Babies born~December 1st-15th 2009 #1

[Mummy-Lani]

Omg sesame condolences sent your way. How wonderful that your dad managed to hold on to see Liam.
Great work for Liam sleeping thru for 2 nights.

Jett has been good. We have got his wind handled with infacol and he has started pooing daily now (instead of once every 5 days) since he is having prune juice.

Sorry I have not been on as often as I would like. This being a mum takes up all my time. But I wouldn't change it for anything.

Tilda hope u r feeling better.

Alison yay for your new pram.

Suz loved ure birth story.

Welcome Rachel.

Carmey yay for Jack letting you get lots of sleep too

BS love the pics of Eva she is such a little cutie. Ure place looks great I would love to come visit too.

Ok Jett is calling. Sorry to anyone I missed will try n get back on after this feed and my dinner.

[Plinky]

Sesame - Oh I'm so very sorry to hear about your Dad It must have been nice for him to see little Liam. My deepest sympathy to you and your family. Thats great he's sleeping from 10-5.30!! Thats fantastic!

Alison - Yeah, I'm still wearing preggy stuff I went shopping with my mum & sis on Saturday and bought a heap of stuff in the next size up than my pre-preg size thinking that should be heaps. But alas.......everything I bought was still too small. I'm not returning them tho, I'm sure I'll lose the weight....eventually....won't I???! Perhaps Amelia is getting more than you think from the boob? But from what the CHN said, Michael seems to be an exception, feeding only 4 times a day at 240-300mls a time. He's a right little piggy!! So Amelia is prolly getting enough, I'm sure she's let you know if she wasn't!

Tilda - I know the feeling when you know and they know they need to sleep but they just fight it. Thats what Michael is like during the day...as soon I position him in my arms to put him down, he starts bawling. Its really hard cos he won't take a dummy when he's all upset like that...so its like...well what do I do then?!! I'm coping by sometimes picking him up if he's really bad, or standing over his bassinet & singing to him or talking to him until he calms down (that seems to work most the time). Oh, and the dummy both the paed and the CHN recommended to us was Happy Baby...they have longer teats on them and fill the mouth more. I was worried about any damage that may cause to their mouth development and the paed said it won't cause any damage/malformations or anything. Michael doesn't seem to take it for long anyway, he spits it out when he's asleep.

BS - oh yes, I saw that pic of the forest too...sooo lovely! I grew up around the Lake District in UK so I'm used to doing that sort of walking...I miss it so much! There just isn't really anywhere like that here...unless you want to "go bush" I guess...but then its too hot....wahwahwah...there goes the whingeing pom in me!

Suz1 - Oooh gosh, do you think it was the immunisations that caused him to be so unsettled? Michael has his on Friday...I dont' want to take him!!! How was your morning tea? Yeah, thats what I keep telling myself...I hope my boobs work for the next bub!

Carmey - great that Jack is sleeping so well at night!! Must be great for you to have a good few hours sleep yourself

Lani - It does take up all our time, doesn't it! Esp when they won't sleep during the day!! Tho, I must say, I'd rather that than not sleeping at night...anyday!

And welcome Rachel! This is a fantastic group you have joined, hope you find it as helpful as me

AFM - Christening went absolutely perfectly!!!! Michael was a complete angel, he was awake for most the service, just looking around. Didn't cry once, then fell asleep after he'd had the water on his head. Then back at our house (we did have enough food..phew!), he was getting passed from one person to the next and he only got upset a couple of times. He would have been awake for a good 3-4 hours, with so much noise and the rest of it...he's such a little trooper. Then he slept for a bit, I had to wake him for his bath & feed, then he slept till 6.15am!!!!!!!!!!! Tho, I think that was purely just cos he was worn out from the day. But I'm not complaining!! He's been a bit cranky today tho, maybe thats from yesterday I dunno. DH mum was able to get a couple of hours out of the hospital so she came to the service, tho because of the nurse taking her time she only made it 5 mins before the end. But it was great that she got to see her grandson in the gown that she christened her own kids in.

All in all, it was a wonderful day - even if I only ate one sausage roll all day and no drink! (seriously, I don't think I went to the loo in about 9 hours - thats baaad) Plus, sis has new boyf who is just fantastic...fingers crossed he's the one this time!!!

[Carmey]

sesame, I'm just so sorry. I can't begin to imagine how hard this has been for you. You're doing so well and you're so strong. Thank goodness he got to see Liam. Love to you, huni. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Alison1973]

Hi Sesame - oh no I'm so sorry to hear about your dad, I'm glad he's out of pain now and it like the other girls have said it's wonderful that he held out for Liam to be born, I'm sure he's looking over him and you with such pride. Yay for Liam having a big sleep, doesn't it make such a difference! I've been told once they start doing that they pretty well stay that way, Amelia had a couple of set backs as well but is has done 4 nights in a row of 8+ hours so here's hoping, she did another 10 hours last night....we're very lucky so far.

Hi Beany - thank god it's not just me, how depressing is this clothes thing. I bought some really nice shorts online and they arrived today, size 12 which I thought would be safe as I usually wear between a 10 and 12 and while they fit I have this massive big muffin top hanging over the top, seriously I nearly vomited when I saw myself in the mirror, I'm hideous! I was looking at my wedding pics earlier and I just want to look like that again, guess I'll have to get the personal trainer back if I want to do that as that's how I did it then! I need to get cracking and stop eating crap.....I just can't get motivated. Tomorrow I'm visiting a friend who had a bub a few weeks ago, she lives near one of the shopping centres so we're walking the prams to the shops, it's only about 15 mins each way but then we'll walk around the shops so should be good exercise. I'm really glad Michael's christening went well, did you do "Church of England"? That's what we'll be doing I think, DH isn't keen as he's not religious at all but even though I don't go to church or anything either I still want to christen her. Mum is hassling me already.

Hi BS - gee you sound like you're getting a great workout good on you! That's interesting about the abs, I am going to start doing something tomorrow but now I'm wondering if I should. I do some where I lie on my back and raise my legs up and down without touching the ground, it kills but it's great for the tummy muscles. I've never had a six pack or totally flat stomach, well not one I can remember, but I so have to get rid of this flabby tyre, it upsets me so much every time I try clothes on I feel so revolting.

Hi Suz - I must be like the girl in your mums group, I lost 8 kgs instantly but have only shifted 1 kg since and still have 6/7 to go, booooooo.

Hi Carmey, Hi Lani!

Time for a cup of tea for me.......I caught up with my pregnancy aqua class friends and their bubs today, had a lovely day.

[BrusselsSprout]

We should plan a Brussels bubs and mums trip...! lol...I think that I am more likely to be in Australia sometime soon (I have a friend marrying a guy from Perth - they have not chosen the location of the wedding, but I know Perth is an option).

Sesame, I am so sorry to hear about your dad. I send my condolences to you and your family. You are right though - it is better not to have him suffer...that is worse than anything. I am glad he got to see Liam!

Suz, did you eat anything different lately? Or maybe it is just a growth spurt - hope it ends soon!

Carmey, my trainer is making me do a lot more cardio at the moment (I think he sees I have a lot to lose) and lots of toning and hypopression (I am not sure if that is the word in english...) abs...I went to the physio who explained that straight crunches and sit ups should not be done ever for women since it puts all the pressur on the vagina and perineal muscles! I didn't know that! In any case he has stopped my abs for a while - until a bit after the third and only lets me do breathing ab excercises, as well as working legs, back (my posture has turned to crap from breast feeding and sleeping in a seated position!) and arms (jiggles!)...so he is focusing on everything but not too much on abs except for the deep breathing - which is harder to do than regular situps - I actually have more ab pain after that than with standard ab excercises...And he tells me to do the eliptical whenever I can and walk and do as much cardio as possible.

It is wierd though - I find the weight sort of staying the same. I think my body is looking better but I have not lost an ounce...It is depressing. But whatever. I might beone of those who loses weight with the weaning.

Lani, glad Jett is doing so well. You are all welcome if you are ever over

AFM, another night like clockwork. Eva seems to have gotten her rythm down to Sleep at 8 wake at 12, 3330 and 630, then awake around 8...not exactly the wonderful hours some of you girls are getting, but I'll take it - I did manage to get into bed at 10pm last night (almost 9!) and feel better this morning - I will keep aiming for the 9pm bedtime...

We have workers in the hosue today finishing up the doors to our showers (thiçs is the last big thing left - we have been using the guest showers since we moved in, so it will be nice getting itno our own bathroom!) - then there are a few little things to finish up and the apt is TOTALLY done!

xoxo to all!

[BrusselsSprout]

Beany, we posted at the same time! I am glad the christening went so well!!!Eva also hates being passed around - she is a mommy's girl for now! I'll enjoy it while I can! Put up some pics if you have any!

[*suz1*]

Hi Girls,

Sesame - I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad That's great that he was around long enough to meet Liam. Liam is a good boy for sleeping so long for you.

Carmey - I loved your birth story! I only got to read it last night. Thanks for the reminder to drink more water, I keep forgetting and I think it does affect my supply. Congrats on Jack's sleep, that's great!

Beany - The Christening sounds like it went well. I inherited the Christening gown that my Grandma Christened my Dad and Uncles in, but we aren't religious so I won't get to use it. However, I bet your Mum was proud to see Michael in your gown, that would have been really special. My family are from the Lakes District too, from Buxton. I've never been there but my Dad and Grandma both told me how beautiful it is. Don't worry, you will get to wear the new clothes as your baby weight starts to drop off.

Lani - I know what you mean! It's incredible how much time babies take! There were days with Craig where I didn't get to shower or eat because if I put him down he would start crying. Not to mention all the extra washing and cleaning that babies generate. You are doing well to post considering that you've had a windy baby to deal with. I'm so glad you've got Jett's tummy troubles sorted now.

Brussels - Me too! I'd love to visit! I think the ab exercises you're doing are what we call 'isometric' exercises, like the plank or where you do half a sit up and hold it. My GP said I still have at least a finger-width gap in my abs so I can't start crunches yet. I've been doing isometric exercises and yoga poses since seeing her which will hopefully close it up. Sounds like your personal trainer is pretty good! Stick with it, I'm sure you'll see results soon. But we do all seem to lose the baby weight differently. I lost weight over Christmas without dieting or exercise, but the other new Mum in my Mum's Group (her bub is 5 months old) said today that she's only lost her baby's weight and hasn't lost the rest (and she was much trimmer and fitter than me).

AFM - Ryan seems to have settled again and both boys were really good today. It looks like it was just the immunisations that initially upset Ryan. But it does appear that when one boy is upset that it upsets the other one, so when Craig was tired and having tantrums yesterday it upset Ryan. It's a vicious cycle that I didn't have with only one kid. DH got back today after spending an extra night away (he was too tired to drive home and decided to play it safe). Morning Tea with our Mother's Group was great and we're getting together again at a different girl's house on Friday.

[BrusselsSprout]

Hi Girls,

Brussels - Me too! I'd love to visit! I think the ab exercises you're doing are what we call 'isometric' exercises, like the plank or where you do half a sit up and hold it. My GP said I still have at least a finger-width gap in my abs so I can't start crunches yet. I've been doing isometric exercises and yoga poses since seeing her which will hopefully close it up. Sounds like your personal trainer is pretty good! Stick with it, I'm sure you'll see results soon. But we do all seem to lose the baby weight differently. I lost weight over Christmas without dieting or exercise, but the other new Mum in my Mum's Group (her bub is 5 months old) said today that she's only lost her baby's weight and hasn't lost the rest (and she was much trimmer and fitter than me).

I'm the same with only having lost the baby's weight sucks for me! As for the excercises, that is not it and the physio told me to be very careful not to do those things...be careful beacuse the pressure can cause more opening and also put unneccessary weight on your vaginal and perineal muscles...if you look up "physiotherapy ab exercises" you will find some examples...It is sort of deep breathing then you have to hold the breath and spread the ribs very far with your muscles and usually apply pressure to either your knees, the floor etc..sounds easy but is really VERY VERY hard to do. There is no jerky or strong movement realy just breathing and using your muscles...but it is hard and it hurts!

RE: the mini pill...I read online that it can make some women very hungry and gain weight - I have been feeling hungry lately but am not sure if it is the BF...anyone else feel this way. I also crave sugar where I did not before. I am also breaking out a bit on my face...i am seriously considering going the condom route now...ugh. i hate condoms - I would be glad to hear if you guys are hungrier...I am curious to know if it is the pill or me...

Alison and Beany - clothes! Ha! I am in tights and muumuus! Well not muumuus but the baggy stuff I wore while pregnant! - I tried on a pair of my baggy prematernity jeans and could not slide them over my fat butt! I refuse to even go into my ****tail dresses so depressing!

Alison - you should avoid those ab exercises...try doing side abs and core breathing and resistance rather than the pumping up and down. I think it is safest to maybe see a physio or get a dvd or look up online some good exercises...The physio sacred the crap out of me - she told me "you can do abs if you want, and you'll have a 6 pack but pee in your pants " eeeesh!

And if it makes you feel any better, you should be really happy that you still fit into your "size" even with the muffin top! I used to be a size 4 american (I think that is an 8?) and even as small as a size 2 (so 6 i guess?) at the height of my fitness (hello, one year before getting pregs!) and I cannot even fit into my baggiest stretch pants which are a size 10, I am talking can't even slide them over my ass! Kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok enough whining - I am super tired so am complaining...Dh got the brunt of it tonight! He was like 20 minutes late from the gym and I was in a foul mood and my back hurt from carrying the baby since she would not be put down so I was late on her bath and she was grumpy and tired, so I got annoyed and very nicely ignored him for a good half hour - I did not want to yell so I kept it shut then explained to him that I needed him and that he works a lot and it would be nice if he could be here for bath time. He promptly bathed the baby then brought her to me for a feed then burped and put her to bed. I then proceeded to feel bad since he he really is so helpful and hands on and I was *****ing because he was 20 minutes late

On the good side I ran and speed walked (when I say speed walked I mean FAST) 5k at my training session today! I was sweaty but I could have gone for more! I was so happy and my trainer gave me a big hug and told me that he is happy to see how motivated I am. I didn't want to tell him I tried on pants earlier that day and toyed with the idea of killing myself! lol

But I am aiming to run a 10K race at the end of may, so I was really happy to see that I might have a chance at making it. It took me an hour to do 5K today, and I usually am able to run a 10K in about an hour, so I need to get back there...that is going to be my long term goal and if I get there, I'll be so so so so so happy and proud of myself. So here's hoping....

I am dead, need a shower and a sleep so am off to bed - I think tonight will be 10pm too...but two nights in a row is already not so bad...I'll get to the 9pm sleeptime one of these days!

bis kisses to everyone!

[Carmey]

Morning girls,

How did everyone go last night?

Suz - glad to hear Ryan is settled again. How funny that the boys are in sync - have you heard of that happening before?

Alison - OMG, my muffin top is the worst! I also hate when I sit down and I can feel this tyre of fat all around my waist. My stomach was always super flat and I always had a six-pack. Now I have a 24-pack. Boooooo. However, I am definately going to do more strengthening work, so do things like planks, leg lifts etc rather than sit-ups (thanks Brussel!).

BS - Having that 10km race goal is fantastic. I think it's the quickest way to get to your pre-baby weight. I'm going back to my running group tomorrow night where we do 10km. I have only been doing around 6km at the moment so I'll see how I go. I also have a goal - I want to do the Sydney Half Marathon. Then next summer I'll get back into triathlons (I'm a member of BRATs - Bondi Running and Triathlon club). My old running pace for 21km was 4:40/km. At the moment I am running 5km in 32 minutes. A long way to go!

ATM - Jack slept for 7 hours again. Clever boy! I just have to learn to go to bed when he does. But last night was a double whammy with Desperate Housewives and Brothers & Sisters. Does anyone watch that? I cried and cried!

xx

[Alison1973]

Hi Girls, it looks like a few of us are quite depressed about our weight! At least you girls have age on your side, it's so much harder to trim up in your mid 30's....hang on, I'm 37 this year so I guess I'm in my late 30's now! Doubly depressing!

BS - a size 6 or 8 here is tiny tiny tiny, I haven't been a size 8 since my early 20's! I'd kill to fit into my size 10's and 12's to be honest!

Carmey - wow, running 5 kms, I don't think I could even walk that far at the moment so you go girl. I think you look slim as so you must think I'm a big heffer ha ha! DH took a pic of me and Amelia on the couch the other day, no way am I posting it, it's a close up of my arm and I have tuck shop lady arms for sure! I think I'll have to join the "Biggest Loser" soon.

Today I'm off to see a friend who had a bub a few weeks ago, she lives near a shopping centre so we're going to walk the prams to the shops - it's only about 15 minutes each way but then we'll walk around the shops for a bit so it's good exercise, certainly better than nothing!!!!!! Had another great night, 5th night in a row of Amelia sleeping through, yet again she dropped her last feed, she's done it twice now in the last 5 nights, hope that's ok! So, basically she's sleeping from anywhere around 9.00 pm or 10.00 pm and sleeping through to 6.00 am or 7.00 am. I definitely think the cot is the key as she loves the room, no doubt the formula helps too but I'm still bf'ing before a feed, I figure some is better than none, I'm persevering girls, I'm persevering!

Have a great day everyone!