Do you believe in evolution or what your holy book says?

[Turkish Delight]

I have another question. Well it's not really a question as such...well it is...

I wonder how Adam and Eve knew about DTD? How did they know that "that" goes "there" ????

And what they thought when Eve's bump appeared and when she went into labour and the baby's cord etc...

[Maruschke]

I have another question. Well it's not really a question as such...well it is...

I wonder how Adam and Eve knew about DTD? How did they know that "that" goes "there" ????

And what they thought when Eve's bump appeared and when she went into labour and the baby's cord etc...

It must have been a bit when a baby came out. And... no episiotomy, no pain relief... no one to help her how to breastfeed or even to know to put the baby to the boob. Perhaps they relied on instinct? I think it is kinda instinctual to know what to do when it comes to DTD .

[Heaven]

I just assume God gave them some kind of instructions about all that.

Genesis 1:

28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

I suppose he elaborated a bit, lol. Or maybe just created them with the knowledge seeing as they were created as adults already, not babies iykwim?

[butterfly_warrior]

There's the thing... pain in childbirth didn't come until after the fall. I am unclear as to whether children were born before or after the fall, and can't really check at the moment (wiggle worm on lap and bible in the other room)

BW

[Phteven]

Muslims don't belive that pain in childbirth is punishment for Eve's mistakes. Why would all women be punished for the mistake of one? We also reject the concept of original sin.

[butterfly_warrior]

How does your creation/fall story differ from the Christian one, brontide?

I was going by Genesis 3:16 -

To the woman he said,
"I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing;
with pain you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you."

I guess it does say increase pains in childbearing, not that it was completely pain-free before hand!

I'm not entirely convinced that everything in Genesis is completely chronological - just because Cain and Abel aren't mentioned until chapter 4 and the fall happens in chapter 3, I don't think necessarily means they were born after the fall. I vaguely recall reading something about that, but I've got no idea where to start looking for a definitive answer.

BW

[widdly]

im loving this conversation.

I am still learing about the Bible, but so far I believe in Creationism but dont discount evolution. I believe both are probably true its just that we will probably never really know exactly what happened.

I am finding it extremely =interesting to learn that Muslim and Christian are so similar!

One the subject of Adam and Eve knowing what to do DTD, pregnancy, childbirth. I think it would have been instinctual, just like animals, they just know what to do.

I am still reading Genesis atm, interesting to think that Cain and Abel may have been born before the fall...