Babies born~ May 16th-31st 2009 #9

Oooooh, some of the clothes out there make my stomach churn! And Nay, that sounds like physical culture - I've always hated that they force girls to curl their hair and wear make up, even at a very young age. Natty is so dead-keen on doing some kind of dancing and I have managed to hold her off until she starts school but I really dislike the outfits they have to wear for dancing, and I dislike the 'thin' attitude that goes along with it. Natty is skinny because she doesn't eat a healthy diet. I really don't want her to learn from other kids (or even worse from adults) that she's got an 'ideal' figure. Cause she certainly doesn't have a healthy figure IMO - I'd love her to have a tiny bit more meat on her bones. Sigh. It's really hard to protect your kids from the negative aspects of our culture sometimes.
And re the earrings being a bit of bling, I get it. I don't bother with hairclips much either BG for the same reason! They get pulled out after a while - they're kind of disposable really. Although Natty's at an age where she likes to wear them if she remembers.
Nay, I'm sorry B had to have the casts done again :( Poor kid. (And poor you. It's so horrible having to deal with something like that. I really didn't fully appreciate it until P got sick. I was an absolute mess, crying constantly & feeling helpless because it feels so mean but is so necessary. And at the same time you're trying to put on a brave face for your kid so they don't panic too much. Gak, it sucks.)

P was on one of those healthy bacteria supplements while we were giving her the ABs but we stopped giving it to her when she finished the course. I think my first course of action will be to reintroduce that along with a vitamin supplement like hospital grade sustegen. I really don't think she needs it because she's got quite a balanced diet but it really can't hurt. Then if this cold develops into something bigger (which if she is Ig deficient, it will) I will get her tested and we would probably see the immunologist. For now though, I can't justify the testing.
Thank you guys so much for your thoughts. I have been considering everything and I must say I'm glad to have a group of friends whose opinions I trust. I think I am more in line with you guys in parenting philosophy than any of my other friends. So again, thanks.

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Nay - you so sound like a Nana!

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I know, I know :o hehehehe
I am old fashioned in some ways and yet modern in others (I am certainly a mixed bag and full of contradictions when it comes to my opinions, I get more conservative as Bailz gets older!!!). But I do actually think pierced ears look pretty, not tacky (E's certainly look cute as!). But I think my old fashioned idea's of "you have to be a certain age" kick in and over-ride that - My strict parents (well Dad anyhoo) have had an influence there!! :D

Tacky is five earrings in each ear - LOL!!

Good point Amy re reinforcing a healthy body image. My 5 year old neice once told me she never wanted to be fat - I was floored!!!

I have 2 pairs and my mum was dead set against taking me so i was 8 when my mums friend took me got it done then they got infected closed up then got them done again when i was 9 lol second pair 13 took them out for school closed up got them re done at 16
i want to get Jazzy's done earlier but i would rather she asks for them coz she might not want them KWIM? be a tomboy etc not sure i guess its up to u

Happy Birthday Little CJ, Cara and Phoebe =] 3 gorgeous girls who share a birthday

Happy Birthday sweet girls

E is unhappy at the moment - poor poppet is teething badly, and may have reacted to something (not sure what) that she ate in the last few days. nasty bad nappy rash and tears when she wees cos it burns so badly. she was awake for a very large portion of last night (1-ish til well after 4)

Thanks for all the birthday wishes. She had an ok day even though I had to work so she was at CC. We'll have a party on Sunday with the fam for her.
BG, so sorry to hear E isn't well :( Nappy rash totally bites. Hope you are not falling-over-tired after such a rough night.

Hey, DH posted a gorgeous vid of P and I've shared on my wall - you have to watch! She is playing her favourite game and I can't get enough of it. It's so cute.

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Hey, DH posted a gorgeous vid of P and I've shared on my wall - you have to watch! She is playing her favourite game and I can't get enough of it. It's so cute.

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Amy, unless I am going blind, I cant see it :(

Amy - me neither (only Nai's comments about sewers :-))

Birthday wishes Cara and Phoebe - strictly speaking CJ not 2 yet as was 11:50pm but it is still funny thinking have a two year old - my word time flies!!!!

Insomnia is striking here which is a pain, have now finished work and my mum is here but today was a bit busy due to the birthday (partly my own fault for leaving everything last minute - birthday cake for mothers group I started making at 13:00 and MG started at 14:30!! Looking forward to tomorrow as CJ is in daycare but I am not working.

BG - Sorry to hear E is suffering with her teeth. CJ has all hers through now and didn't suffer much at all although did have dodgy nappies for a little bit which must have coincided with when the teeth broke through. Looks like from pics she had a great birthday.

Sorry girls - just asked DH what the go is with the video. He restricted it to his friends only :rolleyes:
I will re-post from the home computer tonight.

Have a great day today Vic - it's lovely when you can just chill out while they are being looked after. Make sure you don't spend the day doing housework or something silly ;)

Amy - gorgeous, Phoebe is adorable!! And you are a yummy mummy xxxx

I'll have to show Bailz tomorrow, he has a thing for pretty girls :)

Tee hee! Hope Bailz likes her - it's been a while since they caught up.
LOL @ yummy mummy! Did you like my big red pimple and red bags under my eyes? Other than that, the yellow teeth and flat hair, I'm delicious. ;)
Thanks for the lovely comments though, girls. Feels gooey to have people admire your offspring :)

So SO angry right night! Absolutely fuming!

Just making dinner for the family, but I promise I'll be back to vent my anger!

oh noes! hope you're ok KL!


must be the day for crap to be going on - i'm on the brink of tears and have been for several hours. so much going on that i just can't seem to deal with properly. my last caller at work was just about enough to tip me over. thankfully i live close now and being greeted with excited screams of "Mummy, MUMMY, you're HOME" and big smiles - it stopped me falling apart - but i'm not far off

Hope your ok too KL.

Hope things get better for you too BG, have to agree about the squeals of mummy making everything seem good.

Not sure if repeating myself but since being a mum have realised how clever monsters Inc film is - laughter generating electricity - because little ones laughter is just so special is only a small leap to believe could be used to generate electricity. When they laugh sometimes it does seem like the lights shine a bit brighter.

Oh no kristie... Vent away!

Oh dear Lee, I hope your LO makes all the stress seem far away. Hugs babe. Take care hey. If it helps I love you honey.

Oooh, dear :( Sorry you guys are having such a crap day. :hug:

:( wats up? sounds bad

we got the house :) we are moving to diggers rest :) can u tell im excited? lol

My vent got rather long, so I decided to post it as it's own thread. I feel a little better after writing it all out.

https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...2/#post2829687

BG - I hope you are feeling a little better this evening than you were today. Fingers crossed you got some lovely toddler cuddles and that you get a good nights rest tonight.

J - Congrats on getting the new house! Diggers Rest is still not far from me :D

Vic - Hmmm, maybe that's why my light bulbs keep dying even though they are meant to be the "long life" ones hehe

oh no!! that's so not on!

KL - Sounds like you were treated atrociously - and I don't understand how anyone could think that behavior like you were subjected to would be likely to encourage people to vaccinate, if anything that sort of thing is likely to push people the other way whether they have made an informed decision or not. Is there anyone you can complain to? (I am pro-vax in general, but in your case I think I would have done exactly as you have, (sometimes I feel a bit ashamed to be pro-vax because of some attitudes people display - it should always be up to the individual, and there will always be cases where vaccination is inappropriate, you don't need 100% vaccination for herd immunity anyway - trying to bully people into it is just ridiculous)).

Grrrrr KL that just sucks, you handled it much better than me!! We are pro-vax'ers too like Vic, but thats my choice and I would never push that on anyone else, I'm so sorry you had such a bad experience xxx

Oh kl :(. That is just not on honey! I am like the other girls, pro vaxs but if I was in your situation with your history I wouldn't either. A lady I know got her daughter vax'ed with MMR and she got type 1 diabetes immediately after and apparently that is in the contraindicated list if you have a family history of diabetes, but you never get asked about any of them.... Sorry you had to go thru that.

love my bubba girl - she seems to keep the bad stuff at bay a little. still so much going on that is hard to process at the moment. trying to hold it together for E but really struggling. haven't been posting much because i just don't know how to find the words. feeling so overwhelmingly sad and so GUILTY - and i can't deal with that. mostly keeping it together for E, but sometimes it gets too much. usually when i'm tired, it gets harder to keep the facade up

going to bed. praying E sleeps through. praying i sleep. just need my brain to stop for a while

Thanks for the support ladies :) It's funny because I actually totally agree with the whole "informed consent" concept, so a part of me would have loved to stick around for their little "information session" that was to be followed by the vaccinations. I wonder if they were going to say anything about potential risks. Hmm, and how would they have responded if I asked questions, lol.

The one thing that I have learnt from this though, is that I seem to feel quite comfortable with the decision we have made not to vaccinate at this point in time. Up until now I wasn't sure if I was actually fully happy with our choice, but the fact that I was angry, and not upset makes me realise that I am happy with it. I think if I had felt upset it might have been a sign that I felt a little guilty about not vaccinating. It really has been the hardest decision for us to make because neither of us are against vaccinations.

I think at times we feel like we are in a "you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't" situation. We'd kick ourselves so bad if we vaccinated and something really bad happened, but on the flip side, we'd also kick ourselves if either of the kidlets come down with one of the diseases in a bad way. I should switch my thinking to the opposite though: "It's fine if you do, and it's fine if you don't". My babies probably wouldn't have a reaction if we vaccinated, and they probably will be fine if we don't :)


PS. Pass the cotton wool please so I can wrap up my babies ;)

BG - So sorry to hear that things aren't going so well at the moment. One day soon when you have a day off work you should try to have a "worry free day". Just try to put aside all the bad things for one day and focus only on all the good. Sure, all those bad things will still be there, but just for one day they can wait and be forgotten. Hopefully one full carefree day will re-charge your batteries and give you the renewed energy to tackle things. I'm so glad that our little ones seem to have the magical ability to make other problems disappear, even if only for a little while ♥

thanks KL
i have worry free "part days" - we spend a lot of time at parks and outside playing with E and just forgetting we are grown up and responsible adults! it helps heaps.




my sig might explain why my head is messed up at the moment...

Oh BG!!! No! I'm so sorry honey! Oh dear, I'm so devastated for you :( No wonder you aren't feeling your best. It's one thing to be able to forget about work and other troubles for a while, but I'm sure that this is not something that can be so easily "forgotten" even for a short period of time. Nothing I say can make you feel better, but I hope that physically you are ok. My heart goes out to you sweetness and you are firmly in my thoughts ♥

Thanks KL
the physical part is been and gone. it was nasty bad while it was happening, but the worst was over within a few days. i am one of those "lucky" women that passes everything naturally - but also has lots of minor laboring to do so, so a few days of pretty ordinary discomfort. i am now being hit by the emotional though - the fact that i was so detached and kept working (until the pain was too much) and just didn't let myself accept that anything was happening that warranted an emotional response - now that response is catching up - along with a lot of guilt - a LOT of guilt (primarily because i was so detached and can't fathom what the hell i was thinking to shut down like that)

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