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    Mar 2009
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    Suz, great weight loss! That's wonderful....as for the daycare thing, I find myself just staring at Eva and wanting to cry a bit...I know I'll be fine, it is just hard at first, but I am so sad to imagine not seeing her until evening...I am preparing her stuff for Monday and just getting sad about it...DH is away this weekend for a motorcycle trip in Corsica so I am really trying to enjoy every moment of one on one time with her and she has done plenty of cool stuff since yesterday (I'll get to that at the end). Can't wait to see your photos! Been a while since you put pics up!

    Alison, put up hair pics! And for the belly thing, you should just leave her, it is actually a good position for self settling to be on the belly. My paed explained to me when Eva was very small that many babies have a preference but usually belly sleepers stay more still when they sleep, so maybe try to leave her like that (I think what suz said is pretty valid - If she can roll, she can lift her head up...)...Maybe try leaving her for a belly sleep just for a nap first to see what happens? Good on you for the weight loss, it is amazing how much you lost and how quickly when you just decided to go for it! It is also pretty cool that you neighbor has a baby around the same age and Amelia - I hope she is nice, because it would be great to have a friend next door later for playdates and babysitting and sleepovers and all that. My good friend who has a baby the same age as Eva is wonderful to have and when she goes out her baby sleeps over my place sometimes, and I look forward to seeing both of them grow up and be buddies (hopefully, if they get along)

    For the self settling, Eva has been doing that since about 2 months (since she went into her own room...I think for her belly sleeping was a big thing, but what I noticed helps a lot is a night routine. She goes into her bath every night bet 530-630, then has her pyjama on and a bit of relaxed playtime and bit of her mobile, then I come in, flip her to her belly, give her the pacifier and her little soft doll and she starts settling down...I noticed she really rubs the little doll on her face when she is heading to sleep (maybe you can try giving amelia a little soft plush to cuddle up to? When Eva was a baby I used to put the doll in my shirt during the day so it would smell like me...Not sure if it worked, but I tried...Eva will even rub a little muslin on her face to get to sleep during the day, so maybe see if that helps. Alos, I noticed it best to leave the room...At first I used to pet her and stuff but she would never fall asleep knowing I was there, so I started just giving her a good cuddle, putting her down, petting her head a bit then stepping out...I would watch her at first and noticed she was way less fussy when I would just leave. Also, I think it helps to have a mobile or toy so she has something to look at while in bed, and eventually she'll be ok just putting herself to sleep. I still have some rare days when Eva wants to be rocked to sleep, but that is usually when she is ill or really way over tired or stimulated (like if she knows there are ten people outside of her bedroom having dinner)...Maybe start by just trying to let her self settle for naps and see how it goes. Ultimately every baby is different, so you have to see what works with her.

    Beany, I saw the pics of Michael's teeth! Whoa! Eva doesn't have anything popping through...Maybe she will be a late teether, although I have to say that for a moment there, she was chomping down on everything and dribbling all over herself and now it seems to have settled down...but let me not get too excited, since it might come back as soon as I get too comfortable! As for Michael's waking, I am sure it is a wonder week, he seems to be going through it all at once with teeth and ww and all that...Just keep positive and ask DH to help out on weekends so you can catch up on sleep a bit...

    Rose, good job thinking of the dose...with everything you have going on it is normal you didn't think about it! Have you tried belly sleeping him yet? Hope he settles down - reflux is so awful and seeing bub suffer is just worse than anything...I would stay awake for five days rather than seeing Eva in pain when eating again You're really strong for getting through this for so long.

    Hey Kawa, great that she loves veggies! My paed told me to start only veggoes since lots of babies reject them after tasting yummy fruit - so makes your life easier! Yay for the rolling - it is so cute, but there is no more leaving them unattended on their mats!!!

    Kanda, I am so glad the trip went well. I told you the vibrating airplane seems to calm them but man what a whopper of a trip! I would have been so stressed beforehand, but enjoy the European summer and the art in florence etc...Italy is so good for relaxation (except for Rome! The driving there is scary!!! ) and food and sun etc...I am sure it will do you tons of good to be away from it all and enjoy rest with your family.

    Hi to everyone else! Lani, Carmey, Sesame, Willow, Hannah etc etc etc...

    AFM, Eva has decided that since her papa is away and her mother is depressed about daycare to get all the cool stuff done this weekend - I guess she does not want me to miss things when she goes to daycare! Friday, she started rolling again...She had done it before around the 4 month mark and did it for about a day, and then never again. I am not sure she was conscious of what she was doing...yesterday i gave her some naked time and then put her on a towel on the floor of her bedroom while I changed her sheets and bam she starts rolling! I put her on her back a few times and each time she rolled over faster than before. And this time she seemed really excited about it...This morning, I wanted to see if she would stop again so I put her on her back before her morning nap, and she watched her mobile for a bit then rolled over to her belly for her sleep! So I think she will be doing it a lot more now. She still does not do belly to back though, but she tries constantly - her arm just gets in the way since she leaves it pointing straight out. I was worried abouther not rolling at all since she is older then the rest of your babies but she does it now - I think she just didn't feel like it since the last time...but now I have to keep an eye on her allll the time.

    She has also mastered the reverse on her walker! it is so funny, Her feet don't touch the floor flat enough but I am sure she'll be advancing once she does.

    Then to top off the evening, she ate her cereal with a smile!!! I was starting to worry that she would be very difficult with the solids and last night she ate with no problems for a change (she usually fusses throughout the 3 spoons or so I try to give her!!!) - she did not eat a huge quantity but a few spoons which is a LOT more than anything else she let me give her before. I realized that what helped was giving her her own spoon dipped in a bit of cereal because she fed herself at first then let me give her food, so it was really cute - I had been letting her hold a spoon since I started the solids and I think she is getting used to the idea, and I have been sitting her near us while we eat and leaving a sippy cup on her tray so she gets used to it. She kept bringing the spoon into her mouth in alernation with me. She is so cute

    Anyway, off to enjoy a weekend with my gorgeous girl and counting down to Monday, hoping I don't back out and go running to the border with Eva in my arms

    I know it will be fine and it will get easier, but after so many months of reflux, it is hard for me to not enjoy being with her when everything is getting so interesting and easy to manage...so is life! We have a business to run!

    Kisses to you all and to your bubs and have a gorgeous weekend!

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    wow glad everyone is having a good time..

    yeh those wonder weeks suck. i think we are amidst one right now 4am feede really suck

    lol no she doesn't go to teh wall, but spins in circles lol and gets her self under the coffee table very funny..

    yeh i miss the unatended while i ran to the loo moments lol oh well ill be getting a strong bladder again.

    Suzi, good work on the photo shoot i have been putting one off as i cant seem to get them happy adn awake at teh same time it will come im sure.

    gotta run its only a quick break here.

    oh my buisness, is making nappyb free time mats and nappies and baby stuff like that, finally putting my hobby to work.

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    Oooh, we got a new forummmmm

    Happy Mother's day to you all!

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    Nov 2008
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    Oooh bit fancy!!!!!

    HAPPY MOTHERS DAY everyone, hope you had special days today. I got flowers and a card that hubby wrote in with his left hand to make it look like Amelia had done it lol....and my pendant with Amelia's fingerprint for my necklace.

    I weighed in for my 12 week challenge this morning too......I've put on 300 grams this week grrr - new I had as I was a bit naughty last week with the food - still lost 1 cm off my waist and 1cm of my hips though thank goodness.

    Back on track this week for sure! One of the girls I used to work with (the one who irritates me) told me she's down to her pre-pregnancy weight......she doesn't look it to be honest - still has a belly but anyway it's made me more determined now. Stupid I know but she always has to outdo me and I let it get to me, grrr!

    So, what did everyone else get up to today? xx

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    Happy Mothers Day to you all.

    Wow the new forum looks great.

    Sorry I have been MIA I have been without my iPhone and hadn't got notifications. Then realised we had a new thread.

    I have had a lovely first mothers day. My boys spoilt me. I got new slippers, a knitted dress/jumper, flowers, and have a charm for my pandora bracelet coming and got taken out for breakfast. We went to my MIL's for afternoon tea and then went out for Mexican with my parents and sister.
    A beautiful day had by me

    Jett has been a little sick over the weekend he has had a temperature and runny nose. He has just gone to bed now.

    Hope everyone has had a great day!

    Kawa your bussiness sounds great where are you selling the stuff?

    Kanda hope u are having a great time. Hope the girls get over the jetlag quickly.

    Alison your pendant sounds great. How cute of DH.

    Suz glad to hear the photo shoot went well.

    BS good luck with returning to work. I am sure Eva will be great at daycare.

    Sorry if I have missed anyone.

    Night night all xx

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    Hello everyone!

    Ooooh....not sure about this new format! I feel all disoriented! How do you do smilies???

    I hope everyone had a lovely Mothers Day! What did everyone get?

    Rose - Oh, sorry to hear you've been having a rough time of it lately. Has it been getting any better? Saw you got a Wii for Mothers Day! What a fantastic present! And yes, I'm keen to catch up soon. When is a good time for you? I'm good for anytime except Thurs arvy's.

    Kawazuki - Gosh, thats good, liking vegies more than fruit! Hopefully that means she'll eat healtlhy stuff without to much fuss!

    Alison - Dont' worry about that girl from work...judging by some of her past comments, I wouldn't be surprised if she's nowhere near her pre-preg weight. I'm afraid I dont' really have any tips for self settling. Even when I try to "settle" him, by patting, rocking, etc...he'll have none of it. I just put him down, stick the dummy in, maybe rub his head (his eyes roll around when I do that...love it!) and walk off. It can take a while, usually at least 10-15 mins unless he's mega tired. He usually chats, spits the dummy out (so I might be in and out 3-4 times putting the dummy back in), plays with his dummy, rolls around, grabs his feet...but eventually he will wear himself out and go to sleep. I've started closing the blinds during the day to help him get to sleep too. Thats about all I can say really, sorry I can't be more help. And my DH did the exact same thing, writing in the card with his left hand! Thats so cute

    Suz - ooh, that sounds like just what I'm after! And thanks for the tip re using it under the potty...genius! It was MIchael's bottom right that came through first too! Oooh, sounds like you'll have some nice photos...when do you get them?

    Kanda - Ohhh, so jealous! Hope you're having a fantastic time!!

    BS - wow, what a day! Eva is doing so much! Thats a great tip re leaving the sippy cup out so they get used to it! I can't imagine Michael ever getting to the stage of drinking from a sippy cup...I'm tryign to wean him off the 1m+ teats that he's been on for ages...he hates anything where it comes out too fast...he just loves to suck, and hard! Good luck for work tomorrow...

    Hello everyone else!

    AFM - had a v busy Mother's Day. Got my pressies in the morning, 2 new charms for my pandora bracelet - a lady bird and a hedgehog. Then cooked full breakfast for DH parents. They didnt' leave till lunchtime, so put Michael down for his nap, then when he woke it was off to visit my dad & his g/f (they just moved house, and I gave his g/f a card and some flowers since she doesn't have any kids of her own), then it was back home again and time to start our night routine. So, bit sad I didn't get to do anything for myself on my first Mothers Day, and spent the morning cooking and cleaning...but DH has promised he'll make it up to me next w/e.

    I have a teeny suspicion that Michael may have some more teeth moving around...he's started again with the fingers/fist in the mouth. Not more already, surely??

    He rolled from tummy to back twice today....yay! Not so lazy after all! And, for the first time, he put his arms out to be picked up!!!! That was so cool, MIL was taking him off DH and he totally put his arms up to her!! Was amazing!

    Going to try and put Michael's name down at a few childcare centres tomorrow I've already got him on the waiting list for Family Day Care. So depressing. I wish I didn't have to. Also going to try and make an appt with the CHN, I think Michael's eczema is getting worse on his back, I'm not sure sorbelene is doing the trick anymore...poor little munchkin.

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    Happy Mother's Day everyone!

    Sounds like you all got spoiled, though it sucks that you had to do cooking and stuff, beany!

    Alison - I'm with beany, too - bet that girl is nowhere near her pre-pregnancy weight!

    AFM - Still having rough nights with Liam - last night he was up feeding every two hours again. And every time he was *hungry*, so it's not just a comfort thing. I'm now thinking maybe it's the six month growth spurt come early? I dunno, I have a different theory every day, really. I guess it doesn't really matter what it is - teething and growth spurt will pass and we're dealing with his reflux (and BS, I think you asked - I've been sleeping him on his tummy for a while now, I think it definitely helps. I was worried at first about tummy sleeping, but he can roll around so well that it's not an issue now. He just rolls over if he's not comfy anyway now).

    Basically I'm just trying to weather this period and go back to sleeping during the day (which usually means sleeping with Liam on me, or getting someone else to watch him while he sleeps). We've increased his reflux meds (and may increase them again, depending on what my GP says, or go to see a paed if needed). I'm still limiting dairy, and have started block feeding again since he's been having issues with my oversupply again (and to deal with the possibility that it's a foremilk/hindmilk imbalance thing). We were pretty set on waiting until six months until solids, but if this keeps up, I may try him on some to see if it helps. I don't remember if anyone else is planning on doing baby-led weaning here? That's our plan, anyway.

    I got desperate enough on Friday night (and exhausted enough - had a couple of very bad days with the PND last week where I would have happily given Liam away to anyone) to try giving him a bottle of formula, to see if it would hold him any better at night. And he was having none of it. He's still not overly keen on bottles of expressed milk, though he'll take one if he's hungry enough, so I guess I just get to deal with feeding him a lot.

    And now I'm rambling. And yes, I got a Wii (and Wii Fit Plus) for Mother's Day. Just did the profile thingie and yeesh, not good! I really need to get my act in gear and start trying to drop some of this weight and get fitter. Hopefully the Wii fit will help I'm still kind of annoyed that I'm not one of those women who magically lose the baby weight, but eh, can't do much about it. I can do something about what I put into my mouth, though!

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    Hi Girls!

    Happy Mother's Day everyone!

    Rose - I find the Wii Fit is good for motivation and very easy to just hop on and get your 30 minutes when you get a free moment. I'm not exactly sure what Baby Led Weaning is. With Craig I didn't force him to drop any breast feeds, he just stopped doing them one by one until he was 10 months old and only feeding once a day before bedtime. I kept it up for a month and then swapped it for cows milk in a cup when he was 11 months old. I was trying to break the feeding to sleep habit before starting childcare. This time with Ryan I'll do the same thing, but will see what we do with that last night feed when we get to it. Ryan's also feeding more frequently so I'm thinking growth spurt / wonder week?

    Beany - That's just gorgeous! My favourite memory is when Craig first held his arms out to be picked up. I keep watching Ryan to see if he'll do it, but he's still at the 'lean and throw my body towards you' phase if he's in someone's arms and when he's in his cot on his back he waves his arms wildly (Danger Will Robinson!) Ryan 'self settles' the same way as Michael, maybe it's a boy thing? It's as if they need to do things by themselves without our help Eczema is horrible (I get it and have a nasty patch on my chest ATM) but I'm not sure what's safe for a little bub? I've used Alpha Keri lotion on a couple of patches of eczema on Ryan and it cleared them up.

    Lani - Sounds like you had a lovely Mother's Day. Missed seeing you post, glad you've got your iPhone back Sorry to hear that Jett's sick, hope he's feeling better soon.

    Alison - Bummer about the weight gain this week, but you'll get back on track and you still lost cms. I did the same with the card for DH's first Father's Day from Craig (with my left hand). Your walk in the National Park sounds like a lovely thing to do for Mother's Day. Ignore that workmate of your's, even if she has lost the weight she sounds like she's done nothing to tone up. You'll be all taut and terrific and she'll still be flabby.

    Brussels - Oh that's so cute that Eva is busting out the development moves for you before starting daycare! Craig took his first steps the weekend before he started in daycare. It's like they 'know' or something. Ryan's also big on his bedtime routine and grizzles at me until I start to strip him for his bath. He starts to relax and smile again before I've even got him in, as if he knows he's going to bed soon.

    Kawazuki - Yes how funny is it when they roll under the coffee table?! Good luck with your business, would love to see some examples of your wares

    Kanda - So glad to hear you got to Italy in one piece and both girls were good for you on the plane! Hope you all have a lovely time!

    AFM - Wow, I really really want a Pandora bracelet but DH is totally clueless about them. I'm lucky I have an eternity ring and I'm sure I only got that because I talked about buying my own after Ryan was born. My pressie is the photos from the photo shoot, which I get to see next Wednesday. The boys took me out for breakfast, then we shopped a little bit (DH shopped, I chased Craig around with Ryan in the pram) and went to the fish shop to get some more fish for my tank. In a week or so I'll have it fully stocked again. Craig is hilarious, I caught him standing on a dining chair trying to open one of the glass lids on the tank today. He loves to feed the fish and Ryan laughs as they all zoom around eating the food.

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    Hey girlies, back on after an hour and a half walk in the forest with the princess

    So for me it is not actually mother's day, well it is in the USA, but having a French husband and living in Belgium means I don't get mother's day until June! So all of my american and anglo friends have wished me a happy mother's day but I am like, well DH is away on a boys motorcycle trip ...lol. I am sure he will plan something great for the french mother's day and I am sure we'll be celebrating with the in laws.

    Alison, that girl is so damn annoying. I am sure she was overweight when she got preg and is still not down - I feel like she is just a fake bragger. But if it motivates you to keep going, then let's just say she lost it all... She is just annoying with her bragging - I don't even know her and she annoys me! PS - what a nice pendant! I saw your pics on facebook - Amelia was dressed so cute! And you look really good by the way! You can see that you are losing and feeling better!

    Lani, I am glad your day was so gorgeous - you deserve it ! Isn't it great having our babies then getting spoiled by Dh! We really are a lucky bunch.

    Beany, I recently weaned Eva off of the 1s - it was actually DH that sort of insisted, because she would take super long to feed and he noticed she would really get tired by the end of a bottle and we found that she sucked hard and got more gas.... We started switching over to 2s but she would get milk all over the place and have to be changed after every feed. And finally DH just wanted to try only using 2s and that worked, although she does dribble a bit more than with the 1s but she finishes faster and is less problematic with food and finishes her bottles wich she was not doing every time before...I think the 2 teats are what helped her get to the 4 hour feeding sched - she is like clockwork now. For the sleeping I have to also go in and put the dummy back quite often sometimes, but it is because Eva will drop it to nibble on her plush, then she won't settle back down to sleep so I have to pop it back in etc...but she is not fussy at all. She looooves her bed a lot. Yay for the rolling!!! Eva rolled again on Saturday a few times but has stopped again...I don't get that girl... lol...She also reacts to be picked up but instead of lifting her arms she arches up gher back, like she wants to sit up to meet the person, but it must have been so cute to see him strecth out! I can't wait to see her do that! - as for Mother's day, it is nice of you to have spoiled so many other people but you deserve a great WE so I am glad DH will make it up to you next week!

    Rose, I am glad you're belly sleeping him - with Eva it made a HUGE difference. I am really sorry about him not taking a bottle. Eva was the same too, I think that since they are in pain it becomes a comfort thing...have you tried to get DH to give it? I had to try the bottle about 5 times before she took it well, and the first time I gave her formula it was also a few tries, because they don't recognize the taste so if you really want him taking it, then you should just try a few times and nurse if he complains, but he'll eventually get it...But be sure you want to go there. I think you are having a hard week, so try to rest...I know how that feels - I broke down with eva at the beginning twice with formula (the only two times ever before I stopped at 4 months, and I had to really keep giving it to her and dripping some milk in her mouth and then I remember her being so full and sleeping for like 5 hours - at that point I needed that so much - it was during one of those 4am hysterical I am going to throw this baby out of the window nights. So I do hope the feeling passes but if you are really at wits end, then don't feel bad giving one bottle, as it might just help you get back a bit of sanity. What did your doctor say? Ours told us that she had to take her meds until 5 months and one the meds she was much better...we had something called omneoprezole, which was actually an adult medicine, that the pharmacy had to make into baby syrup for her - the gaviscon here is over the counter, so maybe you should see if you can get a prescription for something more potent? I only had to give it every morning, and it really changed her overnight...The prob with reflux is that if it continues for so long it damages the esophagus, and he will have a longer healing process to go through, so maybe see if you can get something stronger? What we had was an acid neutralizer and it really was amazing for her. I really hope he settles down for you soon. It has to end soon, no? The poor little guy Congrats ont he wii and I hope this week is waaaay better than the last!

    AFM, well I finished packing Eva's bag of supplies for daycare...I enjoyed every moment of today with her. I am so sad she is starting but am happy she will be able to socialize and get out of the house (although my house is better equipped with toys than any daycare ont he planet!) - She only goes in three days a week and MIL will keep her for Thru and Fri so I can run upstairs and see her on those afternoons (our office and apt are int he same building). I am also happy to get back to a sort of schedule and to do some work. DH needs me there so I need to get back to it.

    As for the rolling, like I mentioned, she did it a few times the morning after I filmed her and no more after that! At least I got it on film this time - last time I told DH and he was watching her for days waiting for the roll that never came

    She has gotten great with her solids and is feeding herself larger quantities (I put up some pics) and she LOVES her cup - I gave her a tiny bit of water just to get her using the cup and she kept wanting more and more. I also bought a sort of clip on handle for her bottles so she can get used to holding her bottles, and later her cup and she has been holding her own bottles for a part of her feed. So I am happy to report that her solids thing seems to be advancing and that's good because she seems a lot more hungry (she even woke up at 330am for a night feed yesterday! so had 5 feeds instead of 4 today).

    She is getting slightly clingy with me though, and complains when I leave the room - I think it is the ww thing...I just hope that won't be a problem when I have to leave her at daycare - this week is just an initiation week of half days and tom I will prob be told to stay with her so I don't think I'll go nuts tom and DH gets back tom night, so at least if I am a wreck Tuesday he can console me

    Anyway girls, I am off to catch up on the no sleep from last night and keep your fingers crossed for me for tom (that I don't cry!!! lol - I won't but I might feel like it!).

    xoxo

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    Hey suz! we posted at the same time! You have to put up some pics of craig and that fish tank! Does DH have a sister, maybe you can tell a female family member to help him get you a bracelet

    xoxo