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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Jul 2005
    Rural NSW
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    Question If You Were God Would You Prove Yourself?

    Me: no, I wouldn't.
    Why: for a start I suspect it would harm the world. People would expect me to fight all the battles that make them better/stronger/compassionate people. Souls would not grow stronger because all the "exercise" of struggle would be taken away. Souls would become couch potatoes. People would therefore never become my equal and be able to join me in my dimension (Heaven). It would set up an unhealthy dynamic and people would become mere pawns on my chess board. Freewill would not be a choice... because I was "proven" everybody would either become passively obedient or if they didn't care about the total destruction of their soul post death they would possibly battle hard in final blazes of glory and that would be that forever more.

    What about you?

    (sorry if this hypothetical thread offends... I know that some faiths might interpret this as offensive... please PM if this is the case).

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    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Middle Victoria
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    I don't know if that would be the outcome, because of those that are convinced of your existence, that isn't necessarily how they act.

    Now back to the first part, would you prove yourself? I don't know how you could prove yourself to all people. Not everyone believes in gravity, a round world, evolution or climate change even though I may say there is enough evidence to support each theory. I don't know what act would be proof-ful enough for every person. And if we say that rather than an act (that people can assess) you just whisper in every person's ear, and then they know you are true, then this isn't really proof, as it could also be seen as mass psychosis.

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    Jul 2005
    Rural NSW
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    Ok, interesting tangent: How could God prove himself? Well... let's say he chose different methods according to the community/person. Maybe he would work through people we already trust/acknowledge as leaders... maybe we'd turn on the news and Kevin Rudd would be making a public announcement... and then we turn the channel and Queen Elizabeth is doing the same thing... and then on another channel Barrack Obama is on CNN I guess if the G20 leaders were all convinced then we'd all have to sit up and take notice. Then what?

  4. #4
    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    Jan 2005
    Funky Town, Vic
    7,070

    oh yeah - there would be flying pigs everywhere and I'd probably release a few flying elephants too!

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    BellyBelly Member

    Jul 2009
    somewhere
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    IMO you need to ask God to prove that he is real to you if you want him to and he will

    but if i was God himself I would not prove myself unless i was asked to then I would IMO

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Middle Victoria
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    Ok, interesting tangent: How could God prove himself? Well... let's say he chose different methods according to the community/person. Maybe he would work through people we already trust/acknowledge as leaders... maybe we'd turn on the news and Kevin Rudd would be making a public announcement... and then we turn the channel and Queen Elizabeth is doing the same thing... and then on another channel Barrack Obama is on CNN I guess if the G20 leaders were all convinced then we'd all have to sit up and take notice. Then what?
    Ok, i wouldn't be convinced by a public statement by any of these people, so a new method would be needed for me.

    I know there is a word to describe it but i can't remember what it is, a person who needs to actually have evidence for something before they believe it. So nothing exists, unless i have concrete evidence for it existing. I am kinda on the edge of believing in that philosophy. People lie too often, or don;t hold require the same degree of 'proof' (as I), and so they may accept something without examining the evidence to the same degree as i would.

  7. #7

    Oct 2005
    A Nestle Free Zone... What about YOU?
    5,374

    Interesting....

    I agree with Kate any of those folk making an announcement wouldn't budge me an inch!!!! I think that is called healthy cynicisim!!!!

    I dom't see God as outside myself but rather a part of who we all are... So it's a different perspective to the previous one...

    I see Faith as a feeling and not something that can be quantified. So, what would be proof would be different to each individual... I also don't think Faith can be proved...

  8. #8
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Feb 2006
    South Eastern Suburbs, Vic
    6,054

    If I was God, we'd all be in BIG trouble.

    How would I prove myself - just say hello from the sky - 'Hi guys, it's God, what's happening? No no, don't tell me, I already know, I'm God remember? I was just trying to be friendly'.
    Piece of cake for God to prove himself, but he'd need to make sure everyone was paying attention, which might involve taking away free will.
    No point with the sound and light show and flying donkeys and breakdancing angels and beautiful creation or small still voice if people aren't watching for it...

    I seem to recall parts of the New Testament where Jesus refused to do miracles sometimes because it was just light entertainment for people and it didn't change their hearts and lives.