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thread: Something interesting to ponder...

  1. #1
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    Dec 2007
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    Smile Something interesting to ponder...

    My DH found this on another forum (one of his weird guy ones haha) and forwarded it to me and I thought it was interesting - and could spark some interesting discussions (maybe? haha)

    You were on your way home when you died.
    It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless.
    You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.
    And that’s when you met me.
    “What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?”
    “You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.
    “There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”
    “Yup,” I said.
    “I… I died?”
    “Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said.
    You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?”
    “More or less,” I said.
    “Are you god?” You asked.
    “Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”
    “My kids… my wife,” you said.
    “What about them?”
    “Will they be all right?”
    “That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.”
    You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.
    “Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”
    “Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?”
    “Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”
    “Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”
    “All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.”
    You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?”
    “Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.”
    “So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.”
    “Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.”
    I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had.
    “You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”
    “How many times have I been reincarnated, then?”
    “Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.”
    “Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?”
    “Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.”
    “Where you come from?” You said.
    “Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”
    “Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.”
    “Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.”
    “So what’s the point of it all?”
    “Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?”
    “Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted.
    I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.”
    “You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”
    “No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.”
    “Just me? What about everyone else?”
    “There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.”
    You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…”
    “All you. Different incarnations of you.”
    “Wait. I’m everyone!?”
    “Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.
    “I’m every human being who ever lived?”
    “Or who will ever live, yes.”
    “I’m Abraham Lincoln?”
    “And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.
    “I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.
    “And you’re the millions he killed.”
    “I’m Jesus?”
    “And you’re everyone who followed him.”
    You fell silent.
    “Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”
    You thought for a long time.
    “Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”
    “Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.”
    “Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?”
    “No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.”
    “So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”
    “An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.”
    And I sent you on your way.


    We have discussed it here and think that they are talking metaphorically - and that we are all one of the same (not necessarily that part about living every life - cos we don't really think that part of it) and that basically everything that you do to others, you are doing to yourself.

    Anyway - I thought it was interesting!!!

  2. #2
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    Nov 2007
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    That's fantabulous! Love, love, love it!

    It kinda comes close to one of my beliefs. People often say they wonder how 'God' (or whatever they believe in) can allow bad things to happen to good people. My belief is that the bad being done is atonement for that 'victims' previous sins - karma if you will. But we bounce back and forward in time (like it says here).

    Fascinating and I'd love to hear others thoughts on this!

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    May 2007
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    Whoa dude... LOVE IT!

    Let me go think before I post...

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    Absolutely love it! Everything I have ever pondered in one short little story! Although in my investigations I have come to believe that there are soul collectives or families...which allows for the presence of other sentient species in the universe besides humans.
    Last edited by AnyDream; October 16th, 2010 at 08:47 PM.

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    Wow, that's pretty cool

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    Wow... I love it too.

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    I love it too Mel (& my book that arrived today in my PO box! ). I'm withMD. I also need to ponder before reply...

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    Let me think on this and get back to you. I can see some strange dreams happening tonight over this.

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    Hmmm. Don't agree with most of it and think it's a bit silly.

    I do nice things - because I am selfish. When I do something nice, I get a happy hormone rush. Payback. When I do something nice, it is just for me.

    However, I really can't agree with any of the theology in that, so I won't bother to "go deep". I don't believe in karma or reincarnation - I do "believe" my actions are rewarded and punished internally through hormones/guilt.

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    I do nice things - because I am selfish. When I do something nice, I get a happy hormone rush. Payback. When I do something nice, it is just for me.
    .
    isn't this very similar to what is said in the OP's thread?
    Every act we do, we do to ourselves.........

    You say you do 'nice' things because you get something 'nice' back in return.

    Seems the same to me...


    I believe we should do 'nice' things to others, purely because it can make a difference in peoples lives.......even if it is just a smile, not because we benefit in some way from the act.

    That is Service to Self, and that, unfortunately, is one of the problems we face in the society of the world today.

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    Whoa...I also just love that! Sums up everything I believe. Need to sit down and ponder some more now

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    Interesting..

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    How very interesting!

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    I love it too- i will be back when kids are sleeping!

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    Wow, i'm so glad I read that...thank you

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    Nov 2006
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    Very cool, thanks for posting! Love it!

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    Dec 2007
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    Yes, very brain in the vat!
    It does resonate somewhat with me though.

    I did have a rather large giggle at this: " Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”

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