for them i have 3 very healthy teenage boys with NO allergies NO weight problems NO skin problems NO diegestion problems and all are doing very well and to be totally truthfull ALL 3 were on solids at 3 months ALL 3 DID NOT sleep on their backs like recomended and ALL 3 had pillows before the age of 12 months and did not suffocate in their sleep and none of them were BF for longer then a week and they are all perfectly healthy so i must have done something right i have and will always follow my instincts and what i feel is right for my children as i expect all other mothers do.
And as Tams said her midwife told her to start solids my doctor told me to start solids to help ella's reflux.
And i also feel it does not make them grow up to quick it's farex god sake not a t-bone they still have their bottles and are babies it's just a little rice cereal to help fussy hungry babies or in my case reflux.
My children survived all the changes in recomendations over the last 18 years of formula vs Breastfeeding tummy vs back sleeping solids at an early age vs waiting until older.
It is hard enough being a mum with all the pros and cons and do's and dont's without being judged and ridiculed by others for doing what they believe is the right choice for them.
Oh! and my sister and i were brought up on carnation milk and vitamin drops when we were babies and we are both fine but that was another recomendation back then.
There thats my 2 bobs worth and i dont have one regret at my way of parenting.
No ones judging! You have your opinions and ways of doing things and so do I.
As I said in my post - everyone is different and we all need to do what we feel is right for our families.
louise: the health nurse I saw said the same all those things are fine as long as the kids aren't left in there all day :)
Kylz: have fun!!!!
jaki: I decided against a walker because i felt it would be an extra cost that would be wasted in my tiny tiny house :) Also no mums around me have ever used them and I am pretty much a sheep and just follow what they do hehehe if i had a bigger house I would probably get one.
we do what we gotta do for these little munchkins don't we? Having all the different points of view is great for me being a first time mum so that I can take in all the advice you guys have to share :)
on a side note, i was trying to find the forum part to post this question but wasn't sure but maybe one of you knows the answer or where I should post it?
Even though I BF I got my period back around 9 weeks after c-section, I think that was because I was expressing and my milk supply disappeared etc. So I got the period 13th April. Then I started the mini pill. Had a little bit of bleeding 1st May but only lasted 2-3 days. And I haven't seen my period since. Is it just because I'm BFing that my period is going to be irregular until I stop? Or does the mini pill make your periods irregular? or is the combination of both or am I just a freak lol?
Before I got pg I had irregular periods, in the 12 months leading up to me falling pregnant I had my period 6 times...(I also took a hpt last monday just to make sure I wasn't UTD hehe it was neg)
I've got mine back like clockwork... F**king ripped off I say!!!
Kitty, I can't help u. I haven't got mine back and with Luke, I didn't get them back until he stopped bf
Tams - lol I totally forgot about my avi. Thanks for reminding me. How's the gym n ww going?? I haven't been able to get to the gym as much as I like but I'm down to 71 and aiming to go another 6kg lol I have till the 20 July before my next dress fitting so still plenty of time. I am 3kg less than wat I was before pregnancy
Oh no brissie girls - I won't be able to make it on the 20 June for the meet up as Luke has his daycare fotos from 10:30-11:30 n Monday isn't his day there so will have to take him n wait around etc
Afm - so much going on. I have changed my uni's from open uni to southern cross uni but still doing it by dis Ed. I found with open uni last term that the unit coordinator was just unhelpful and sort of turned me off. Wedding is now 12 weeks away - scary stuff. And Jack, oh my went n saw a family friend who had a lil girl 2 weeks before I had jack n jack was a giant compared to her but one thing I wouldn't change it for the world. Love his massive smiles with his chubba cheeks n the way he cuddles into me when he's falling asleep.
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Omg so cold we are grabbing some sleep well jus is at a rest stop just north of Newcastle and its so cold. Jayden starting to get upset now xxx
Kylz-your only 45min away from me.
We just passed the wyong and Westfield tuggerah signs lol I was so tempted to txt u lol
Ok you were only 5 minutes from me tuggerah is where we do our shopping.
I can't really speak on behalf of everyone else but we may be able to change the date. I think we were only doing that day because Jaki was going to be here but sadly :cry: she isn't going to be now. I just can't do tuesdays and this is the last month that I can make it to a brissy meet up.:
I can do any date Iona tams kitty lou what date good for u
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You moving hope?
Guess what Chloe rolled over tummy to back today!! Now she can do it though she won't stay on her belly, every time she does it she does a huge grin hehe. It is so amazing to me how typical bubs just do stuff, it took til ella was about 8 months or so to be taught how to lay on her tummy and lift her head up.
Brissie girls Friday's are best for me, but could try make any day work for you girls :)
Kylz how was the drive? Has j used the jumparoo yet? I won one on eBay for $60 brand new, very excited to try it but don't know if she's ready.
Congrats Lou! And well done C :)
I can't even get W to lay on his tummy, I spose I should try it every day but I'm lazy and he hates it :( he is getting a flat head tho!
Wyatt just sleep thru! First time. He must have been buggered. 9-6.
It rained on my nappies all night. Waaahhh :(
Drive was good J slept from 830 to 530 had bottle and then slept till we woke him up to get out of car at 10. He then had another few hours during the day went to bed at 830 and woke at 7.
Hope u are all well and ok in the cold
Hope are u moving? We can work around u
Ellasmummy: Lol. Zo is 9 and still my little girl.... Just don't have to wipe her bum! Lmao. Carnation, I think I heard that one. : )
Sarah: Lmao about the lamb! I hear you about eating too much. Mind you, you have three little ones! Bumbo, we have but just like Jak... K is just not ready. I put him in for 3 minutes or so then switch it up with the jumparoo. But just build up my time. I think it is a fabulous idea though.. we shall see how we go. Oh and I got the table with it. : )
Kitty: Lmao about the bumbo. You might find that one day he will be like Oh, I like this thing.. : ) Yep, starting the rice and then doing the purees when he is 4 months or so. Still need to read up on baby led solids though! How is Chase going? Because he was early ect? Are you finding that he is on target with things ect. He looks like he is doing really good. : )
WMM: Lmao about room for anything!! I hear you! I am going to get a walker at some stage.. will wait and once he is out of the swing, will sell that and switch it up. I am trying to do the whole one thing in... one thing out. Good in theory!!
So right!! Thanks Ferrals. : ):
Btw Ferrals, just went to my first moms group yesterday and out of 8 of us.. 6 started rice cereal from 2-3 months. Like one of the moms said " No baby is expected to be the same so why would they all start at an exact time? I think it is wrong how the whole fear factor is instilled into people to make them believe they are doing something wrong... They even feed rice cereal to some newborn or bubs with medical challenges.. so not sure how that would work if they could not handle it. " Yaaaa to a happy baby, it is like K is more happier and his tummy full. Happy mom + Happy bubs= Happy Tams. : ) Lmao, I have been told about the whole bf thing being not recommended. Seriously, they have gone so back and forth. Lmao. I just could not imagine. Thanks for your point of view. xx
Iona: I have not been in over a week and PT starts up next Friday. My ass will be whipped! All good though. Good on you with the weight loss!! Wow your wedding is coming up so quick! You must be so excited or are you at the stage where you just want the day here already? I so remember that! xx
Kylz: I hope your having a ball. The weather is crap here atm and the heater is going. Hope J is traveling well. xx
Hope: I can change the date, just let us know what suits. I am out for Wed and Fridays though... Oh maybe the last Friday of June would be fine. : 0
Sorry, wrote all this walked away and heaps of updates so YAAAAA to EM!! I love these little milestones. : )
Jak: Yaaa to Wyatt and big sleeps! : ) With tummy time, K hated it too but we would just start out two minutes here and now we are up to 15 minutes without him cracking it!!
Afm: I am on a mission to organize so should go. I have now joined three moms groups so mission of alienating alienation is done!:p Hope you guys are all having a wonderful weekend. xx
Must be the weather Ella slept through aswell 8pm til 6am and i only put her dummy back in once.
The jumperroo we got Ella is the precious planets kalah sands or something like that it has jungle animals on it and she is so tiny in it her feet are no where near the floor my poor little short ar#e her dad is 5 ft 8inc and i am 5ft 3inc so she will have no hope in the hight dept.
Ellasmummy- Ella is such a baby baby she sleeps all the time and hasnt even attempted to roll she does all the other things putting hands in her mouth reaching for toys on her mobile but loves her bouncer i dont want her to do milestones early like my 1st son i want my bubby for as long as possible.
TAMS-yeh everyone i speak to started their babies around the 3mth mark i think a lot of ladies listen to their mums advice before all the bigwigs who keep changing their minds i would rather go off experienced mothers then so called know it all professionals who change their minds every other year with a new you beaut idea that doesnt work out.
Ella only has 1 teaspoon after her evening bottle to help with her regurgatation and it has worked great i dont have to give her Zantac of a night anymore she is keeping her milk down so the way i see it i would rather natural rice cereal over chemical drugs anyday and when she is a bit older i bet my bottom dollar that i can stop the morning Zantac when she is having farex for breakky also.
So i am glad i listened to my insticts and my doctor because the reflux is almost non existant now.
And i was talking to my SIL (the one i dont really like) her son had shocking projectile reflux and was hospitalised and needed surgery to correct it and you know what the peadiatric gastroenterologist told her to put her 4 week old son on farex in his bottles and change the teat now a gastroenterologist deals with digestive issues so he was more than happy to recomend that to help her baby and it helped until he had the surgery to fix it permanently.
And the BF thing not being recomended was in my nans days she had my dad and was made to stay in bed with her chest taped down with plasta to stop her milk coming in and my dad was fed every 4 hours by the nurse with carnation milk and then powdered cows milk and my dad is really smart with a high IQ so it didnt effect him any.
All i can say is time changes everything fads come and go and i dont think anyone will every agree on anything i mean look at all these babies having corrective procedures on their miss shapen skulls from back sleeping only so if that is so good why are all the kids getting freaky looking heads.
Sleeping back or side or tummy with no pillow or pillow is another example
SIDS will always be a risk no matter what and no matter what you do doesnt mean it wont happen my old neighbour will tell you that her daughter died from SIDS in her bouncer in the middle of the day and my aunty lost her 18 month old to SIDS during day nap.
I always read recomendations and listen to my relatives and experienced mothers and made my own choices that is all we can do and if it works then great if it dosnt then we try something else.
You look back on past years and wonder how did any of us survive when i was born they didnt have to use car seats i came home in a bassinette on the back seat and we never wore seat belts before they came down hard with the laws i cringe to think of what could have happened.
Anyway enough of all that we are all great mums who just adore their babies and want the best for them and that is all that matters.
And i just wanted to say OMG!!!! MY SON IS 18 TODAY :shakehead: my gorgeous boy my 1st born survived to be 18 and fabulous i love you baby boy!
TBH I really dont care what anyone else does with their bubs - each to their own, what I would hate to see is bubs not being healthy and happy. So if your happy with YOUR decisions and they are BEST for YOUR baby then Im cool with that.
I was just offering what the professional advice is at the time (as was Mel & Sammie) but if you choose to do different then thats also cool. If you are happy with your decission then I dont see why you feel you need to justify it all the time??
Also I wouldnt say that they WHO (World Health Orginisation) is a big wig know it all... but again each to their own.
Im just dropping in to say that I really hope that you and all your bubs do well and enjoy life - Im stepping out of this thread as I just dont feel like Im getting any benefit from it at the moment - I thank you all for your love and support while pregnant and over the birth of Hamish. Ill still be around on BB and on face book.
You had your say Jakabella. Think that we just wanted ours. : )
Any brissie girls doing the childrens expo the 24th of June I believe?
I'm not justifing myself at all i dont have a problem with what i do i was just shareing my experiences from the last 18 years and from what my grandmother and mother have shared with me and when people want to remind me of all the do's and dont's in the media i feel i have the right to air my views aswell and as you said i don't give a rats razoo at what others do with their kids as long as they are not neglected and abused then each to their own but i also dont like things rubbed in my face because of something they read on the internet or heard on tv or even the world health organisation as they are the main one to change there minds all the time one minute something is safe then the next it causes cancer so i take thier advice with a grain of salt DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ and i was mearly expressing what i do and have done for the last 18 years and that is has worked for me and have every right to if you dont agree then dont read my post's then you wont feel the need to comment.
ferrals - happy 18th to you lil (big) man!! how quickly they grow - I was getting teary the other day filling out luke's prep forms
tams - nope not doing the expo - did a few yrs ago and it was soo packed and didn't really get much out of it besides free nappies lol
not much happenig here, mark is off to the afl tonite as i decided to stay home with the kids as it's way tooo cold and luke has just gotten over the cold and i have the start of tonsilitis so have been pumping the penicillian and am thinking that jack may have a bit of a sore throat as well as he is dribbling a bit etc...will see how he goes, but hopefully the penicillian is going to him as well thru the bb's
Iona-another benefit of BF you can treat 2 for 1 but seriously i hope bub doesnt get it.
AFM-i forgot to mention Ella had an oral plastic surgeons appointment on thursday to have a look at that fluid filled cyst under her tongue well you wouldnt believe it on the wed my girlfriend came arounfd to visit and i was telling her about it and picked ella up to show her but when i looked in her mouth i couldnt find it so i got hubby to look he held her down while i opened her mouth and you could see a little strip of skin where it use to be but it was totally empty all the fluid had drained out so i rang our doctor and he said looks like it has resolved which is exactly what DH did when he was a baby and he had the same thing i cant believe it i saw it there on monday and then ella was making funny clicking noises with her tongue on tuesday thats when it must have burst or deflated what ever but it's gone so she wont need surgery now thank god.
That's great ferrals :D
ferrals - that is great news especially for ella...it reminded me of when my lil kitty got desexed and they said that she had a cyst like thing under her tongue and if we wanted to get it tested etc while she was under...i went nope, and it has never been spoken of again (i know I am very strange comparing it to my kittykat lol)
Ferrals that is awesome news! : ) : ): )
Aw hope the sickness leaves the house soon Iona. Yep, figured that would be the case.. Think I might just duck in on my own without the kids. Easier to navigate I think. : )
Ferals, that is awsome that it resolved on its own! she must of not wanted to put you threw the stress of surgery. and a big Happy birthday to your ds! wow, 18, im freaking about my ds2 turning 4 in a week!
Allyssa had her first shower today with daddy, wasnt sure what to think at first, in the end she didnt want to get out! :boohoo:our Bfing days are definatly over :cry: bye bye 6 month mark, we made it halfway. i ate a boot load of those cookies and the raw dogh, gave her nothing but boob yesterday, and had to give her a bottle befor bed as she was so hungry :(
i have a "contraceptive counceling" appointment next monday, kind of freaking big time about it as my doc put on the referal that she strongly recomends tubal litigation, i know right now i dont want anymore kids, but whats to say in 7 years i still wont? i dont know, never been good at making dessisions.
check this out how cute is she!
Sarah, she is beautiful. : )
As for the tubal, possibly listen to them... and then make your own decision. I have a girlfriend who had her kids very young, 15,17 and 19. She now has given birth to a girl... 12 years later. If you have doubts now, let it rest. People can have their opinions but ultimately it lies with you. I know social work and how it goes... so go, listen and then leave. You are the only one that can make that choice, regardless of what they tell you! xx
Btw did I tell you what a kick ass job you are doing? What a kick ass job all of us are doing??
This thread can be so fantastic when it not judgmental and just supports others.... That is what it is ment to do, I think. So grateful for those that do. : )
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Don't you just love that 1st morning gummy smile you get when you walk in bubs room and say goodmorning.
Sarah-Its a very hard decision after my last son almost 14 years ago i swore i would not want anymore the boys father was a wa#ker but could not bring myself to permanantly prevent conception it wasnt until i met the love of my life 5 years ago that i had the desire to give him what he really wanted a baby because he really wasnt there for his daughter with his ex their marriage was crap also.
Now at 37 and 39 i feel i have had enough and it would be to risky with our 1 in 4 chance of having an SLO baby DH would like a biological son and has told me he wont get the snip just yet because he would like one more:o so we are in a little dilema if DH had a high paying job where money was not an issue then i might consider it but i dont want to have to worry about money.
But dont let people pressure you to do what you might regret later.
I have a picture of ella in the shower with her dad on my FB page also lol.
I couldnt see your pic it wouldnt let me.
AFM- The weather sux here cold wet and miserable.
Well I didn't get a gummy smile this morning, Wyatt was sleeping with us and I dropped my phone on his noggin! Poor bubba, I felt soooo bad :(
Lucky babies are forgiving!
Haha jak I've done that before.
Well yesterday I felt like the worst mumma in the world. Was cutting Chloes nails, and on the last one she pulled her hand away and I nicked her finger :( and it bled :( I felt so so bad! I cried more than her I think. I hate those frigin nail clippers, but hate biting them off too.
Ferrals hope your ds had a great birthday :)
Iona, wedding is getting close! Do you feel prepared? I hated the lead up. but loved it at the same time lol.
I just fixed it Ferrals. Sorry, I have changed it to just people from Canada but adding you to the list now. Too right they are Jak and they forget about it way sooner then we do! : )
Awwww poor wyatt it happens though and they survive but i did have a little chuckle when i visualised you freaking out when you did it.
Ellasmummy-Yehhh! i hate those nail clippers i cut ella's the other day and it felt like i was cutting skin i freaked but she didnt make a peep so it must have just been her soft nails i had to do them she scratches the hell out of me.
And i have hurt my girl by accident to she hates having tops put on and fidgets and whinges and i was struggling to get her top on and her finger bent back and she cried not screamed just cried but i felt terrible.
My son had a great 18th was spoiled rotten he got his 1st tattoo a big dragon on his shoulder and arm it looks great he got $500 worth of gift cards for JB HI FI and city beach jay jays jean ect he got all new clothes and shoes for going out clubbing from us he got $300 cash a mens ring and necklace and all the 18th cups and bits and pieces they get and he still has his party on his fathers side of the family yet so OMG! i wish i had an 18th party when i was younger.
Wow spoilt!!!
I've been mulling over the past day whether to come in and address the "judging" accusations that seem to be appearing.
I'm just going to say - all posts by Kate, Sammie and myself contained no judgement. They contained information. If we had said "gee whiz, you are feeding them solids at 2 months, wow thats so crap, you're a crap mother blah blah blah" - THAT is judgement.
We didn't call anyone a crap mother. We didn't say anything bout your decision to. I personally posted the reason WHY the guidelines are in place, just incase someone wasn't aware of the reason. To me, thats not judgemental, thats sharing information.
To me, BB just isn't about support, its about sharing information that you may not have learnt otherwise. I know for me, I parent my 4th child way different to my 1st child - because I've had BB women to teach me things, to challenge my way of thinking, to make me see if from another point of view not my own. It is not judgement to share information, and it saddens me that people in here feel judged because of others sharing information.
So maybe, instead of flinging crap at us about how we were "judging" people - maybe its the way the information was received by others, your reaction to it - not what we have been "assumed" in saying.
Any way, I'm not going to stay in a thread where any information I feel is necessary to be shared in relation to a topic is going to be classed as me judging, so I'm out too. FWIW, I don't judge people on their decisions on what they do with their child. I've fed my child early, done controlled crying, fed to a schedule, used every bloody thing that they say not to, and you know what - at the end of the day I live with my decision and thats fine. But if something changes and someone challenges me on a new way of thinking with my next child - I don't see it as judging, I see it as doing the best by my child with the information that is available to me at that exact time.
Thats enough babbling from me. Good luck to everyone with their babies - enjoy them because they are only little for such a small amount of time. :)
Cheers and Beers!
Mel xx