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    Krystie - if they're putting you on the pill you'll be doing a down regulation cycle - sounds like Nay did an antagonist cycle (the second needle each day stops you from ovulating until they want you to) - with a down reg cycle, they put you on the pill to get your hormones flat lined. give you are going through PGD, you may go on it for longer than the normal time frame, as they manipulate AF to fit you in with the clinic. from what i know of melb PGD they can only do two patients through PGD at a time - this may have changed, but it's still a very small number - so they need you to be on a certain time frame so they may keep you on the pill for four or five weeks before taking you off for AF to arrive - could be sooner. generally before they take you off the pill, they will start you on either a nasal spray (synarel) twice daily, or a daily injection (lucrin) - these will complete the down reg and stop all natural hormone production. it basically puts you into drug induced menopause! (so warn DH - you can get a little ummmmm moody with these ones!) - these will continue once you start on the stimulating drugs. given you have no fertility issues as such, you will probably be on a low level of hormones so as to avoid overstimulation. you'll be closely monitored like Nay said - be prepared, BT's and dildocam become a regular part of life! lol.

    when you get to the right sized follicles, you'll stop the down reg drugs and have a trigger shot to make you ovulate. about 36-48 hours later you'll go for egg pick up - for me, this was done under twilight sedation so i was unconscious. given this is your first cycle (and hopefully your only one!) they will take it very gently with the stim drugs so as not to cause you any dramas

    once your eggs are fertilised, they'll take you to day 2 or three before the PGD happens - there will only be two or three cells in each embie at this point so they're tiny! they will take one cell and amplify the genetic material in that one cell to check for the genetic anomaly you mentioned. you probably know this but i figure the other ladies may not! lol

    if the anomaly shows up, that embryo won't be transferred. you may end up with large number of eggs/embies but many discarded. they will also only transfer the ones without the anomaly that are considered to be of the right quality.

    not sure about what you've been told, but generally they ask that you have a CVS or amnio to again check the genetics. given it is all based on a single cell when testing, it's not 100% guaranteed to be accurate.

    hope that helps on that front!!


    on the rest of your post - i soooooooooo feel for you on the unsettled baby. two nights ago E had a meltdown - screaming so bad and so distressed. took ages to settle her. last night, she was fine until we went to bed - and then she lost the plot again. she was so distressed. nothing was helping. we gave her panadol (no nurofen at night for our poppet - it makes her hyper and ruins her sleep!), numbed her gums, offered boob and cuddles. ended up laying beside her in bed, snuggled up, singing round and round the garden (it worked the night before cos i'd taught it to her during the day! lol) - eventually worked. she cried again briefly when daddy moved her to bed, but it wasn't the distressed cry, it was more a cry of grrrr daddy, i was comfy!. she woke a couple of times through the night, but booby was enough to resettle her

    i fessed up to DH about my face being sore. i don't know if it's tooth related - just keeping an eye on it. last time, if i pressed on my gums, i was in agony - this time i can't feel anything in there - more just under my nose it's kinda like a lump. could be a blind pimple or something - will see how i go. am not going to ride it out if it gets bad though - i'll work out a way to get to the dentist if it gets more ouchy! i promise!! Bella is too scary to ignore lol

    today, while e is content playing, i'm going to make a photo book for DH and I - won't be able to get it printed for a while, and probably won't get it all journalled and stuff, but i want to play with our wedding pics - we've been married four years today! yay us!

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    sounds like Nay did an antagonist cycle
    Yep - that's it - I forgot what it was called. LMAO @ dildo cam!! Oh yeah, the BTs, I was a pin cushion by the end of it all ...... all worth it though. We were on a low level of hormones too, but we only had 4 follicles (one of my ovaries decided not to come to the party that month), one was empty (no egg), one was not suitable to fertilise, and of the 2 that were fertilised, only one successfully became an embryo so we had our emby trf on Day 2 - and this one lonly little embryo turned into Bailey , so don't fret if you only have a small number of follicles, eggs or embryo's - it's all about quality, not quantity, and you don't want to end up overstimulated and sick, also they need to see how your body reacts to all these hormones...... (ETA - obviously the PGD then puts a totally different spin on things but I guess you guys are definately after some premium quality emby's - so fingers crossed xx)

    Happy 4 years BG and C - Congrats guys, that's awesome!!

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    We have another tooth - number 5 - that one snuck up on me (second one on top left) - is through the gum just noticed it! What does everyone do about teeth cleaning?

    CJ was up at 2:15 and took me a couple of hours to get her back to sleep - kept pulling at her ear, I was puzzled because I thought tooth 4 was through so shouldn't have been teething but now see was probably tooth 5. Am shattered though today (although compared to some of you guys is extremely minor sleep deprivation), IL's back this arvo so we are back sharing a room with CJ tonight for a week or so.

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    we just bought miss e a toothbrush and tonight we start cleaning her teeth. i'm guessing if we do it gently first, then let her have a bit of a go at it to get her used to it. she is little miss independent so will want to do it herself!

    well, it's official - i start work again April 20. yay me! work need me to go in and sign a part time contract. will be doing general enquiries (boring!) but i'll be ok with it. can't expect to go back to what i was doing given it is rather specialised and i'm only going back two days a week for now

    and can i say - i love my Mum! she wants her carpets shampoo'd so i told her i'd do it - she has paid in advance so i could get something i wanted for E for her birthday. she is getting the most gorgeous little pettiskirt! her big cousins are getting one each from mum's sister for Easter/birthday (e's present from the sis is already sorted) - they had a huuuuuuge reduction in cost for them so i had to get it! doin a happy dance! now i just need to go and shampoo her carpets lol

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    ooh, i meant to say - Vic - i hope E's teeth come through quickly and close together like that - the poor poppet is NOT happy with this teething gig!

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    Hey Girls

    I had a crappy sleep last night...Cara was miserable. Gave her panadol about midnight, she woke up about 7 times!! (no joke!) Sometimes my back is sore from swapping sides of the bed to feed her! She has two top middle teeth just bulging under the gums ready to break through. She usually sleeps well from 9pm-7.30am, just wakes up, breastfeed. straight back to sleep. But not last night. Nasty teeth..I am sure we will all be happy when they have a break from teething for a lil while. Cara has had 4 teeth now (almost) within a month almost! Can't blame the girl for being fed up. She got the other 2 bottom teeth around 6mths.

    I set up the wiggles playpen today. I've never had a fancy playpen before..usually just a wooden one..but I gave it away ages ago. It's a nice colourful one with things on the side panel for them to play with (mirror, phone, dial etc). She isn't crawling yet, but she can get herself around on her tummy VERY well. She can cover a lot of ground. This morning it almost looked like she was crawling!! Not far away. She's up on all 4s a lot and trying to pull up. She's so heavy though, she doesn't stand for long hehe. I just thought I'd get the playpen out for the times I can't watch her....doing certain housework etc. She pulled the playstation down the other day. I am sure in time she'll see it as a prison. But I don't want to stick her in there too often.

    Cara seems much worse with these teeth than the other 4. She has been biting me on the boob HEAPS in the last 24 hours. I yell "OWWWWWWWWWWWW" (can't help it, it hurts), and she comes off and looks at me. She knows it is wrong. Occasionally she will cry if she knows she's hurt me. And then goes back on the boob and is fine.

    All you teething Mums! Hang in there!! It will get better! hehe

    To all you Mums that are going back to work/have gone back to work...all the best!! I've never done it before (work and be a Mum). Give yourselves a pat on the back and make hubby spoil you sometimes (and I hope he does his share of the chores too). Doing two very important jobs is HARD WORK! You ladies are the true wonder women! SuperMums!

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    Cathy - thanks for the vote of confidence re being a working Mum, but I reckon having 4 kids gives your supermum status too babe

    Nic - I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat, it is definately soooooo worth it

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    Vic - We bought a little baby toothbrush from Woolies a few weeks ago, although a facewasher will do for now (only 2 teeth still), I introduced it more to start the whole bath/brushing teeth routine. I gently brush his two teeth then give him the brush to do the same, Bailey thinks its pretty fun - here are some toothbrushing pics!

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    LOL BG, Dildocam...had to laugh.
    I called it the darf vader wand....hehehe
    Kyrstie we did the antagonist cycle like Nay oh the good old days of being a human pin cushion....BUT SOOOO WORTH IT!!

    Seems like all us mums are being woken up around the clock...Aaron is the same waking up every 2.5 to 4 hours Not too sure if it's a growth spurt or teeth...He has his top two and bottom two and has for a while so have no idea.
    Also very Velcro baby.... Me and my shadow are like two peas in a pod!!

    Here is hoping for a good night sleep for all of us

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    Bella: Funny the dreams you have! I had a couple of contraception dreams a while ago - they really freaked me out until I woke up properly, LOL! Sorry you had to pay for your good sleep. I will email you in a couple of weeks with my order. This pay is all going to childcare, then next fortnight I am buying myself a prezzie
    Cathy: My period is still MIA too. I agree, I think mine will come back when I stop feeding overnight. It was the same with Natty - she started sleeping through at around 8/9 months and that's about when AF returned for me. I am happy for it to stay away. Plus, now that I have been back at work, I am very keen to keep up these lovely early-morning feeds. This morning I just stared at my baby for ages once she'd gone back to sleep after her feed. She makes these glorious noises when she's getting full - like, 'Oooooooh, my tummy's full... but... can maybe fit a bit more...' LOL! She's so beautiful and I just adore those snuggles. But we have been pretty lucky in this house of late with sleeping as she is waking only once or twice a night atm.
    I think I need a playpen too. I have put gates up at the stairs because Phoebe's technique is pretty similar to Cara's and she is getting faster. She is slowly transitioning to hands and knees.
    Krystie: We have leather seats in one of the cars too and IKWYM about the movement. Now our seats have big marks and dents on them too from the seats, so they don't move as much... but that's not such a good thing for the car! (Don't tell your DH ) I think you will put 2 and 2 together when it comes time for Kyson to change seats. From what I figure, as long as you follow manufacturers instructions for your chosen seat then you are obeying the law. Keep Kyson in a booster until he's too big for it or until he's 6/7 years old. Voila!
    I am very interested in hearing about the IVF, so I hope we don't get in trouble from our mods. It's not something I'd venture into the AC threads to read up on... I can barely keep up with the threads that are relevant to my life and experiences! I hope you don't have too long to wait and that your first round is a great success
    Oh, and on the teething - yes it gets better and you quickly forget how hard the teething was to get through. I remember when Natty was about 20-ish months and we were at the shops and she chucked this MASSIVE tantrum. I was so confused as to why she was so fussy for no reason and guessed it was just a toddler-ism. But then I looked inside her (open - screaming) mouth and saw two molars coming through! I had forgotten she still didn't have all her teeth. I had thought all that was behind us. How quickly we forget, LOL.
    Nic: Sorry to hear Aaron's been unsettled. Phoebe hasn't been waking more than usual, but she has been very sad at times through the day. I figured it was because of my return to work and that she's adjusting to it (and maybe feeling a little bit abandoned ) but maybe it is a developmental thing too. I love the reassurance of knowing the other bubs in here (who still have their mummies with them) are going through something similar.
    Nay: The work clothes are a bit of an issue for me too - I have about three tops and two pairs of pants that are still comfortable, LOL! I told a friend of mine that I need to go shopping and she said, "You're only working three days - three tops is enough!" LOL! I have my 'Tuesday top' my 'Thursday top' and my 'Friday top' PMSL.
    Enjoy your pre-work Bailey-days coming up. I am making the very most of my time with the girls atm, and I have found that since going back to work I am much more patient with Natty and we enjoy each other more.
    LOL @ the junk mail thing... are you a 'junk'ie as well?!? I love junk mail and we get heaps of it here. I cut out pictures of things from the catalogues for Natty to do collages. So they really come in handy (esp the Toys R Us ones)
    BG: Nay is right, you are awesome with the way you help folks out on here. You have a knack for explaining things and I think you would be the bees knees at your job. I'm not surprised they are itching to have you back.
    Happy anniversary I'm glad you fessed up to your sore face. Hope it's just a pimple. xx
    Vic: Sorry for the early-morning-escapades you've been experiencing. Phoebe still only has two teeth but we've been brushing them since they came through. Just a soft brush with no paste. Like Nay said, a washer will do, but I personally find a toothbrush much easier to get to the right place in their mouth. (Phoebe loves sucking washers and thinks its a big game when I try to wipe her face and hands, so you can imagine the fun she has when I try to stick it in her mouth ) She is very good with the brush - just opens her mouth and lets me brush. I also brush her gums and tongue when I feel like it, just for her to get used to keeping her mouth open for me.

    As I mentioned to Nicole, I am kind of glad to hear that Phoebe isn't the only one who's been a bit unsettled lately. I thought it was because she was mixed up with not having me around, and I dare say that's part of it, but I'm hoping that at least some of her sadness is just a developmental phase. She hasn't been sleeping well in the day when I'm not there, so that doesn't help either.
    Today is her first day at CC and I am feeling very sad about it. Silly, and I should just get over it. I am really enjoying my job and like I said, I am finding it easier to stay patient with the big one and even enjoy waking up to the little one so it's really doing wonders for my temperament. I just know it's a big step and the idea's taking some getting used to.
    My bestie is due to have her baby in a couple of weeks. I can't believe how quickly that has gone (not that I said as much to her, LOL!) but I remember when she told me she was 8 weeks preggers. Phoebe was 8 weeks old! It feels like ages ago, but only yesterday. Babies make time go all funny.

    ETA: OMG!! I've been RAKed too!!! Ooooooooh, how LOVELY!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! xxx

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    Amy - Congrats and well deserved, I always thought you had a good RAK - your avi certainly seems to suggest it LOL

    Cathy - I can neither confirm or deny your suspicions regarding who RAK'd you - Like they say - If I tell you, I have to kill you I don't want blood on my hands LOL!!! But you are a deserving RAK'eee, and it's wonderful that all our Belly/Baby Buddies are now platinum! I did work out who RAK'd me though, I wonder if I am allowed to say? Hhhhhmmmmmmmm

    I've been pouring out my emotions about returning to work - the logistical stuff I have sorted, but gosh I am getting rather emotional about it - so I thought I'd write it all down and turn it into a positive about how wonderful my Maternity Leave has been.....
    https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ml#post2190493

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    Babies make time go all funny.
    Amy - So soooo true, I should so quote you in my title next to my Avi (heck I will! PMSL), I was just thinking that of my maternity leave, I can't beleive its almost over - Wowsers!! I was going to say "Don't feel sad about Phoebe's CC" but then realised its a bit stoooopid to tell you how to feel I hope it gets easier and you make peace with it babe I'm so happy for you that you are finding more patience with Natty and enjoying your time with your girls, you sound happy and settled in your new job. I totally know what you mean re patience with your child though.... A few times this week when I have been getting frustrated and growly at Bailey for buggering around instead of napping I have reminded myself that time is precious and patience is a virtue LOL! And yes, I love sitting down with a pile of junk mail, a coffee and dream about what I''ll buy.... I must admit a few times when we have been having a "Tight arse" week I have thrown the junk mail in the bin before reading to avoid temptation (unless of course there is a baby sale ) Oh - and MAMMOTH post GF!

    Bridg - LOL at trying to keep up, I know what you mean though, and it's hilaious that we are already up to Thread #6! God knows how I will keep up once back at work, I think my persie's will seriously decline, but at least I can lurk at tea break and lunch at work..... Hope you are well babe, looking forward to you dropping by

    BG - BAH to a 18 day cycle, tell AF to bugger off! Glad the face is on the mend, sorry for making you tear up with my other post in the Platinum thread. I had tears running down my face writing it, it did me good though....

    Nicky - thanks for your sweet words too beautiful, so sorry that you are sick, it's darn hard work looking after the rest of the family when you are sick yourself. Hoping you get some rest and wake in the morning feeling better. Re the co-sleeping, we are doing it more and more as Bailey gets older. He has such unbroken sleep in our bed (as do we), and frankly we love having him with us. He sleeps in his cot from bedtime until we go to bed, then we have gotten him into the habit of popping him in with us, having a King bed certainly helps. I think its also a bit to do with me getting a bit clingy to him regarding returning to work soon, I'm happy for him so sleep with me, it just seems like the right thing to do currently. I swore I'd never co-sleep before I become a Mum and thought that the marital bed was sacred - HAHAHAHA like we ever have the energy to 'use' the marital bed like we did pre-Bailey ... PMSL

    Bella - Oh Sweetie, I can only imagine how heartbroken you must be feeling, I wish I could give you a big hug. Hopefully somehow the exam happens and J becomes a big sister next year, take care babe

    Krystie - Like Amy, nice work with the mammoth post! I agree with BG, great and well thought out Qs for the FS, hopefully one way or another you can keep your BF going. Speaking of embryo's, here is a pic of Bailey as a 2 day emby, just 4 cells!! Isn't it totally amazing to think this become the little boy who stole my heart?
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1072404330
    Sending you some sleep vibes.....Oh, and I just ordered a pram-skin for Bailey's pram as we use both the pram and stroller as temporary high chairs and this way I can just chuck it in the wash (his pram needs a bloody good clean), anyway the designs reminded me of your nappy cover materials and designs, perhaps this might be a good idea to expand your business?

    Cathy - again re your Avi, I can't remember who's doing Avi's now, but they did an awesome job to fit everyone in and after seeing all your pics, it is spot on - Hope you love it!

    Nicole - I hope after all the stress of the last few weeks, that this one has been easier for you - LOVE the new photo's of Aaron

    Vic - I was wondering - Does CJ still sleep on her back now that she is brace free? Does she tend to sleep in the same position as when she had her brace? Bailey rarely moves in his sleep, I know the mostly the brace prevents him, but other than turning his head from side to side he is pretty much in the same position as when I put him to bed....at least I know he is not going to jump out the cot

    I might go work on Bailey's current photobook, I must bring them to our meet up to show you all

    Have a good night
    Nancy ...... Ooops, Nay x

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    BG - meant to mention before and forgot - 2 days is a nice way to settle in - hilariously April 20th was my first day of maternity leave last year LOL. Hope it all goes well, will pass on any 'return to work' hints I come across...