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  1. #1
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    Nov 2008
    Perth
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    Hi Beany - so great to hear from you and don't worry, you're not alone, I haven't had as much time to post lately as usual either, Amelia's been very clingy this week - gotta love this Wonder WeekSSSSSSSSS lol. She's better today thank goodness but like I said before, I got the crappy night instead ha ha - can't win! I hope Michael's appointment goes well and let me know what they say about his eye. I hadn't noticed anything but I have to say I noticed Amelia has one eye slight different to the other in shape the other day, it's very slight and when I look at myself I have the same thing so could it be something like that? I'm glad she's not the only one rubbing her eyes and like you she sometimes rubs them but won't go to sleep either - yesterday she slept great but today she's now been awake since 10.00 am (after a 1 hour nap) and it's now 1.00 pm and she's still awake. I've just put her in the jolly jumper to wear her out! Hopefully!

    As for your anxiety, you're doing a great job mate, the proof is in the pudding so to speak, he's such a lovely little boy. I think we all have moments of self doubt etc, I think it comes with the territory but if you want to talk you know I'm here. We can have a good chin wag/vent when we catch up with Rose soon. You're a great mum and don't you forget it! xx

    Good luck with his needles, he'll be fine I'm sure, Amelia came out unscathed and they seem to do everything the same so why not that as well! Oh and she slept a lot afterwards so you might get some reprieve there at least. These Wonder Weeks are tough huh.....Amelia's also sucking on her bottom lip now too I've noticed today, I assume that's another sign of teething?

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    Jul 2007
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    Hi Girls,

    Sorry this is a selfish post and I feel bad because it's about my toddler and not my baby, but I don't know the girls in my old babies born thread like I know you girls.

    I had the day from Hell yesterday. Ryan was booked for his immunisations at midday, so I accepted an invite for coffee with a few of our Mother's Group Mums at our local shopping centre that morning. All the kids are Craig's age, but a few Mums have had second babies now a bit older and a bit younger than Ryan. Soon after we got there 2 of the toddlers were looking in Ryan's pram and Craig flew into a rage and ran over, grabbed the boy and bit the back of his shirt (no flesh). I was horrified, grabbed him and made him sit in the pram in timeout while I sat Ryan on my knee. There was a big tantrum, then he calmed down. Things seemed fine again, so I let Craig run around. This time, he was sitting in one of the shopping centre rides (a Wiggles Car) and without any provocation that I could see, he bit one of the girl toddlers on the face! I almost burst into tears on the spot. It was doubly awful because this little girl is really timid. Both Mums were really good about Craig's behaviour and said he was probably tired. We had to get straight in the car and go to our immunisation app. I cried the whole way there in the car. Then started again when I talked to the nurse. Craig hadn't slept since getting up at 7am that morning and I had to wake him. They've booked Craig in to the Sleep School here (QE2) because he won't sleep during the day and I really struggle getting him to bed before 10pm each night. Means he's getting only 8-9 hours a night instead of the 10-13 they recommend for his age. I feel like such an awful Mum because I've been watching his behaviour get worse over the months I've been on Mat Leave and had given up on getting him to sleep during the day, but had never made the connection between the two. We did Controlled Crying with him when he was 12 months old and it worked, so the nurse encouraged me to try it again. So, when we got home I put him to bed and shut the door. He grizzled for about 10 seconds and fell asleep. Last night we put him to bed at 7pm, but he didn't fall asleep until 8:30pm. Hopefully it will be better tonight. I just want my happy sweet little boy back.

    Ryan cried a bit when he got the actual needles, but stopped quickly and was soon smiling. He slept most of the afternoon, then fed 2 hourly for several feeds. He was a bit hot and grizzly so I gave him some Panadol and he went to sleep around 8ish and slept all night. But I didn't get to sleep all night because Craig wet the bed and tried to climb in with us at 2:45am. I had to get up, strip his bed and remake it, put him in clean dry pjs and put him back to bed. That was the first time he's ever wet the bed during the night since ditching the night nappies over 2 weeks ago.

    While we were at the clinic I weighed and measured Ryan, at 19 weeks old he's 68cm and 8.575kg. No wonder I thought his 00 clothes were looking a bit small!

    Hope everyone else that was going for immunisations yesterday (or this week) had a better time than we did!

  3. #3
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    Mar 2009
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    Hi everyone!

    Suz - what a god awful day!! Good friends of mine had Tweedle (a melbourne sleep school I think) come and do a home consultation with their toddler and had great results. I think it pretty much involved letting their toddler cry it out for about an hour the first night and it improved heaps from there. And he sleeps through now instead of getting his mum and dad up 4 times a night! So I hope you get just as good results. It sounds like you've already had improvements. And maybe better night sleeps will actually help him sleep during the day because he won't be so overtired and cranky. You are doing such a fabulous job. I don't know how you juggle toilet training, toddlers, baby, future renovations! All of us with just the one bub are in awe!!

    Beany - You sound so anxious you poor thing. I know what it's like. As you probably guessed from some of my mid-night posts I get anxiety attacks when my neck/back play up. It's an awful feeling. But don't underestimate how wonderful you and Michael are doing. I'm always impressed at how well you get Michael to self settle most of the time. But don't worry if it's not all of the time (most bubs never do!). They're all going through a bit of fussy spot at the moment. Hope the doctor can tell you if there's anything going on with his eye.

    Alison - Matilda rubs her eyes whenever she feeds too. I think it might be a self-soothing thing they do when they're feeling all content with a full tummy. It's very cute. I hope you had a better night with Amelia. She's such a wriggler isn't she! Matilda barely moves an inch (too heavy probably ).

    Kanda - I hope Sienna is feeling better after her needles.

    Willow - Hope you had a good day after your good night. I actually find Matilda sleeps better during the day after a good night so here's hoping BTW I've tried using the hip seat again after my physio raved about them. I think I used it incorrectly the first time. I'm still not convinced it's not aggravating my lower back but if I just use it for a short time to stroll around the garden it seems ok and it does take a lot of stress of my upper back, shoulders and neck. So you may want to give one a go - especially if you could get one cheaply on Ebay.

    Rose - hope things have calmed down after the needles. You're doing great at going with the flow. Babies seem to be all about the flow huh!

    BS - Thinking of you in NY you lucky thing! Love, love, love NY!

    Hannah - How's things with you at the moment. White noise still doing the trick?

    Carmey - Saw that you've moved (from your FB post). Wow! You must have been sooooo busy.

    Big hugs to everyone else too busy to post lately.

    AFM - Well we had our needles yesterday. I was all psyched up for a terrible night because she hadn't been sleeping well anyway. We've had a few nights of 2 or 3 feeds, not wanting to resettle and then up for the day at 4:30 or 5:30. Not fun! But after a big scream for a couple of minutes and a bit of "I feel very sorry for myself" whimpering, she had a bit of a nap and then was down for the night at 6:30 and only fed once, resettled quickly and slept in until 6:30am. Bliss! I never thought I'd consider 6:30 a sleep in LOL!! And it looks like she might have made it past the 45 minute hump this morning. Hopefully it's not just the vaccinations that made her sleep well last night and we'll go back to our usual one feed a night routine. Just wondering if anyone has tried to encourage their bubs to get attached to any comforters or soft toys as a way of getting them to resettle during the night? And is anyone else still wrapping? I'm still wrapping after a couple of gos with the bag. Because she's a bit unsettled lately its hard to tell whether she's waking up with the bag or is just unsettled anyway.

  4. #4
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    Nov 2008
    Perth
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    Hi Suz - oh dear you poor thing what a horrible day you had! Biting is a stage isn't it? I've heard of lots of littleons doing that. I'm sure your friends understood. Let's hope he starts to sleep better and it will help solve a lot of the problems. I'd be cranky on lack of sleep too. Wow Ryan is a nice healthy boy lol......Amelia's still in 00's but I'm not sure for how long, I am going to take her and have her weighed with the health nurse next week out of interest.

    Hi Tilda - glad Matilda's needles went well as well. I find Amelia always sleeps really well after her needles, hope it stays that way for you. To answer your question re toys etc, I've just started putting one of Amelia's toys in the bed with her at night - it's a mouse/rat thing that I got from Ikea and she loves it, it's in some of her pics. Anyway, since doing that I've found she settles herself if she wakes up in the night and I don't even have to go in her room half the time anymore, she likes to hang onto it, she's one of these babies who has to have a security blankie type thing lol, it's really cute. So yes give it a try. I figure they can't suffocate anymore as they can move it away and roll etc. Let me know if it works for you.

    Well, a quick post for me, gotta have a shower while Missy Moo is sleeping.

    Hi to everyone else, hope everyone and their bubs are all well. xx

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    Jul 2009
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    Suzi What a sh** day especially when you're not feeling well I would guess that the other mums were right about Craig being tired and when you're tired and cranky with limited communication skills then biting would be a great, quick effective, way of showing his frustration. Don't you feel awful, you've been a bit tired yourself, and trying to deal with toilet training you're allowed to let things slide every now and then, you can't be on top of everything all the time!! You are human! ...Truth be known I've been letting my 16yr olds behaviour get a bit out of hand too since Harry arrived I'm only just getting back onto that the last few weeks. I was doing the old turn a blind eye and hope it sorts it's self out and honestly I think 2yr old behaviour and 16yr old behaviour is very similar...give an inch and they'll take a mile!
    I hope you're feeling better now and hopefully the boys don't come down with the cold as well.
    I hope the QE2 works out too, I didn't realise they worked with toddlers as well. Will you go and stay there with him? Or do they do home visits now? Sounds like you're getting the job done on your own judging by your FB status
    Glad the needles went well, at least that was one plus for the day!
    I've been meaning to let you know for a couple of weeks now(and anyone else that might be interested), I think you mentioned looking for some Grobags on ebay, there's a store on ebay selling "Slumbersacs" (the same as grobags) it's a new store with an introductory sale for Aussies on their Slumbersacs with free shipping. They are all brand new bags, I got a 1tog bag for $32.99 absolute bargain! I received mine about 2weeks from the day I ordered and that was with the Easter public holidays in the middle which I thought was pretty good seeing as they came from the UK. The store is called
    Designer-Kids-baby- Oz
    Thanks for the BB contact list, I emailed you the builders details



    Tilda No such luck with the good day he pretty crabby and then had an even worse night
    Ok I might have another look into the hip seat then, I am loving my new Ergo at the moment, but the hip seat could be good for quick walks in the garden like you said or even just running into the shop? Do you think?
    I've tried to encourage a little bear Harry likes as a comforter for sleeping, I also was hopeful of thumb sucking, but he seems to have stopped that now, he was keen on the bear for a while but I think he's getting over that now too. It would have been good for him to have a comfort thing to help him settle because he's not very good at it himself...actually he's terrible...breast is the most reliable settler for him now, or the swing, which I really try not to rely on too much because he will grow out of it and then I'm stuffed!! I don't think yo u can make a baby be attached to a comforter, if they are they are if they're not they're not, but I'm still giving it a go in hope! DS1 had a stuffed dog that he loved, wouldn't go to bed with out it (very cute) but DS2 never attached himself to anything so they're all different.
    Glad needles went well for you too.

    Beany Anxiety is horrible I've been there too, I still have the odd attack but not too regularly thank god. You are doing a great job with Michael so don't question yourself, I too am impressed with how well you settle him, an d he's happy and healthy and really seems to be thriving so don't change a thing you're doing great!
    Hope the needles went ok, and very keen to hear about the little blisters, I'm sure they're nothing serious but would like to know what the GP says and compare note with my DS's spots.

    Alison Bummer about swimming! Glad needles went well with Amelia too.
    The bottom lip thing could be teething, could be just that she's found her lip too and it tastes good, mmmm bottom lip , omg I'm starting to talk crap now, I apologise! It must be the Wonder Week getting to me along with the lack of sleep.
    Is the amber teething necklace still helping? How is it that they work is it the amber? I guess it is but I'm still curious, where did you get it from?

    Hope everyone's having a good weekend!

  6. #6
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    Dec 2007
    Perth
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    Hello Ladies!

    Willow - Thank you I can't help but think that its Michael who is doing all the good work...he's such a wonderful baby, I think I'm just lucky! (see below about the blister-things)

    Alison - Wow, thats great you haven't had to get up to Amelia during the night! I"m still getting up for Michael...but to be honest, I dont' really mind. So long as its only once or twice, and just to pop the dummy in. I've had a couple of early mornings where he just won't go back to sleep! They're yucky. Actually, yes MIchael has been sucking on his bottom lip...but I've found its usually a sign that he's starting to get cranky and he makes a groaning type noise at the same time.

    Tilda - Good on little Matilda! She's a tough little cookie So glad to hear she is sleeping better now. I tried to get Michael onto a comforter thing...a little taggie blanket thing, but found that if I put him down with it, he'll just play with it instead of going to sleep! So, I've given up on it. I haven't wrapped him since he was about 10 weeks I think, I don't think he would stand for it now...he loves to have his hands up and out!

    Suz1 - oh you poor thing - what a day. I think I would have cried too. Hopefully its just a phase, and it was great the other mums were understanding. What happens at a sleep school? I'm not too familiar with it.

    AFM - Well, went to see the GP...this is a new GP I haven't seen before (I was all excited to get into this medical centre since my other one closed and they previously weren't taking new patients), anyway not too sure if I"m happy with this GP or not. She had a look at the rash on his cheeks which she said looks like its related to his eczema, which I had already suspected, and just to put sorbelene on it. She looked at his eye and couldn't see any difference in the function of the eye, he was moving it ok and the pupil looked fine. She also looked at the white blisters on his willy...said they're just on the skin so probably they're ok and will disappear in time. But I dunno, she just didn't fill me with confidence. I'm actually thinking of getting a 2nd opinion on both his eye and his willy.

    The needles were a bloomin palaver too. I'd booked him in to the same medical centre for his immunisations..but when we got there they said the only had one of the injections there (cos of the storm they lost power and a lot of their "injection stuff"...the word fails me at the mo!). I wish they'd told me earlier! They did say they could give one today and one next week. Pfft. Luckily the immunisation clinic was on the same day anyway so we just drove there and got them done. He screamed for about 30 seconds and then was ok. By the time we got back to the car he'd forgotten all about it! That evening he was fine, his normal self. But it wasn't till about lunchtime the next day I noticed he felt a bit hot, so took his temperature and he had a mild fever of 37.8. He didn't seem too bad, just a bit more whingey than normal and off his food a bit. Not sure if he had this reaction last time as I didn't have my thermometre. But he went to sleep ok and slept like normal at night. Phew!

    Went to the BAby & Kids market today, for the first time. Hmm! Wasn't very well organised, it was too small a location so people couldn't take their prams around, it was really cramped too. I got a play gym thing for $10, not bad! But got a shock at some of the prices some people charge! I mean honestly!

    Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend

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    Jul 2009
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    Hi Beany Glad the needles went ok. $10 play gym sounds good! As for the GP, it's good that she seemed to think everything was all good, but if you're not sure go with your gut, it can never hurt to get a second opinion, after all they are 2 quite important bits you're dealing with! If nothing else it'll put your mind at rest. And loosing a lot of their injection stuff ( the word fails me at the moment too lol) only some of it? I would have thought all of it, probly good you didn't have it done there, unless the ones they still had didn't need cool storage maybe?