Babies born~May 16th-31st 2009 #5

Fantastic to hear her temps have gone down...scary hey :shakehead:
My SIL found that when her kids had a temp Panadol didn't really work and she tried Nurofen baby (kids) or whatever it's called?!?!? and that worked allot better with them.

yay - so happy CJ's temp is down!

only a brief one this morning - i feel awful. E wasn't interested in sleep from 8.30 til midnight last night - and then i got nothing more than a sleep cycle at a time ALL NIGHT. wouldn't resettle without feeding ALL NIGHT. i managed to get about half an hour of sleep this morning while DH had her in the lounge - he came to wake me when i'd asked him to - and she wanted to feed again! she's feeding every 40 minutes!!!! i'm exhausted - physically i don't feel like i can keep up - but i have no choice - gotta keep going. sigh.

might have to kick DH into the other room tonight - looks like he might have a few hours work tomorrow and i'd rather him not be driving farm equipment on no sleep...

Vic: Glad CJ is better this morning. Sorry she wasn't well :( I have found that panadol mostly gets spat out here too, LOL! Could've just been a little bug she's fighting off. Best thing to do is keep up the boob feeds, I reckon.
BG: Eek, that does sound tiring. Hope it is growth spurt and is over soon. Are you able to get some rest today? Is E's mouth better?
Naomi: That is just awesome re Bailey's sleep! I'm so pleased that he's become so settled and that you're feeling on top of things. I am looking forward to the day when I feel that too ;)

Phoebe is so on-again off-again with the boob. I think we are going to wean. I keep changing my mind and so does she, LOL! Don't know what's wrong today, but she wouldn't even have the boob at naptime. Gave her a bottle of EBM and she didn't want that either. Happily drank the formula and went to bed without too much of a carry-on. I wonder if I am getting AF or something, or if the hot weather makes my boobs taste funny, but she was very clear about what she wanted last night and this morning.
We had a better night last night, even though it was SO HOT all night. We don't have AC so our house was stinking, even with the windows open (it was cooler outside once it got dark). She and I both had had a crying jag in the afternoon so I suppose that tired her out. She only woke twice for bottles and once to have a little drink of water and a resettle. I'm feeling quite tired, not just physically but emotionally too. There's a lot going on. Phoebe's breast refusal (which if it were once and for all would be fine but I never know if she's going to take it or not), and as a follow-on from that, if she's not feeding to sleep then we are having to work on how to settle her now. The whole work thing and money (which is really stressing me out. I hope we get the CCR soon because my credit card is pretty much maxxed out... another reason why switching to formula isn't so appealing right at this point!), and DH being out so much and therefore my feeling unappreciated and alone. I am kind of looking forward to working or doing a short course, but I know that DH is going to get a RUDE shock having to look after both the girls at once. I am glad for their sake it will only be one day a week.

Yaaah for CJ feeling better, we use Baby Dymadon here, its thicker and tastes like orange so the little guy seems to like it, rare that it gets spat out !

Amy - dont you wish P would just make up her mind LOL!! What kind of short course are you thinking? Have you guys had the cool change yet? We had a much cooler day yesterday which should be headed to the Eastern States (we even had a heap of rain!!)

BG - arrrgggh re the sleep cycle wake ups - good to hear DH has a bit of work lined up!

Bailey had another spew/poo this morning. I went to the CYH nurse this morning to get Bailey weighed properly (have only been using my bathroom scales since the brace) and asked about the poo/chucking thing. The nurse said it sounds like a bit of constipation and suggested laying off the weetbix a little (as is wheat based) as Bailey has it for breakfast most mornings and go for oats (porridge) as some babies take a while to build a tolerance to wheat based products and they can be the cause of harder poo, also to add a bit more water to his food or encourage him to drink. She though his immobility v the amount of solids he eats means he may not necessarily poo as easily as he might if he was more active and as he is pushing more with his upper body perhaps which means he is pushing spew out instead of poo sometimes. Anyway, will make the changes she suggested and see what happens, she said if no change to go to the GP. It sounds logical, but I'm not 100% convinced, will give it a few days with the changes before going to the GP. She did say she hadn't heard of it happening before much, so that worries me a little

Stats
Weight - 7.970 kgs (almost cracked the 8kg mark)
HC - 47cms

i had a nap for about an hour - at least i don't feel so i'll i'm going to be sick now - have even managed to stomach some lunch. E is still asleep. not sure if it's her mouth, her teeth, whether my milk is a bit weird due to hormones or the hot weather, whether the change in weather is impacting her (it's cool enough to have her in a long sleeve onesie now - yesterday all clothes were out of the question! ridiculous!). she had two mammoth poops last night as well (only four days since the last ones - better than the 8 or 9 days we've been averaging!) - so many things it oculd have been! poor poppet

naomi - see if you can add some watered down prune or pear juice for him - should help to soften things up a bit

amy - meant to say - i'm really sorry you're still having breast refusal issues - i can't imagine how hard it is to have a baby that is so definite she wants formula one minute, yet wants you at other times. perhaps the hormone thing IS at play now. i also wondered if maybe the bottle is easier for her and she just wants that rather than having to work for BM... hugs hun

Thanks BG - prune juice definately works here - tried and tested :), I am hoping I can eliminate the constipation even occuring in the first place though too, so fingers crossed a few changes will help. Perhaps I just need to be a bit more careful with his diet until he become more active and mobile and therefore 'regular' hehehe

Just wanted to pop in a suggest Vaalia yoghurt for any bubs with constipation. AFter 6 months of HELL, numerous types of formulas and medications, this was the ONLY thing that worked for DS. He had very severe constipation for so long, that he tried not to poo at all which made things worse. 24 hours after his first vaalia experience, he was perfect and has been ever since.

Hi everyone! Just popping in quickly... trying to catch up frm housework I missed yesterday. No fires thankfully but one huge storm that has take a tonne of trees and branches down around here. Will be a pretty decent cleanup.

All going well, Allira cruising furniture easily and now letting go to try and stand on her own.

Naomi: Hmm. Interesting that the nurse hasn't heard of that happening. Your plan of attack sounds good to me - I think I'd do the same, see how things go for a week or so then go to drs.
Interesting about the weet bix - I have been giving P some of that for the last week or so along with some mashed up peach. Might give the porridge a go and alternate or something...
Am thinking of doing a medical admin statement of attainment. There seem to be a few job share positions come up in Medical administration, so I would like to add that course to my resume. It is only 5 Saturdays and isn't going to blow the budget (around $400 - we have a little bit saved up so we can shell out a little for something like this).
Yes, the cooler weather has arrived. Last night was sooooo much nicer than the night before. Yesterday we were all hanging out the front at my folks' place laughing like idiots because the breeze was so lovely.
BG: Sorry E is still out of sorts. It's hard when you don't know what's going on with them, hey. Thanks, we are getting by with the refusal - I am not finding it offensive anymore at least, LOL! I think you are right, at night when she is tired the bottle is a lot faster and easier for her. I am just not sure how much formula she should be having, KWIM? With boob it is easy, I can just offer it to her as much as she wants but am not sure if I can do the same with bottle? In any case, I think I am going to be a bit of a hard mum now- am going to just offer water between 12 and 5 and see how that goes... I really don't want her sleep to deteriorate to the point Natty's did.
Nicky: Wow, Allira's really on the move!

Do any of the FF babies in here still have overnight feeds? If so, how many, how much and when? Phoebe is waking usually 3 times a night now, 2 if I am lucky. I don't mind giving her two bottles overnight - she'd only drink 100mls max. But I'm unsure about a third... I wonder if it might fill her up too much so she's less keen to eat during the day, plus I don't want to get into a pattern where she does all her drinking overnight instead of during the day. *Yawn*!
Was glad Phoebe was happy to have the breast during the afternoon and the morning today as went out and forgot to take bottles, LOL! We are in such a weird place feeding-wise.

Hi all.

Sending big sleep, boob, poop vibes out.

Amy- Logan doesn't wake up overnight for a feed anymore. He sleeps from about 10pmish til about 6.30amish. He has 3 solid meals a day, and about 4 bottles.

Naomi- I have never heard of the poop with spew thing before. Hopefully you get some answers.

KL- Yep, I'm still here. Family is good.

Vic- We use baby neurofen here. Logan seems to spew up Panadol.

BG- Poor E re headbutting Daddy.

Nicky- Lucky you having Allira on the go. What's Lachie like when she gets into his stuff? Logans headed for Jake and Zacs room a few times, and when I tell them, they quickly go and pick everything up.

Amy - not sure if this FF info is of any use to you but at this age the recommended in take of milk for FF babies is 600-800mls, Bailey doesn't even drink that, I think its a breastfeeding legacy TBH. I make up 4 x 150ml bottles a day now, and its rare that he drinks the whole thing, usually leaves about 30-60mls in the bottle so he is probably getting about 400 - MAYBE 500mls per day if he is lucky. But I do give him a 100ml baby yoghurt at lunch to up the dairy and calcium intake as the CYH nurse said I could count that as part of his milk intake. When he was regularly drinking at night, he was usually having a bedtime bottle about 6pm, then another bottle about 2-3pm and would drink about 120mls. The next bottle would then be 630-7am pre breakfast. According to the formula tin I should be giving him 4 x 210mls each day, but I only make up 150ml as its a waste of formula and its so bloody expensive. Like you I would be inclined to minimise the night bottles where ya can so she gets used to eating a good breakfast and get more sleep if she'll let ya :)

HTHs

ETA - when Bailey first went onto formula I was giving him 5 bottles - 1 overnight and 4 day, but he never used to drink much of the afternoon one so I dropped it and pushed his lunch back later, but since I have reintroduced it, he has given up the night one, but as we all know every baby is different and I think Bailey was just 'ready' to give up the night one too - lucky for me!

Allira still has one full bottle overnight (between 7.30pm and 7.30am).
I'll give it another month and then she gets water and that's all.
lol

e is feeding overnight several times

i'm not complaining, cos i have several drinks overnight too!

Thanks girls. Naomi, that 600-800ml per day thing is good to know! I think we are ok then. When I am not with her she doesn't really drink much formula: she'd probably only have 300ml total. So that means 3 100ml feeds overnight would still be fine (not that I'm happy to be waking 3 times a night, LOL! But if I HAVE to, it will be ok).
I am trying to get Phoebe onto 3 good meals per day and get a bit more structure to her day, but today it was just impossible. We were on the go all day. I had to get a new windscreen on the car this morning (biiiiiiig stone chip and it had started to crack), so we hung out at the big shops down the road for 2 hours while they did it. Phoebe slept in the stroller but only for 40 minutes. Then we went home for lunch but had to go out again for our fortnightly shopping, so she slept in the carrier, again for only 40 minutes. Then she was sooooo cranky at dinner time she hardly ate anything, then fell asleep on the boob at 6:30. She's awake now, I have fed her some yoghurt and will give her another milk feed (if she'll take the boob, great) before bed. Then only water between 12 and 5. (Though if she's really upset I just don't know if I'll be able to get away with it. I'm not going to let her cry, so if she has another bottle, so be it.)

Snacks - I too find sometimes is very difficult to get structure into the day if lots to do - was easier when they were really little, I was out so much more then! Now I feel mean if am out too much and CJ doesn't get enough floor time, I still am a bit mean sometimes and wake her up if need to go do something but not before 1 sleep cycle - she doesn't seem to mind though in fact her face lights up when we go out the front door.

I have just posted a thread about lack of wee - any comments appreciated.

https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...month-old.html

Cool about the crawling babies - I reckon another 8 weeks before CJ crawls (based on the stages have seen others go through before crawling) so that will be right after IL's leave I reckon - they are her for five weeks (luckily going to Tas, and along Great Ocean Road so not with us constantly - it would drive DH mad!)

Right have to go - my phobia about DH going to bed before me kicking in again - I don't know what happens to the evenings they go so fast, and I have been doing crafty things (creating more clothes for CJ out of old ones, is my latest craze) again and not got on here till late.

Vic - glad the 'wee' situation has resolved itself :)

Amy - is P still around the same size as Bailz? If so 3 boob feeds and 3 100ml bottles definately sounds plenty, sounds like she is definately getting what she needs. Hows she going with the no milk between 12-5?

Seems weetbix and Bailey dont mix, since he hasn't had it for 3 days now and his poo's are much better, softer, even runny again - Yaaaaaaah!! He hasn't spew/poo'd since and his pooing is so much more easier for him that he has even managed to squeeze two out without me knowing until it wafted up my nose LOL

The weirdest thing happened last night - apparantly Bailey stirred and was yabbering away and I told DH to leave him as he was fine (normally I would at least sneak into his doorway to have a look), then he obviously got upset and started crying and I got out of bed and almost walked into the wall. I dont remember it, I do remember getting back into bed, I think I was sleep walking/talking. Anyway, thats the first time that Bailey stirring hasn't actually woken me properly!! Gawd!! I think I was EXTRA tired, I was slightly worried this morning that I 'slept' through it, but I'm sure if Bailey was actually crying I'd definately wake :o

Hi Girls,

Well it has been simply ages since I posted on here!!! I have been so busy and it has been stressful and I just couldn't find time or a computer for much of the time.

Nicole- Sorry to hear about your lil un's hydro cephalus issues. That has got to scare you. Jemima has a head over the 97th % and it has concerned us but without the other symptoms. The CHN wasn't worried. Glad to hear they arn't really worried. That is a good sign.

BG, Naomi, Jacinta and Krystie I love all your new Avi's!!!! Makes me want to go and sort out another one for myself!!

BG- sorry to hear bout E's head butt!!! It is aweful when they hurt themselves!!!

Snacks- Aww honey my heart breaks for you with the weaning issues honey! It feels like you are really conflicted about it all. Can I ask why you gave the first formula bottle hon? Is it just that you are getting her ready for when u go back to work or are you worried about your supply? When I was reading one of your posts it reminded me of something my sis said to me. I was giving J a bottle of EBM cos I had to defrost it b4 we moved. She saw me feeding J and advised me not to be the one to give J bottles. She said that if possible DH should give the bottle cos essentially she should assoc me with boobs. Does that make sense? So she knows when she sees me all she will get is a boob and so she won't fuss me. I say that tho without knowing what you motive has been so I don't know whether to offer help or just support you in what seems to be a really hard time, so I will do both :hug:

Vic- I love it how Paed nurses say not to give panadol like that. Emergency nurses and Paed nurses often disagree on this. I always think about how **** I feel with a really high temp and I would rather have a baby sick for 5 days instead of 4 who isn't in constant pain , than get rid of the bug one day early(just as an example) Also I didn't know that panadol had to be kept at below 25. We have been giving J hers and it has almost been constantly above 30 and has been fine so I won't throw our supply out. I agree that there is prob a fairly high safety window of temps.

Naomi- when you push out a poo you increase your intra abdominal pressure to force a poo out. particularly like in Bailey's case if he has constipation. If you mimic that pressure yourself then you can feel the pressure build in your throat. I wouldn't let it worry you at all. Jemima is standing up to do almost all her poo's now. verry funny she does a little grunt and sigh as she pushes it out then looks very proud of herself!

Nicky- hope your storm clean up isn't too bad!

AFM- well so much has happened I don't know where to begin!

J is crawling so fast I can barely keep track of her! Plus I am distracted by trying to unpack. Couldn't believe the movers! First half of the boxes are completely full of crushed paper and it seemed like a complete waste of space and then they damaged so much of our furniture!! uurrgghh! So now I have to deal with an insurance co. Suffice to say I have begun to document my conversations with them now.... Never know what will happen.

J has finally started on solids. 6 1/2 months exclusive. Then the next 2 weeks she really only has had 3 slices of apple. I just couldn't wait till we got settled in but now I am starting in earnest. She is having carrot and apple. I gave her bannana and cucumber earlier in the week which she liked but I think they both upset her tummy? She kept writhing in bed. We have had to co-sleep for 2 weeks whilst at other ppls houses and so it has been more difficult to get a solid sleep with a wiggly worm in bed. Has anyone else had trouble with some foods? I am glad we r doing BLS as she won't take food from me. She wants to tuch it and examine everything that she eats LOL! Never mind. She has barely ingested anything but she is having fun trying.

She turned 7 months today!! Yay for her it is going to quick! Can't believe we r well on our way into the 2nd half of the yr.

Anyhow must go cos DH getting ****ed I am not spending time with him

Love u all

Bella

FINALLY been able to get on BB, was out most of today and Master Aaron is in bed catching his Zzzzzzz.....oh how I love this time of night when both my men are in bed :dance:

Bella, nice to hear from you was only thinking the other day that that you had been MIA.
Happy 7 months to Miss J....the time is really flying!!
Yes Aaron's Hydro scares the total crap out of me, but all in all he is such a happy little man I couldn't ask for a better baby.

Vic, how's CJ today...I hope lots of wet nappies for mummy :lol:
Am the same as you our day out only ever starts once A has had one sleep as well...they just get so tired and putting them in and out of the car must be really annoying for them. I think one day Aaron was in and out of the car at least 10 times :doh:

Naomi, I had to laugh when you were talking about Bailey's Poop...we as mums get sooooo happy when finally they poo DH doesn’t understand why I get so happy...but when the little man only goes 2-3 times a week it is time for a happy dance. Mind you without the poop every day I am saving a heap in wipes...hehehehehhe

Have a great weekend all!!