Babies born~May 16th-31st 2009 #6

Krystie, that is GREAT news on being able to start the short cycle (antagonist) as soon as AF arrives.
From memory I was on 125 Puregon for 6 days and then Orgalutran (which is the antagonist injection) for 6 days EPU on day 13 ET on day 18!! So it's fast!!!
You'll blink and your egg pick up will be here!!
Sending you some AF vibes ...bring it on :dance:

Amy, hope both your girls get better soon :hug:

BG, Can't wait to see the photos of E...sounds like the little Miss had great fun!!

AFU, well Aaron hit 9 months a couple of days ago and CANT believe that he will be 1 in 3 months...where has the time gone.
He had been waking up every 3 hours during the night up until the couple of nights....but maybe I have just spoken too soon.
He sat on his own today for about 30 seconds so I am very proud of my little man.
We are also seeing the neuro this Friday and just want to get it over and done with so I can stop holding my breath :pray:
Not much else other than living in dust and mess ATM...building this garage is getting old....although it's only been 1.5 weeks. The Cement is being poured tomorrow and I could not be happier...ohh how I hate dust!!

Anyway may try and clean the fish tank before Mr wakes up.

Nic: I will be working on Friday so if you feel like popping your head in the door to say hi, go ahead!! (Suite 17.) But I'll understand if you have too much on your mind and would rather keep to yourself too. I hope the week goes quickly and that Friday's appointment brings good news.
Krystie: Hooray! How wonderful that things are getting moving already for you!
BG: The photo shoot sounds perfect :) Will make sure I log onto FB some time soon to catch up on all these pics.
Nicky: There's 2.5 years between my two. It sucks. But I think so much of it has to do with personality. A couple of friends have a 3 year gap and they are complaining about the same things. 2 and 3 are tricky ages as it is, I reckon. Add a sibling to the mix and it just makes it that little bit more challenging.
Cathy: I hate these hot nights. Makes the kids more unsettled and you just feel like you're half awake all night long. We had one of those the night before last and I rocked up at work with my eyes falling out of my head!
Nay: PMSL, you crack me up. Fancy quoting me under your username. You whackjob. And yes, I wore my Tuesday top ;) Phoebe has had peanut butter but only when she's eaten the crusts of Natty's sandwiches. I think if a kid has a very high sensitivity to nuts they will react even if you breathe on them or touch them if you've just eaten peanut butter. So because this household would completely break down if there wasn't peanut butter in it (DH and DD are beyond mad-keen) Phoebe has had it by default. I was more wary with Natty because she was a bit more of an allergy-prone baby, had eczema etc. But Phoebe seems to have escaped all that.
Love that pic of Bailey in your ticker!

OMG, Phoebe has woken already! Will try to get back in later.

Hey Amy, what time you working?
Our appointment is 7.15am!!!!!!!

photos up in the E 2010 album on FB.

our poor little girl gets the camera in her face so often she poses now!

Nic, I'm supposed to start at 8 but have been getting there about 7:45. You might still be around when I get in. (I won't be there before your appointment, LOL!) If you feel like it, please come and say hi! If you do and you find the door locked, knock and I'll come out.
Just going to log onto FB and catch up on some of the stuff I've missed...

Ok, am making the most of the girls' early night :)
I'm going to try to catch up on a couple of things...
Vic, Phoebe has bad breath sometimes. Onion does it to her usually. But I think it's a matter of preference - I would think her breath was DREADFUL if she had've been eating tuna or something. DH thinks her breath is awful if she's eaten tomato (which she does ALL THE TIME in her "commercial" lunches. Something which incidentally she has decided she has a marked preference for). Interestingly too (and I hope its not TMI) I find her poo stinks pretty badly but is actually not remarkably dissimilar to the way it goes in. Those mashed meals look pretty much the same in the nappy as they do in the bowl (just with some added in seeds from cucumber etc).

Re the cluckiness, I told DH the other day that working in a hospital is going to mess with my biological instincts. I really am happy with just my two, however every time I go to the loo at work I run into about a million pregnant women and another million women with newborns. It gives me a little twang in the tummy, this sad feeling of knowing that I'll never be in that exciting place again.

Krystie, about your DH's reservations on having the second while Kyson is still waking o/n, in some ways I think it's better to just keep up the sleep deprivation rather than having another kid once you are used to getting a full night's sleep (even most nights). It was tough going back to that newborn haze of sleeplessness after about a year of consistent 12-hour nights from Natty. Even now, I find it harder to go back to waking for feeds when Phoebe's given me a couple of nights of solid sleep.

Re the teething, I know that the Baby Love book says the same thing. *Shrug* they can do their studies all they like. I think there is WAY too much anecdotal evidence to support the fact that teething screws with some kids. I have been fortunate I think, that my kids haven't suffered too much with it. With Natty I saw in hindsight that teeth could've been responsible for some issues we had. And Phoebe still only has two! Has had them for ages and there's no sign of any more yet. Personally I don't really care if it's teeth or some other developmental issue, we know when something's up with our babies and it would seem a heck of a coincidence to find that there are consistently these unsettled times that resolve somewhat when teeth come through. That article is really good though to reference when they get which teeth. And even the adult teeth can be really variable in making an appearance too.

Bridg & Nicky, sorry to hear about the illnesses. I hope you and your little ones are much better soon. Fortunately the girls haven't passed their colds onto me, but it's hard enough dealing with just them. I think Natty is just about over hers which is a relief, but Phoebe is still struggling. Poor little mite. I'm pleased tonight is cooler though - I have put the vaporiser on in her room and have my fingers crossed for a more settled night.

Cathy & Naomi, re vacuums - ours pretty much carked it around Christmas and we bought a new one in January. (We got DH's business to pay for it. I did the cleaning there once. PMSL! But it's only fair - it's because of the stupid business that I have had to go back to work. It bloody well owes me a vacuum cleaner at the very least.) Anyhoo, we bought a red one and Natty no longer cries or whinges or runs and hides when I vacuum. She is not in love with it or anything but just doesn't find it as scary. She's obviously a very superficial little thing ;) Once I realised she wasn't as afraid of this one, I asked her if she'd like to have a turn and that helped too.

OK. I think my time is up. Goodnight! :D

I'm smiling ear to ear from all the compliments on the BF photos. Thanks girls! :)

Amy: LOL that Natty likes the RED vacuum. It is good when you ask them to help hey. I love this age when they actually WANT to help!! Laura loves to help me sort washing, get groceries (in her little shopping trolley), clean up mess (well SOME times LOL)

Krystie: So excited for you!! Hope AF comes really soon! SO glad you can BF too!

BG: Love the cute pics of Miss E!

Vic: Love the pics on the puffing billy! Awesome!

Nicole: Thanks for adding me to facebook!! Nice to have the whole gang on there! :)

Naomi: I reckon it's possible I've probably used the same knife for Cara occasionally that has had peanut butter on it for Laura's sandwich lol.

Hope all the sick bubbies get better soon!! Being Mum to a sick child is hard work, worse still if you are sick yourself.

I'm pretty tired..Cara woke up a lot last night...I was so stuffed I didn't make it to playgroup. She seems to have one rought night, followed by a good night, then a rough night.. It's cooler, but still humid. :-S

Doh, I'd written half a post, went off to get breakfast and tidy up and it seems my computer did one of those self update/restart activities so I've lost my post - DOH, double DOH!

Cathy - I have a few pics of BF Bailey, but nothing as lovely as yours :) Your photo's are wonderful and precious! Love them! We are going to Mums for a BBQ on Sat, I might give Bailey some peanut butter there LOL, so if anything happens there are plenty of ppl around, I would be VERY surpised at a reaction though, and DH has eaten peanut butter while playing with Bailz

Nic - GL with todays appointment, hope all goes well, and if you see Amy, can you give her a clip across the ear from me for calling me a whackjob PMSL!! I liked the quote, its so true and real, babies DO make time go all funny :) And besides, I only quote people I admire :)

BG - that little dress that E was wearing is super pretty, I looked at your wedding photo's (stunning btw) and saw the other little girl wearing it - did someone make it?

Krystie - I bet you are super excited right now! I remember feeling the same, I was so glad that it was all happening, but I do remember that when Sean did our first injection (he always did them for me), I burst into tears, I think the enormity of the situation kinda came to a head at that point, but it was worth it, I remember we soon got used to the jabs, we would inject me in the car on the way out to dinner etc LOL

Man, I was gonna do more persies but just realised what the time is, I gotta go put the little man down for a nap otherwise we will be late for our playdate with our mothers group - we are off to the playcafe again, the babies LOVE it

Also, Bailey has been waking at 4-5ish for the last 4 days, I am wrecked, I have ended up giving him a 5am bottle for the last two days as I can't get him back to sleep any other way, I think its teething with a bit of a growth spurt thrown in, I hope he goes back to sleeping until 6-630 before I go back to work :o

Will drop back in later........

Nay x

Nic - hope you've had some news now that your appt is over with.

Nay - that dress we managed to pic up rather cheap for my littlest niece at Chain Reaction (cheapie clothes) - we were having gold stars as part of the table theme so it just worked! her big sister was going to have a dress made to match the junior bridesmaid and other flower girl (Midgie was going to be unique and wear the white and carry the rings) - but family breakdown between DH and his nephew (father of the kids) and myself and nephews wife (skanky ho biatch that is forbidden in my home or near my baby after some stuff she said) meant their kids weren't able to be in the wedding (and the kids STILL don't know that it wasn't our decision - we wanted them - they're still DH's nieces! - hell, i still have their present in our safe for them when they're old enough to understand) - anyway - we were still going to get older nieces dress made as the dress like E had on didn't go up big enough - we were at fountain gate and found her the dress - completely different shop, only in the bigger sizes! so we grabbed that (i had the pattern ready to be cut out that night for the other dress!). so it worked out heaps better. the material for the three girls dresses is still here and will eventually be used for something for me or for E. it was going to bring the bridesmaids and Midgie (littlest niece) together - it is blue that shimmers gold.

was going to do more persies but miss E has jut hit her face on the chair - i thought it was near her ear, but it looks like she has scratched her little face as well

Hey ladies I WISH it was today it's actually tomorrow.

Amy will see how the visit goes but would love to meet you!!

good luck for 2moro nic

at the moment jamie has a love hate relationship with kiwi fruit one day he loves it one day he hates it

sorry Nic - i think we're all just jumping the gun cos we're so following you and Aaron and hoping for the best for you!

Oh gosh, what a draining evening. Those idiots who did the research saying that teething doesn't make an irritable or upset baby weren't here tonight to witness the shambles! Last night was actually a pretty good night, so tonight I thought I'd try Kyson without panadol and see how he went. I was worried that maybe I was dosing him up when he didn't really need it. Well, half an hour after he went to bed he woke up screaming. Then just screamed and screamed for about half an hour while I held him. Even when he stopped for a little while he would still be doing those big sobs that break your heart. Surely that can't be a coincidence! So that panadol is back on the cards and he can keep having it at night time if it's helping that much. I can't stand to see him cry like that. After the panadol kicked in he was happy as larry again and decided that his previous little sleep was actually a nap, and played happily for another couple of hours (did lots of walking practice). He's just gone back down to sleep now and hopefully the rest of the night is a bit better.

Nic - Good luck at the appointment tomorrow! Fingers crossed that you come here tomorrow to give us some GREAT news :hug:

BG - Hope E's face is ok! Kyson did a nice head bump on my SIL's coffee table last night. Ouchies!


Oh, has anyone seen my AF? Lol! Still no sign of it, and I'm worried that I may have felt ovulation pain today! I've been temping a little and I thought that I ovulated 2 weeks ago! Todays pain was hopefully just some gas, hehe. I'm just not sure how accurate the temping has been lately because you're meant to take your temp after at least 3 consecutive hours sleep (which hasn't happened in nearly 10 months), and Kyson's been more unsettled in the morning hours the last couple of weeks with teething. Also, another thing that's probably really messing things up is that Kyson has been rolling until he is laying up next to me during the night. His little body is probably warming me up and giving higher temps. Now I don't know where I'm at in my cycle! I sort of wish that I had bought some ovulation tests, but now it's too late. I see the nurse tomorrow and get all my drugs (oh, and pay our lovely big IVF with PGD bill, lol) so fingers crossed AF rocks up soon :)


Huge anti-germie vibes for the sickies!!!

Krystie - welcome to the world of "over-anylysing every symptom, body change, twinge, pain, etc etc" land" - I had forgotten about this! I feel I should give you a heads up........... your post reminded me how I used to wonder about everything I felt/thought I'd felt etc etc while going through IVF, wondering what that meant etc etc, wait until you are in the TWW - its excrutiating and the hardest part is that most of the fertility drug side effects are exactly the same as pregnancy symptoms - cramping, bloating, sore BBs etc. There's no point me telling you not to get caught up in it, its human nature, but the best thing is to talk it through. TMI but I was OBSESSED with going to the loo at the end of my TWW to check if AF had arrived, I HAD to use while toilet paper only so I would see ANY trace of AF, it becomes very consuming :o That said, its all PERFECTLY normal :)

Nic, you are prob at your appt about now, I am thinking of you and Aaron!! :)

Bailey has a physio appt this morning at 9am (I almost forgot about it until DH spotted it on the calender last night - whew). I am hoping she is pretty happy with his progress, I feel that his upper body strength and motor skills have improved out of site since our last appt so hopefully she agrees, obviously the motor skill delay is going to be an issue until he is well out of the brace, but I think in some ways it has encouraged him to develop his upper body quicker than he might have otherwise, we'll see, will report back later. Next thursday we have our xray and checkup with the orthopedic surgeon and I am hoping to get a clear idea of how effective the brace has been (we are halfway, still another 3 or so months to go), I have everything crossed that an improvement is noticable and its all working

I noticed I am on 999 posts - so once I post this I will be on 1000 - I've decided I rock!! PMSL

Nay
x

Krystie - if you are trying to bring on AF - plan a romantic night with DH **nudge nudge wink wink**, she'll no doubt arrive to spoil the party :D

Nay: I hope the physio appt goes well today! I am sure the physio will be impressed with him, getting around now as he is. Fingers crossed for the ortho appt too - I really hope that brace is doing everything it is meant to be.
Krystie: Sorry for a tough night last night. Glad you have worked out that the Panadol is giving Kyson some relief - at least there's one positive from a crappy night! Re AF, I keep thinking I am going to get mine but no sign yet. But I think I am in the opposite position - I really want her to stay away!!
Jacinta: Phoebe hasn't really had kiwi yet. I never think to buy it! You know sometimes you can get really sweet kiwi and sometimes they can be a bit tart? Maybe he likes the sweet ones and not the tart ones?

We have had a couple of not so great nights lately. Phoebe has been so blocked up at night that she's been waking pretty regularly again and coughing a fair bit too (just cause she keeps wanting to breathe through her nose and as a result is swallowing a whole lot of gunk, poor baby). Since giving the vaporiser a go though, she has been much improved and she seemed really well this morning, so I'm relieved. Hopefully tonight will be better.
DH is headed over to WA early tomorrow morning so the girls and I are on our own for a few days. I am hoping Phoebe starts to sleep better soon because I am going to be trashed otherwise!
Okeys, better get back to work. Today is my first day here on my own and fortunately it has been pretty quiet.

Hey Ladies, back from our Neuro consult and good and bad news.

Good first is that although Aaron has Hydro it is only a mild case.
Bad news is that we still need to have a few tests done before a decision is made in regards to surgery.
They are arranging an eye test and genetics testing to be done and then we will see the neuro again. (he wants to see us in 6 weeks)
He is concerned that there has been change in the MRI and the recent CT to indicate that the fluid level is not absorbing as fast as it should be.
There is no urgent push on Surgery until these two tests have been done and then depending on the results and his head growth Aaron will then have pressure tests done to see how bad the fluid levels are.
The Neuro feelings is that based on the growth over the last few months surgery is what he is thinking but does not want to jump in as some kids do out grow this extra fluid.

My head is a mess I thought the 2WW was bad that is nothing compared to this BS, I feel so angry that my baby boy may need this surgery but we were told today if it does get done he will lead a happy and healthy long life and still play footy....(not that I care).

Ahhhh I’m sure it will all be ok in the end and we will do what needs to be done and I :pray: soooo hard that his head can just stop growing and he won't need anything done.
To say I am scared is an understatement but all I can do is love and treat Aaron no different as he is still the same little boy who brings so much love and light in to our lives.

Amy, sorry I didn't pop past but all I wanted to do was get in the car and get out.

Nic- I'm soooooo sorry it wasn't all good news. :hug: Did they say why they wanted to do the eye and genetic test? You know that we are all here for you whenever you need us. Fingers crossed he does outgrow it, and doesn't have to have surgery. I can understand how scared you must be, so please please talk to us if you need. I am also sure that Aaron knows how much you and DH love him, and how blessed you are to have him.

Huge hugs sweets, and you know my number if you need me.
xxx

Thanks Bridg, every time I think about the what if's I burst out crying...
The eye test is to make sure that the extra fluid (pressure behind eye) has not caused any damage, and the genetic testing is to confirm that there is no other reason why he has Hydro??!?!

nic - :hug: hope it works out and he does outgrow it :)

we are having a party for jamies birthday at my mums on the 15th you are all welcome to come its not really a fancy thing its just casual bbq so if u arent doing anything else and want a free feed ur welcome to come :) details will be on FB when i do invites for everyone else :)

Oh Nic, I have tears for you, I understand how scary the thought of surgery must be, I'm so sorry it wasn't all good news sweetheart, gosh these little ones are so precious to us and you are dead right when you say you don't need this BS, it just gets in the way of enjoying our babies without all that worry constantly at the back of your mind. There is nothing to say except it sucks ar$e, I wish I could give you a hug, and Aaron too :hug: I hope the coming months bring you good news. Have a bloody good cry and a bit of a rage at the world, its normal and it might help deal with the emotions, although it probably feels a bit raw right now

Sending healthy, happy vibes your way :hug:

I went to see my IVF nurse today and pick up all my drugs and got home to find that AF has arrived! YAY!!! I start on the drugs tomorrow. For those that have done IVF and are curious about my doses:
Days 2-4: Gonal F - 112.5IU each night (I think that's the 2nd lowest dose the pen injection thing can give...)
Days 5-7: Orgalutran 0.25mg each morning, Gonal F - 112.5IU each night
Day 8: I have a 7.45am ultrasound and bloods to check follicle growth and find out if I need to stay on the drugs or if I'm ready for egg pickup.

Oh gosh! It's just hitting home that in 7-8 days we might be making a baby!


Nay - Yup, I was totally over analysing. AF arrived today only a day or two after I expected hehe. Lol, I remember one time after we had found out we were pregnant with Kyson I wiped after going to the toilet and thought there was blood. Turned out the wee had made the red print on the other side of the paper show through. False alarm, haha. I stuck to plain white after that (which I usually prefer anyway to avoid UTI's).

How did Bailey's physio apt go? It sounds like he's been doing fantastically, so hopefully the physio thinks the same :) Half way mark already?! Wow! I know it's probably seemed like such a long time to you, but at least you now know your over the hump and time should fly by now.

Happy 1000 postiversary!!! :dance:

Amy - Oh poor Phoebe! I'm glad that vapouriser is helping, but it just must be so horrible to see her struggling. Fingers crossed that her being better this morning is a sign that she's recovering.

Happy first day at work!!! :clap: or :doh: hehe

Nic - Fantastic news that the hydro is only a mild case! Sorry that he still needs more tests done, but at least you know they are being thorough. Let's hope that the tests come back with news that he'll outgrow it. But hopefully if he needs surgery you can find out soon and have it done so that you can stop worrying about everything. Although, I'm sure we ever fully stop worrying about these precious little people ;)

Jacinta - I'll pop Jamie's party on the calender! Oh, and keep May 2nd free if you would like to come to Kyson's party. I'll send out some invites (once I make them, lol).

Nicole: *Hugs* I'm sorry to hear about how things went today. I will pray that things will work out for little Aaron. He is a gorgeous little boy, I love seeing his photos on facebook!

Naomi: I have read your post on facebook. You are such a Mummsy Mum (i mean that in a NICE way..I consider myself the same hehe)...it must be so hard to have to leave Bailey soon. I think a lot of women want to go back to work, and a lot of women would prefer to stay home. I know some women go stir crazy if they stay at home, and sometimes it's just a necessity for financial reasons. I stayed at home when my first was born, but we had to sell the 2nd car and cut back on things to make ends meet. One of the worst birthdays I ever had was my 26th birthday when I had no car and hubby worked. There are a lot more expenses these days too I guess...mobiles, internet and the rest.. My sister never wanted to go back to work with her first baby, but she got to stay home once the twins arrived. Maybe next bubby you can stay home?

Krystie: Yay for AF arriving (never thought I'd be cheering someone for that hehe). Mine can stay away..I don't care if I have Cara waking up every night...periods suck hehe (except when you need them to make babies hehe)

I think Cara is trying to clap hands....and last night she stood up and let go...I think it was an accident though...hehehe Freaked me out!!

Nic- It's ok to burst into tears whenever you need to. It shows that you love your little man. Has anyone on either yours or DH's side ever had Hydro?

Krystie- I had an AF you could of had last week, but glad to hear she has turned up on her own. Will be exciting to hear all about the journey.

Gosh, I haven't even thought about Logan's birthday yet!

Nothing earth shattering from our appt. Physio was pretty happy with Baileys improved upper body strength and was pretty impressed that he is started to get mobile. She gave me some ideas to help promote leg strength etc - eg place a ball between his legs and encourage him to lift it, and to help him crawl forward, she suggested when he is crawling backwards to help push him forwards using his feet and it will encourage him to drag himself forward a bit, she showed me how and Bailey crawled forward a little, pretty cool, so I'll try these tips and a few others she gave me. The only real concern is that Bailey doesn't weight bare AT ALL on his legs (brace or not) so this will likely delay any walking which is kinda expected anyway. We don't go back to see her now until late May (or June if he isn't out of the brace until then), there is only so much we can do at this point with him, the brace cuts out a fair majority of the exercises she would normally encourage understandably, but he's doing really well all things considered. I am dead keen for the ortho appt next week, I wanna be sure this damn brace is doing something!!

Krystie - CONGRATS on AF (never thought I'd say that to someone PMSL) ETA - Cathy I just saw you wrote the same thing LOL

:) kirsty yay for AF we would love to come but were saving so we can go to my mums for jamies birthday :doh: wish petrol wasnt so expensive and i could go where i want when i want oh well i suppose i chose to live out here so im not really allowed to complain why are birthdays so expensive? bah

Jamie is really getting the hang of standing up im so looking forward to when he does it all the time lol

Krystie, WOoo Hoo for AF!! Actually she visited me as well ;)

My first cycle:-
Same as Second but cant remember when the b/t were....but have them for my Aaron cycle :dance:

Second Cycle:-
Day 2-6 / 125IU Puregon
Day 6 Blood test and U/S
Day 6-11 /125IU Puregon & Orgalutran
Day 8 Blood test and u/s
Day 11 Blood test and u/s
Day 11 Trigger
Day 13 EPU
Day 18 ET

Nicole - I just want to give you huge hugs. You are going through what we thought we were going to be going through with DS. I can empathise with you. I just want to give you some massive hugs as there is nothing I can say that will make anything better. I really hope your the fluid levels just go down naturally for your little man. GBH. xxoo


Krystie - yay for AF!! I hoep that this IVF cycle works a treat and I'll be really interested to hear how you go with it, especially being someone who really doesn't have much knowledge about all things IVF. All the best!

Hi everyone!
Just packing bags for the night away (How sad that I have to pack a suitcase for us to stay at my parents for one night... ). We've got an engagement party on tonight so Mum and Dad are looking after the kids.
Can't shake these colds. The kids and I are all still blocked up, although not as bad as we have been. The weather here today is just YUCK, so just makes us feel so much better... Not.

Everytime Allira stands up now she takes 2-3 steps then drops herself on her bum. This has only been happening today after she took a few steps on her own last night. She won't stop it today. My folks will be very excited when they see her later.


Anyway, better head off. Have a great weekend. xxoo

Nicky - Hope the colds leave your household soon, are they doing the loop through the family over and over? I know what you mean about a suitcase for one night..... LOL whether or not we go away for one night or 10 we seems to taked way too much hehehe. Sounds like Allira is going to be walking very soon with the few steps, it wont take much and she'll be off - another one for you to chase around heheheehe

We finally had a nice Sunday where the stupid weather was well abouve 30 degree's - Yay! We headed down to Glenelg (sea-side suburb of Adelaide) and took Bailey to the Beachouse - lotsa fun (actually I think we enjoyed playing all the arcade games better LOL), but we took him on his first train ride and carousel - he was curiously blazè - no bursting smile but seemed content

Other than that I had a mega cry to DH this morning about going back to work, I was getting teary about it every time it's mentioned but today I just couldn't stop crying, had a bit of a breakdown, but it was probably good to get it all out. We talked about a few different things, and the fact that if we were still in our old house with our old mortgage I wouldn't need to go back to work yet, and although we briefly discussed the idea of living in a cheaper house etc, thats really not what either of us want to do, it would be a big step back for us and would take months or more to do anyway, we wouldn't get the money we would want for our house in the current climate etc etc and then we would have no savings capacity for IVF baby number 2 etc so we are making the right decision for our families future so I feel more at peace with it from that perspective, but far out, I am an emotional wreck right now. :crying: I didn't think it would be this hard. I really want to enjoy this last week, but it's gonna be bittersweet. I just gotta work through it!

Thank you all for your support on my FB post about the same thing :grouphug:

So throw a few "Toughen Up Princess"s my way, :boohoo:I might need a slap about the ear or two, but I am counting on you guys to get me through it all, so sorry in advance if I am a big sookie sookie la la over the next few days/weeks, I'm sure in no time I'll adjust to the change in our family life (although I'm sure I'll never be happy about going to work and leaving my baby)........ plenty of other fantastic mothers have gone through the same thing so I can do it too!

Nay
x

Thanks for all the support ladies, you are all the greatest!!
Am doing ok today still a bit of a mess yesterday but I know that whatever needs to be done for Aaron we will do it.

Nicky, did they think your DS had Hydro?

Naomi, BIG hugs to you.
Will not play any"Toughen Up Princess"s lines for you cause I am sure it is such a hard reality for you this week.
I take my hat of to you for being so brave, I don't have a job to go back to so the thought of work hasn't crossed my mind but can only imagine how you must be feeling.
You and your DH are doing your very best for Master Bailey to give him a beautiful home and a future sibling. These things do come at a cost but in the long run will be very worth it.

BTW the pics on FB are super cute esp with puppy :)

Sorry - super-quick-flying-out-the-door post...
Nic: Just hugs for you, babe. I had hoped that it was just that you needed to get going, but when I didn't see you I wondered if you'd gotten some less than good news. I am glad you are feeling more positive about things today, and of course you will do whatever you can for your baby. You are a strong mum and Aaron's going to be great.
Nay: I know how you are feeling. I remember going back to work after Natalie and although she was almost 13 months old, it was still really tough. And of course you know what a roller-coaster it's been with Phoebe. So I feel for you, there's nothing else I can say except of course you are making the right decision for you and your family. You will certainly miss Bailz, but the time with him will be all the more valuable and precious. And, I also think you are giving S a MASSIVE gift by going back so's he can have some time with Bailey! So few dads get that opportunity.

I am sorry - I'll try to pop back on sometime today. Love to you all. xx

Cara is trying to clap...it's so cute. She just misses her hands though hehe. She is pulling to stand up a LOT now. With a teenager and her homework around, we have to watch she doesn't get into everything now.

I can't believe it is March!! OMG! My best friend is due to have her baby this week. Her and her family (her, hubby, 4 and 2 year old) all have had whopping cough!! this past few weeks so I haven't seen them since christmas. She doesn't believe in immunisation. She's exhausted being that close to having the baby and kids throwing up everywhere. I am so glad my kids never had it. We had a close call when Cara was a newbie, but I got her shots as soon as she hit 2 mths (me too).
The same Mum is thinking of home schooling her kids. I don't think I could do that, I kind of like the break I get them they go to school hehe I think it's good for them to make friends and socialize too.

Cara turns 9mths this week...time sure is flying! I guess we will celebrate on wednesay..having a baby born on the 31st is strange. I must see what the ticker says hehe

Nay: I know IVF is expensive. I guess you just have to think that work will bring you one step closer to your next bubby. And it is soooo cool that S can look after Bailey til he goes to Childcare. It is rare for Dads to get that chance.

Nicole - During the 20 week scan they were worried about DS' ventricles. That they were too large. I ended up being sent to Melb for a tertiary scan etc to get a better look. I spoke with a few specialists who told me a tiny bit about what would happen if DS still had oversized brain ventricles after the birth, and how we'd go to the royal Childrens after an initial scan at home if it was a worry.
I continued having growth scans for the remainder of the pregnancy and DS had a scan on his head when he was a few weeks old. His ventricles were still above average, but nothing that they said they would be too concerned about and we had to monitor his head size from then on. We've been really lucky that DS' hasn't had to have any further done to him, and his head size although on the exta large side of things, was perfect for him and followed it's own curve.
So although I've not been where you are, I really do feel for you. I wish you and your little man all the very very best and if there's anything I can do to help, please let me know.
xxoo

Hi girls!
Naomi - I am sure I would feel exactly the same as you are right now in regards to work if it was me. Don't feel down on yourself, what you are feeling is so totally normal. I wish you didn't have to feel it... how nice if we all didn't depend on money so much.
You are making the right decision for you and your family hun. In a few years time, you will not regret a thing. I'm sure of it.


Hi everyone! Getting a few more steps from Allira now. Still wouldn't class it as walking just yet.
Allira had her 4th swimming lesson yesterday and she was just amazing! She seems like such a natural. I shouldn't be surprised as Lachie picked it all up so so quickly, but she is just amazing me with what she can do! She absolutely loves it.
Not much on the cards this week. Same old stuff really. I've been camping out on the lounge when the kids are in bed watching outrageous fortune and LMAO big time.

Ok that's it fo me. Time to get ready for strength training.

xxoo

Thanks girls, your words of support are really helpful (and appreciated), it actually made me tear up (but in a good way) cos you made me feel loved and understood :) And Amy - I wanted to say that if a great Mum like you can do it, then I can too, so thanks, I know you have gone through it twice now with returning to work recently yet again and you always handle stuff with dignity and style (and a hell of a lot of humour thrown in!)

I realised in my last post that I said our sunday was well above 30 degrees, I actually meant it was nice that it WASN'T - LOL, but having said that we had a mild 23 here today, I actually put long sleeves and long pants on Bailz - he was pulling at his sleeves as if to say "What the hell is THIS?" LOL. I put the pants on I made, they are terribly baggy and disgustingly made but looked kinda cool in a baggy-gansta-rapper kinda way :ROFL: At least they fit over his brace with ease! Will have to post some photo's on FB to show you what I mean hehehehe

Well my work clothes fit - they are actually bigger on me than before, I am a few KG lighter than pre-pregancy which is a miracle considering all the mothers group morning tea's I've eaten over the last few months, so that was a nice confidence boost. I might shout myself to a new outfit or two after I have finished Baileys birthday shopping :)

BG - just wanted to send you hugs honey, I saw on FB the stuff about C's job offer etc, that must be frustrating as hell - bloody money!! Wouldn't we all love a big lotto win right about now!

Cathy - that photo of Cara in the bouncer @ 3 and 9 months is a good reflection on how quick these babies grow - far out! It really makes you realise how precious time is - as blink and you'll miss it all!

Nic - You are a strong lady and a doubly strong Mum - you are dead right, as Mums we just do what needs to be done, and I admire you during this tough time. Whats your timeline now? Do you have to wait the 6 weeks until the next neuro appt for more info? Or will you get some of the test outcomes earlier? Sorry I had to bail yesterday when we were chatting, I lost your number as I logged out of FB chat and when I re-opened it last night it was there and before I got around to putting it in my phone it was gone, for whatever reason the chat window didn't keep the chat log as it normally does :(

Krystie - I cant recall the particulars of my cycle, but reading Nicole's I recall it being very similar, perhaps my dosage was lower, I remember it was a low dose

Nicky - glad to hear Allira is loving her swimming, we love it here too, and Sean has taken Bailey a few times and he is going to continue to take him on Tuesdays. Has Allira been underwater yet? That's always funny (unless of course they hate it with a passion!!)

Right, it's almost Bailey's dinner time, I better go arrange some food! He gets a bit rowdy when he is hungry - just basically yells for food HAHAHHA

Nay
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She loves going underwater, although she drinks a fair amoutn of it. She keeps those bug eyes wide open though.

Hey my gorgeous Mummas!

Naomi- Sorry but you will not get any 'suck it up princess' comments from me either. Looks like you will just have to take our support. Your Sunday Funday sounds like something I would love to do with our family. I think Bailey would look gorgeous in anything you dress him in. Yay for the work clothes fitting. It's always good when clothes are a little baggier than last time you wore them.

Krystie- Glad things on the IVF front are looking good.

BG- Sorry to hear about C's job that he had to turn down. Fingers crossed something comes up soon.

Cathy- I'm loving the pics on FB!

Nicky- I can imagine when Allira gets the gist of walking. Look out Lachie! Is outrageous fortune on normal tele or pay tv?

AFU, Logan is always on the move now. Anything he can pull himself up on and walk around, he's there! He has 2 bottom teeth now. He has lost his baby look and looks more like a toddler. Jake and Zac are doing really well at school. Some of the things they come home with are hilarious! It's just over 3 weeks until the end of Term 1.

Huge hugs to all my beautiful Mummas! xxx

Hi Ladies,

Sorry been missing in action. I have gotten the house fully sorted now so ppl have been trying to catch up with me left right and center!! including one of my girlfriends who is 42wks pregnant and wants me to come to her home birth to be her support person (she has a MW) so that has me tickled pink!!!

Girls can I just sat I was driving in the car the other day and I thought of all the times I have come onto here to have a good whinge or tell my troubles, have received fabulous support and by the time I have gotten back on here I have forgotten to say thank you. So I just want to say thank you for all the kind worlds the sympathy and empathy and the endless support. You girls rock!! And you are my rock! I can imagine us in 5yrs time when this thread closes permanently that we will just have to demand that Kelly give us a new kind of thread which keeps going for 20 yrs! LOL

Sorry no persies, I am knackered and I have been neglecting DH lately and he is due home any moment!!

AFM, well I am tired but well. getting to know some of the other mothers in my community and catching up with a group of girls from work who have all gotten pregnant together. It is really funny cos we were all in the social group who were left out of the social group.... does that make sense??? We weren't in the "it" crowd ( there is like 100 chicks in the ED I worked it). Anyway it is a bit like high school and non of us wanted to play. So now we r all hanging out a bit more often cos we arn't all on shifts and it is really nice! So we havn't excluded anyone but they dont bother to come to anything we do so it suits us all just fine and we r really bonding closer.

Anyway I must go. It is pouring with rainand DH is 1/2 hr over due from work... I hope he is ok.

Love you all
Bella

sigh - i did a huge post on the other computer yesterday, posted, then closed - come on here today and it's gone! dammit! not happy

anyway, i'll try to remember - i had lots of persies but that just feels too hard

Nay - just wanted to agree - you'll get no "suck it up princess" attitude from me either. you'll get support and admiration - and a bit of stalker thrown in there for good measure! i'm going to be going back to work in April, so will be following how you're coping (as i have with Amy - but possibly more for you cos this is your first kiddy - hope that makes sense!). we have no choice financially but for me to return to work, so mentally i'm ok with it - emotionally not so much. but we'll get there. it's a short time each week to allow us to survive - she deserves that from me!

thanks for the comments about DH's job offer. it's really disheartening for him - he's an awesome provider emotionally and physically - and it's really messing with his head that he can't be the financial breadwinner that he thinks he's supposed to be. he is working, but it's not steady and the money is crap - but he won't NOT work. it's just who he is. at least the temp agency have restructured their file on him now so that any labour work that comes up they can contact him. he has an interview today and we'll see about getting some funding for him to do his tickets that he needs for traffic management, as there are a few jobs going that need that at the moment. once he has them, he can get some work locally on roads crews - he's done the job a hundred times before while working driving a tipper (he gets in and helps do other peoples jobs rather than bein bored lol) - just needs the official bit of paper so that they can hire him for OH&S reasons

Bella - i dont think any of us expect specific thanks for any support - that's what we're here for and we all understand that it's welcomed and needed and that it will always be there whether you voice the word thankyou or not. it's an unwritten gratefulness from everyone for everyone in this thread!


Bridg - yay for Logan being mobile! doesn't sound like he's letting any of his visual problems slow him down at all which is just fantastic! i can't believe it's only 3 weeks til holidays! so early this year!!

Krystie - i was on high dose drugs for most of my cycles cos my dumb body didn't agree with being forced to do anything, so i won't bore you with dosage details, but i can let you know for the full IVF cycle:
Day 1-6 - puregon only
Day 7 BT, puregon and orgalutron (antagonist)
Day 8-9 puregon and orgalutron
day 10 u/s, puregon and orgalutron
day 11 puregon and orgalutron
day 12 puregon and trigger (from memory)
day 13 drug free
day 14 EPU
day 16 - crinone started, used twice daily until BT
day 17 transfer
day 26 AF arrived early
day 28 BT confirmed it hadn't worked this time

our other cycles were different each time. but this was the full EPU cycle. i got BFP's on IUI cycles and on a frozen embryo transfer cycle - each one was different. we tweaked each time until we got the right mix of things to give us Miss E - BUT, my body is VERY difficult and almost as stubborn as my red head attitude - so that's why we have dramas!

how are you going with the jabbing now?

well, must away - lots more to write, but i have to get myself organised to head into town. having lunch and dinner with my folks - as a trade off for DH and I doing some landscaping for them! yay us! lol

My friend Belinda had her baby yesterday (her 3rd). Little girl 3.3kg (her smallest, the first two were 4kg and 3.6kg). They are naming her Sara (as in Cara). She came home from hospital within a few hours. Natural birth, no stitches. I told her WELL DONE!! Cara was like that...pretty easy birth (except for the backache labour!). I think I deserved no stitches after going through so much pain! Posterier labour..no fun!! Least she turned around to be born. :)

Our weather has turned NICE!!! Rain (for a few days by the looks of it)and cooler temps...phew. So nice to sleep without the fan going all the time!

Bel: It's always nice to feel appreciated. Though i do agree, there is an unwritten gratefulness from everyone. Nevertheless, everyone appreciates a thank you...good manners are sadly lacking these days. I'd like to say thanks to everyone too...for the advice and for letting an old timer (4th time Mum) crash the group. I still learn new things from parenting..believe it or not.

I know what you mean about never being part of the 'it' group at work too Bel. I hated that. Especially when all the smokers gathered outside for their gossip. I missed out on being part of the circle. And it seemed like high school all over again.

Bridg: I remember Ronan starting to look like a little man (boy) by about 9mths. It was funny how he lost the baby look earlier. I dont know if it's cause he was a boy. But he seemed to grow up (in looks) more so than the girls. Maybe boys have stronger features? that is why????

Naomi: I took a pic of Cara in her red car today and remembered a pic of her in it at 3 weeks of age...so I did a collage (it's in my collage pics next to the other one I did hehe)

Nicole, Krystie: I am totally hooked on farmville on facebook now.arghhhhh.

Off to do some housework...damn it! This rain makes me feel lazy (well that is my excuse today hehe)

LOL Cathy..me too..nothing like farming hey ;)

Super quick post trying to get Aaron to bed so I can watch McDreamy....

Has anyone noticed if their bubbas voice has changed??
Aaron has and only in the last 4 days it's a bit crocky wingy and just really different....
I don't think he is sick or anything but his hydro has made me a very stressed out mum and the poor kid could just be growing hense his voice and cry is changing.

BBL McDreamy is on is 30 min...woooooo hoooooo!!

Nic - yeah, I have noticed a change a few times over the past few months, lately he has a little toddler yabber, he yabbers all day, but he has also developed a rather annoying whinge that sounds like "nahnahnahnahnahnahnah" in an equally annoying pitch :o

Cathy - just checked out the pics, what a massive difference 6 months makes!

Bella - yeah hopefully by the time our kids are 5 these threads will keep going, otherwise we'll just have to hijack another thread LOL. I totally agree with you re always finding support in our thread, I think the thing that makes it so special is that we just get each other, no massive explanations needed! We are pretty lucky to have such an awesome support network

BG - Hope your lunch and dinner were fun! Oh I forgot about cronine (or perhaps I pushed it to the dark depths of my mind!!) Fanny Polyfilla!! :rofl: Pretty disgusting stuff, I actually reacted to it after using it for most of the 2WW, had massively strong cramping and remember being on the loo almost fainting about 2 days before my BT to see if I was pg. I thought it was all over at this point, thought a massive AF was on the way. Anyhoo they told me to stop using it and come in a day early for my BT instead which was kinda nice, we found out a day earlier! Krystie - its a cream you insert up your 'whohaa' that helps implantation of the embryo. It's a bit messy but hell, the whole process is really!!

Bridg - you have to post some of the twins school comments to give us a laugh! Good on Logan for getting about, nothing will stop your little man, glad to hear he is doing well

Must away, I need to tidy up dinner, do a quick vacuum etc before Grays starts, like Nicole I am a McDreamy fan **drools**. :hello: to everyone else!!

Oooooh, just quickly though, at swimming today my little fish was sitting on the side of the pool and did Humpty Dumpty all by himself for the first time. He sat there, then leaned forward into the pool, went under and swam to my arms - I am BURSTING with pride!!!

Nay
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