Babies Born~June 1st-15th 2009 #1

[jenushka]

Clare - so lovely to see you in here, glad you found this thread! Great to hear that everything is going so well with little Lachlan.

Just back from my follow up glucose test (that drink is still disgusting!), fingers xd that the diabetes has gone for good. Will find out results at my ob appt on Tuesday.... and Lila has really stepped up her feeds again over the last 24 hrs, going back to mainly three hourly with a few feeds 2 hours apart. Together with her going without a poo for almost 2 days (which I know is normal in bf bubs but she was doing huge ones daily) it looks like we're going through a bit of a growth spurt. Do they have them at 6 weeks? Can't remember. Am looking forward to her check up on Tues as well to see if she really is getting as big as I think she is!

Joey - boo to dh having to work! Will he get a day in lieu in return or anything like that? As far as I thought too jabs weren't due until 2 months (according to the red book in QLD), though maybe they can go earlier or might be a state-by-state thing? I took ds to the council clinics for jabs and they were great, and plan on doing the same thing with Lila.
Thank you for the invite, but next Thursday/Friday I won't be able to make brunch - ds has kindy photos Thurs which I have to take him in for as he doesn't normally go Thursdays, and Friday I'll be down at Mums on the gold coast all day. Bugger! Other than next week, Tues and Wed are normally best for us as ds is in kindy and I'm actually able to have a conversation when I catch up with ppl!

Nothing else planned for the weekend for us, might break out the slow cooker again though. So good in this chilly weather!

xx

[joey123]

Jenushka - I don't know if he'll get a day in leiu. Probably not, I did ask him that this morning and he didn't know. We don't have to catch up next week. How about we make it the following? I'm out on the back varandah in the sun and couldn't be bothered getting the calendar to see if I have anything on, but I'm not a very big social butterfly, so I don't think I will. What suits you best?

What about you Monique? Is one day better than another? I'm fine with either.


LIly is feeding all over the place during the day, and I don't really care, so long as she sleeps at night. I gave her a 5 minute feed at 9.15am and another one at 10.45am, so that's only 1.5 hours. She was probably more tired than hungry, but I didn't want to risk putting her down and her crying cause she was hungry, so I fed her about 7 mins and then she went down after about 4 mins crying.

How do your bubs go to sleep? Do they cry themselves or do you cuddle them to sleep and then put them down? "They" say that you should cuddle them to sleep till about 4 months. But that doesn't work for us.

Have a good weekend!

[ClareBear28]

Joey - Here in NSW they recommend that babies get their whooping cough (pertussis) combination injection at 6 weeks (because there has been an outbreak in northern NSW), I'm not sure whether they will also give him his other 8 week immunisations on the same day or make us go back in 2 weeks - guess I'll find out when we get there I'm not sure whether this applies in other states, I just know that NSW Health is taking the possibiloty of a whooping cough outbreak very seriously - I even received a letter in the mail 'strongly' recommending that we get Lachlan immunised at 6 weeks rather than waiting til 8 weeks..

[jenushka]

Clare - thanks for the info re immunisations in NSW - it's great that whooping cough is being taken so seriously. DH and I had our wc boosters when Lila was 6 days old, and I'm really hanging out for Lila to be able to have her jabs, especially with a ds in daycare being exposed to absolutely everything! Hope it all goes well today...

Joey - Tuesday/Wed next week would be best (they are ds free days!) if these also suit others? Re sleep, most of the time we just wrap Lila and put her in her bassinette/cot awake but quiet and she self settles, just quietly nods off within 5 mins or so. Believe me I know absolutely how lucky I am to have that, because ds was the complete and total opposite and used to have me in tears because he would just never sleep!!! Sometimes in the afternoon when Lila's normally slightly more unsettled or if we've missed her tired signs we'll have to rock her to sleep. And we have been using a dummy occaisonally for the last couple of weeks too - Lila doesn't love it as much as ds did, but it has helped her sometimes to relax enough to nod off to sleep, then she'll normally spit it out after a few minutes anyway

Having said all of that, Lila was pretty unsettled last night. Sounded pretty snuffly and blocked up so we think she might have ds's cold. No temp or any other signs which is good but just need to clear her up. I'll get some of those saline drops today and give them a try but haven't used them before - does anyone know if they work?

[*Infinity*]

Jen - yep the saline drops worked for us. Had to get them for Will a week or so ago - he had lots of boogers and generally blocked up and snuffly. They work a treat and are easy to give them too. Try to do it when bub is settled or asleep. They work pretty quickly too.

Joey - about the settling stuff...we do a mixture of things depending on how Will is travelling. Sometimes I'm fortunate and I can put him down happy and he will look around for a while and then nod off on his own (not very often though). Most of the time at night he'll settle on my shoulder after burping or with a cuddle - he's a real little possum. Other times I can rock him to sleep in the pram. We've only had to put him down crying once or twice when we've both been absolutely spare.

Sat night was funny - I went to bed after putting Will down at 11pm - DP was still up watching telly - turns out Will ended up partying on all night until 5am - he was up watching rage with his Dad all night - would cat nap for 20 mins or so then be up again. I was oblivious to it all until I woke at 5am and DP wasn't in bed with me!

I'm seriously thinking about trying the BF again...doing some research on re-lactating. I will try and make my mind up in the next few days...depends on how brave I can get really. Will keep you postted.....

x

[joey123]

CB - Thanks for the heads up. I'll ask about that with my check up on Wednesday.

Jenushka - I can't beleive Lila just goes down quietly! I wish Lily would take a dummy. I think it would be great cause often I feed her when she doesn't really need it, just cause she wants to suck and this helps get her off to sleep. I suppose seeing it's breast milk, it doesn't really matter.

I used a saline spray with Lily. She had a stuffy nose from about 1 week to 4 weeks old. You spray it up thir nose and then use this other thing to suck out the mucus. It worked really well.

I'm happy with either day next week for a catch up. What suits you out of those two days Monique??

LB - Sounds like Will is easy to get off to sleep too! Can't beleive he was up partying all night - well that's what Saturday nights are for I guess!!

Good on you for trying BF again. GL with it, but don't put too much pressure on yourself.


AFM - Went to DD's athletics carnival today and Lily slept for most of it. She was a little unsettled yesterday arvo cause we dragged her around different places all day, but we went out to dinner and I put her in a 'close' carrier that I am borrowing from a friend and she slept for the whole 1.5 hours, but then gave us a hard time when it was bed time, but I went to bed and DH managed to get her off to sleep.

Off to athletics again tomorrow, field events. Then a meet up with some BB girls on Wednesday.


Take care all.

[jenushka]

Joey - gl with your check ups today, and hope you enjoy the meet-up. I always feel a million times less of a zombie when I catch up with girlfriends and have a good chat, even if I think I don't feel like it beforehand! And thanks for the advice re stuffy noses

lolly - thanks also for the advice re saline drops - I did end up getting some for Lila and gave them to her last night. They worked really well - definitely cleared her up enough not to keep her awake for hours like the nights before! GL with the bf research, hope it helps with whatever decision you make. And what an awesome sleep you got the other night - how good is your dp!

afu - we had Lila's check-up yesterday which went well. No concerns, she is growing very well and is now 4.3kg. Her hospital discharge weight was 2.96kg so a gain of almost 1.4kg which is awesome All her measurements put her on the 25th percentile so she is in proportion, but it is a bit funny getting used to having a little baby - I know all her measurements are definitely in the normal range but ds was so much bigger, and Lila is still smaller at almost 7 weeks than some bubs are at birth!! Still she was born at 38w, have to take that into account ... and she is happy, healthy and absolutely thriving and thats what matters

I had my check up with the ob yesterday too which went well, the only thing is (sorry if tmi ) I'm STILL bleeding after the birth, and Lila is 7 weeks old tomorrow. It had almost gone about a week ago but then came back fairly heavy-ish and red. Ob not super-dooper concerned, but if it's still going in a few weeks then I need to go have a scan to check nothing has been left behind. But just soooooooooo sick of it!!

Hope everyone is good - been a bit quiet in here...

xx

[ClareBear28]

Well we've had an interesting couple of days to say the least!

We had our 6wk check-up with the community midwife at the hospital on Monday - and to say I was unimpressed would be an understatement! She was very confusing when answering my questions and offering advice, so by the time I left I think I had more questions than when I arrived!

She started by telling me that he's drinking too much (even though the midwives at the hospital told me that a baby will only drink as much as they want/need), but by the end of the consult she told me to feed him the same amount as what he's been having! Then she told me that he may have a neurological problem because his legs jitter sometimes when he straightens/stretches them out. This freaked me out a bit - mainly because she definitely didn't broach the subject in a manner that wouldn't alarm me...

The worst part was the fact that when she measured Lachie, she didn't stretch his legs out - she said she didn't want to hurt him by holding his legs - I am yet to meet a baby that voluntarily stretches out and holds the position for measuring! This meant that when she noted his length it was incorrect, and I couldn't understand why she put an obviously false measurement into his book, making the tracking of his growth hard to measure accurately.

Anyways, when we had our needles yesterday at the Drs (of which he had all of his 8w needles with his whooping cough immunisation), we had him re-measured, and low & behold he was actually 2.5cm longer than what was recorded in his blue book - so I asked the Dr to change the notations. I know I may sound as though I'm being anal, but I can stay home and take incorrect measurements - if I'm going to the effort of going in to the hospital to see a so-called trained professional I expect them to do little things like measuring Lachie properly.. At least Lachie's growing nicely (with the correct measurements!), he's now just over 5kgs (up from 3.1 at birth), and is just over 55cm (up from 47cm at birth) - so based on that I will keep feeding him what he wants, when he wants it - which with some feeds ends up being 150-160mls!

I hope that the rest of you are having nice experiences with your midwives/Drs at your visits, because by the time I left my appt on Monday, all I wanted to do was scream!!!!

[jenushka]

Clare - no good to hear of your extremely confusing check-up. I think your decision to keep doing as you're doing sounds pretty good to me, especially with that weight gain - go Lachie! I think the paed yesterday measured Lila's length (55cm) a bit too swiftly too

Now a question for all - how often does your baby poo? I know, I'm having a shocker today! Up until last Thursday Lila was doing a big poo once a day ...now we've had nothing since then. I know it's common and not a cause for concern in bf bubs, we're getting lots and lots of big wet nappies and she seems happy enough. Just curious what other bubs Lila's age are doing at the moment...

[joey123]

Lily had her check up yesterday...

weight - 5.52kg (birth - 3.902kg)
length - 59.5cm (birth - 56cm)
head circumference - 39cm (birth - 35cm)

So that's great.

Had a great day with the BB girls. It was nice to go and just hang out and Lily just slept in the carrier when she felt like it, so it was nice.

Lily has had a couple of good stints over the last 2 nights, 6.5hrs last night and 7 the night before. And this morning she let me sleep in till 6.30am! That was so nice! We are going skiing in 2 weeks and she will be sleeping in a little fold out bed thingy, so I have put that in her cot so she can get used to sleeping in it, and it seems to be going well. I just hope that she will take the bottles of EBM during the day while we're down her as she only took about 20ml the other day when I expressed and then wanted boob. I guess if bottle is the only option, she'll have to have it. Although I may be missing her too much to ski all day and end up going in to the day care to feed her anyway.



Jenushka - good to hear that bubba's nose is better with the saline drops. glad to hear that her check up went well too. Bugger with the bleeding, what a pain. Hopefully it will go away soon.

As for the pooing: probably 3-5 times in 24 hours.

CB - That sucks about the midwife. Sorry, you've probably said this before, but are you bf him? Cause if you are, it doesn't matter how much they drink. I don't know about the formula though. And how can she not know how to measure him properly! Glad to hear that your GP was much better.


Jenushka & Monique - are you free next week on Wednesday? I'm maybe going out to see my Auntie, Cousin and her baby and that's at Cleveland. What time suits you guys? Is 9am too early? Haven't checked it with them, but I think that'll be the day. Will let you know when they have confirmed.

[Mum030709]

Not much time on my hands atm ladies to catch up on everything you've being chatting about, so hope I'm excused?!

Next Wednesday is fine with me, though I do school run so a 9am meet would mean I'd be a little late.

As for going to sleep; I either cuddle Charlette or I just put her down. If I put her down & she is awake, she likes to be wrapped.

As for the pooping; I am going to talk to the Doctor at our 6wk checkup next week, as I am a little concerned about the lack of it.

[joey123]

Jenushka & Monique - Shall we make it 9.30am on Wednesday then??

[joey123]

Jenushka & Monique - Shall we make it 9.30am on Wednesday then??

[jenushka]

Grrrrr - can't make our meet-up on Wed now My boss has scheduled my yearly performance review for 9am wed morning. I was offered the choice of 9am or 10am - good that he's being so flexible (lol). It really should have been done before I started mat leave but he never got around to it. Will be good to get it out of the way so that I can just be left alone to enjoy my time off with my bub! Need to play nice so I can get my bonus but my boss really has no comprehension - I am lucky that he agreed to let me do it over the phone as he was really pushing hard for me to come into the city to do it in person. With a 7.5 week old. Suuuure....

Joey and Monique - I hope you still meet up. I WILL make it to the next one!

Day 11 and still no poo from Lila, which is a little disconcerting. I rang 13 health this morning and spoke to a child health nurse. She said this is not completely abnormal but getting to the upper limit of time between poos, and as long as Lila is getting plenty of wet nappies (yep), sleeping well (yep), farting (yep), no hard, tight swollen tummy (nope) and seems happy enough (yep) that there are no underlying issues and we should have a poo from her soon, but stand back because it will be massive! She recommended that if there is nothing within 24 hours to take her to the doctors, so have made an appt tomorrow morning just in case...

[*Ang*]

we should have a poo from her soon, but stand back because it will be massive!

Watch out Jenuska! We have had 2 in the past week, each time after going around 4 days without pooing and they have been massive! Last Weds was at a friends house when she did one, Natalya had been wrapped in a blankie wearing a 2 piece outift. When we unwrapped her it was literally up to her nipples and covering her hands everything. We didnt know where to start re cleaning it up!!

Dont get much time to post, Natalya is a bit unpredictable with her day sleeps but is having a good stint at night - last night from 10-6am!

She is also starting to bring up quite a bit her feeds but for some reason it tends to be after feeding on the right breast which I find quite strange? Anyone else had something similar happen?

Enjoy your meet up Joey and Monique.

We have our 6 week check up later this week so hopefully everything will be fine.

[joey123]

Jenushka - No prob, hope it goes well. Shall we make it for the following week?

Turns out I'm not going out to Cleveland to see my auntie and cousin that day any more anyway.

Monique - Are you ok with that? Shall we make it for the following Wednesday at 9.30am?


AFM - Tried feeding Lily EBM via a bottle yesterday and she won't take a bottle any more. Which would be fine, but we're going skiing in 1.5 weeks and she was going into care during the day. Guess I'll just have to pop in and see her every 2-3 hours. What a shame I'll leave some EBM with them just incase she wants a feed early and they can try, but I don't like their chances!

She's still sleeping well at night, usually 7 hours, but the night before last was her record 8 hours!! Mind you, she goes to bed around 7, so it only gets me through to 3am. But still not complaining!!

[jenushka]

Wow - it's quiet in here!

Joey - I've got an appt at Morningside at 10.30 on Wed which makes catching up in Cleveland in the morning a bit difficult. I'm a bit of a pain aren't I?! lol. What about a lunch/ afternoon tea catch up? Tuesday I've got Lila's jabs in the morning so thats out for us too.

Have you had any luck with Lily taking the ebm bottle since you first tried? You must be so excited about your trip away. And 8 hours sleep - wow! Lila's best so far is a 6 hour stretch which was lovely too.

Ang - great to hear from you, hope Natalya's 6 wk check up went well.

afu - well Lila FINALLY did a poo yesterday after 15 days without! In the end I decided to use an infant glycerol suppository recommended by the paed and the GP - I was a bit nervous but Lila was not bothered at all, and after an hour we had a result. We'd tried tummy massage, cycling legs, brown sugar dissolved in water over the last week to no avail! There was a couple of nappies worth but wasn't a big mess because I was standing-by. She still seemed to be happy enough and not in any pain, but was just a little bit grumblier than normal on Thursday night.

We're heading down to the gold coast tomorrow for a seafood lunch at my uncle's place - yum! Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend too

xx

[joey123]

Jenushka - that's ok. this week wasn't going to work easily for me either. so another time perhaps.

glad to hear that your bubba is pooing!!!

all is good with us. lily got her needles on friday and on thursday night she slept 9 hours!! that's her record, but usally it's around 7 hours.

take care all.0