Babies Born ~ November 1st -15th 2011 #1

[Lolpigs]

Had a terrible night, miss L screamed until 2am and finally fell asleep after finding her thumb and shoving in her mouth. She slept on me in her wrap till 7am. Here is hoping for a better day. Hope my milk is OK going tha long in between feeds, think it was 6 or 7 hours? I don'r remember I was too tired and not willing to wake her once I got her asleep.

[Mollie89]

If your worried about your supply you can always express to bulid it up, although I dont think going that long will effect it too much Lolpigs. I hope Miss L is more settled for you today.. Maybe you could try some tummy time, that sometimes helps them bring up wind, or even lying her on her side, and I found with Aubree if I heated a wheat pack up lightly wrapped it in a nappy and then put that on my chest and her on her tummy on it it helped with the pain.. Just some more suggestions that might help next time!!

We had a pretty good night last night... So my mum is over here today looking after Aubree between feeds so that DH and I can go do some groceries! Hopefully she will be alright!

[DANNIIM]

Abby seems to be reasonably settled on the formula we have put her on, think i will try and keep to a pattern of 3hrly feeds for her during the day atm cos she only takes around 60mls at a time, so she's by no means a guts at all. Makes you realise that she really wasn't taking much at the breast especially when she was doing alot of cluster feeding from lunch time till bed time at night around 9pm. She pulls a face every now and then like a bit of acid comes up but nothing comes up with it, she has never had an actual milk spill/vomit yet which is really weird for me cos both the boys were complete reflux babies.

[xAmandax]

Danni- wow that's good to know - I thought the blisters etc were probably still to come! With attachment, the only thing I was told by a midwife was to make sure their lips made the "special K" sign (like the K on the breakfast cereal) by making sure both lips went outwards instead of tight around the nipple, and I haven't had any problems yet?!

Lolpigs, I know hey, MILs are so frustrating.. Sorry yours is he same! It's so unsettling to me hearing her try to somehow lay claim over violet, it makes me feel sick. Poor you with last night, awww... You must be exhausted!!

Mollie- I like the heat pack in a nappy idea!! I might try that!

Jan, aw thank you yeah I'm heaps glad DH agreed- he said she only ever thinks of herself which definitely seems true! She will definitely try to stay with us when she comes to Adelaide but I told DH no way cos it'd stress me out too much and babies pick up on stress... His dad who also lives out of Adelaide is tying with us next weekend, which is fine cos his dad is lovely- so I compromised by at least saying he could stay with us.. I'll try not to let it get to me! It's so aggravating when you have such a stupid issue like this on your mind!!

CK ha, Violet has that tendency too, to wait till I've either changed her completely or have jut taken off her nappy and he will go to the toilet!! Very messy when it's the latter! And yeah SO many nappy changes! I think we go through like 12 or so a day!

Does anyone know, with allergies, when do babies develop those? Cos I know children with a peanut allergy can't be around other people who have eaten peanuts for example- and the other day DH was kissing Violets face after eating nuts (not peanuts) and it got me wondering how quick allergies become present?

We had an annoying feeding night last night too- Violet wanted to be fed every 5 mins from about 4pm till about mid iChat! It's weird hey.. Was so relieved I could finally settle her before i went to bed...

Danni, awww poor you with the sore nipples- have you tried the nipple shields? Myodwife said as long as the baby at least gets your colostrum then that's heaps beneficial, and you've at least breastfeeding for a few weeks! That's more than lots of babies would get of breastfeeding! But I totally get your frustration, how upsetting for you!

AM lol @ the curtains! I don't know if I'd have laughed or cried if that were me!!

[Lolpigs]

Glad things are going better Dan. Maybe the break will help you get her back on the boob. x

Amanda, MIL do suck my whole family is being really understanding about visiting, essentially no "visits" till I can get this feeding issues under control. My mother pops by occasionally to help out but that is is. My husbands father is also being super pushy. They dont care I'm up all night and cant feed her properly they just want to play with her. ****s me.

Well I'm not Dr but looks like Miss L has reflux. I have to feed her upright, sit her upright for 15mins after a feed, and she leaks milk out of her mouth. I could hear her regergitating last night before bursts of screaming so that must be what it is. I've started waking her ever 2.5 hours to give her smaller feeds which seemed to work the last 2 times, as she setttled to sleep.
I've also propped one end of her bassinette up so that she is sloaping downwards.

Good news is, she settled twice and is now asleep for the second time today with no screaming

[LoveKnowsNoBounds]

Danni I had that same pain you describe and it was because she wasn't latching on correctly. She also made a clicking noise when feeding. The formula has worked for us. She is overall happier and that is the main thing. Don't feel bad, sometimes things happen that are out of our control. I'm doing 3 hourly as well.

Lolpigs how are things going today?

[Mollie89]

Lolpigs Glad to hear the Miss L is settled this afternoon

For those that are still breastfeeding, when you are feeding are you offering both breasts or just the one?

[Lolpigs]

Going well sweatpea Thanks for asking. Aside from last night being crazy I'm getting the hang of everything and so is Lilly How are you going ?

Both breasts here, I get whinged at if I only offer one LOL

[Mollie89]

Hmm Im worried.. Aubree is only taking the one side (although I look something like pamela anderson cross with a cow!) she is content afterwards, and settles and goes to sleep...

What should there out put be?

[Cranky Kitten]

Good to hear Lilly is settling better with being raised etc Lolpigs - have you got a Dr appt soon to get her checked over? They may be able to come up with some other suggestions that help as well.

With the allergies Amanda I don't know how soon they'd manifest, I think normally it'd be when they'd start solids etc - does your family have a history of severe allergies? I know some studies suggest not delaying the introduction of the usual culprits as this can make them worse as the body doesn't recognise the proteins as "food" instead seeing them as a threat but if you do have concerns you're probably best talking with your Dr or child nurse about it?

I get the feeling I'm pretty lucky with my ILs as they're pretty good about giving me space or allowing us to come to them rather than they come to us - makes things easier as I'm not then responsible for entertaining them or catering for them. SIL is trying to convince us to "catch up" with DHs father and his family who I've never met and DH doesn't speak to though...I tell DH it's up to him. Not going to be drawn in to family politics.

Alex is still very settled and cruisy, he does tend to spit up a bit after a feed but it doesn't seem to bother him at all. Went shopping with the ergo yesterday, worked a treat as he slept the whole time snuggled in against my chest. It is very warm though, so definitely going to be an aircon only option I think.

Mollie, for me it depends on him. If he's hungry he'll take both sides, if he's just after a top-up before a nap (we usually feed to sleep or till he's very close to sleep) he may take just the one side but I do make sure I alternate sides each time so he's working both equally - I have one boob bigger than the other already so don't need to make it worse So long as you're getting 5+ wet nappies in 24hrs (disposables) and putting on weight they're pretty well fine.

[Lolpigs]

Far as I know 6-8 wet nappies a day and 1-3 dirty ones.

So long as she is content I wouldnt worry. You could express the other side each feed or just alternate, from what I have read some babies have preferences and you might just have great supply and she only needs one

CK , yeah going to the GP tomorrow and have the Pead on Thursday so hopefully someone can help. Poor poppette. Glad Alex is still doing well Yeah I find the ergo really warm too. The sleepy wrap is alot cooler.

[DANNIIM]

Thanks girls i feel alot better today about the whole bottle/formula feeding. I've switched over completely, my boobs still have big massive cracks in them this morning don't really look as though they have healed significantly in 24 hours and Abby is happier on the formula as well. She has been sleeping through the night for about 5 nights now but when i was breastfeeding she would cluster feed from about midday to 9pm with a small sleep slotted in there about half way through - i think she was exhausting herself with so much feeding in the arvo.

Jan what formula are you using?? I was tossing up yesterday between the Bellamy's organic and Heinz nurture gold, i ended up going with the Heinz and she seems fine on it, have noticed she only drinks about half the amount suggested for her age though but i'm sure she will adjust over the coming weeks.

[Lolpigs]

The one I have been using to comp with is Nan Gold HA and Nan Gold Tetra packs it is what the hospital used as it has Whey protien in it so apparently easier on their tummies if they are used to breast milk.

This feed wasnt as good, we had a longer reflux attack, it wasn't as extreme as last night but still in pain. Thankfully she took the dummy today as she has been refusing it all week and wanting my fingers instead and felt better quicker and is trying to get off to sleep now. Poor dear. I definatley think having the smaller feeds is helping keep the symptoms to a minimum. Dan any suggestions at all? I saw you mention your sons were really refluxy?

Edit: 45mins to get to sleep

When you guys count time between feeds do you count from teh end time of the last feed, or sleep time? I generally count sleep time (or the end of the feed if she goes down straigth away) otherwise with this issue she would be constantly awake to feed.

[AMumma]

I'm having trouble getting Levi to settle. Hubby can but I haven't had much luck. I think because it's not working for me I get flustered easily.

[Lolpigs]

I'm having trouble getting Levi to settle. Hubby can but I haven't had much luck. I think because it's not working for me I get flustered easily.

Yeah that was happening to me at first. Now its the opposite, because I'm better at remaining calm. Stick with it, once you figure out what works for you and Levi you will be fine

[DANNIIM]

Lolpigs we used alot of gripe water with DS1 but by 4ish months he had come good. DS2 was harder nothing settled him, didn't matter what I changed I did a bit of comp feeding with him and breastfed till about 10 months and he was still puking getting pretty close to 12 months of age. He wasn't bad enough for medication, we just basically stumbled through his first few months the best we could. Sorry really no help am I? Have you tried natural brauers I think there called? I've also heard alot of positive story's from people seeing a osteopath.

[LoveKnowsNoBounds]

Hi everyone,

Danni - we are using S26 Gold. It is working well for her. We tried Naan HA and she became constipated so now we stick with s26. How is she taking to the Heinz?

AM - a reason he may settle better with your DH is because Levi can smell your milk. Even though he may not need a feed he knows it's there. I had that problem with DS. It's good to change hands after awhile anyway as it's only human to get frustrated. Especially when they are screaming.

Lolpigs - I take it from the start of the feed as that is when their little bodies start processing the milk. I feed every 2.5 - 3 hours. It makes it easier to eliminate hunger as why she is crying.

If it's any consolation I asked our paed in the hospital about gas as she used to cry for 1.5 hrs because of it. He said their systems have trouble processing it at least until 6 weeks because everything is so new and they are learning. Jess brings up milk too. I keep her upright for 10 mins after every feed. Though sometimes she still then wakes with a vomit. I'm hoping she will readjust in time. Hopefully your paed can help her out, it's terrible to see them in pain

We had a better night sleep last night. Going to get her weighed today. Seeing that nurse that give me the guilt trip about formula even though she was screaming from not attaching and low supply. I'm hoping she doesn't say anything today or I might go off lol.

[Cranky Kitten]

Gonna have a grouch this morning...in addition to the Little Man having me up every 1.5-2hrs when he normally goes 3.5-4hrly at night, DH thought it'd be a good idea to poke me in the brief moment I did get to sleep because I woke him up snoring.....grrrr!