Yes, I agree Rory Looking for a variety of answers... just to gain some new perspective. I often read in other threads a frustration and strong desire for some kind of proof of God's existence before some members will commit to belief... so I was just wondering if those members had given any thought to what the ramifications of proof might be? Personally I feel ambivalent about God proving himself to me or the world. I think it does better things for my soul to accept that I won't know one way or the other while am alive. It's frustrating but good in that it forces me to relinquish control of the situation. It forces me into a position of humility. This is just speaking for me personally. I think about this nearly every day... and my mind swings like a pendulum... do I need to know/ Don't I need to know? Back and forth. Intuitively it feels slightly better accepting that I don't need to know.