thread: UREGENT question regarding natural colour 160b (Annatto)

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  1. #1
    Life Subscriber

    Jul 2006
    Brisbane
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    I don't follow it strictly, but I do avoid sugar and the listed preservatives for the most part. DH thought I was being pedantic at first, but he has now seen the resulting change in behaviour often enough to know when DS1 particularly has had sugar or a preservative he reacts to. When I told DS1's paed recently that I avoid them she said straight away that he'd be very sensitive to those things - DH was there to hear that too, but he had already been convinced by then.

  2. #2
    Matryoshka Guest

    I've been reading the book and am more than convinced. I am almost certain that my long term treatment resistant PND is not so much PND as food intolerance!! So much of my own childhood behaviour rings true in the personal testaments. I am also seeing some of the same things in my 3 year old whom i thought was just having a long term terrrible two phase.

    As i'm reading the book and any spare minute i have i plan to research this and start going failsafe. Need to convincve DH and find a supportive dietician. Will try it on myself before the children as they are just too fussy at the moment. I think when DH sees a change in me, he will want to do it for the boys. I plan to start a blog on this just because i have so much going on in my head i need to let it out somewhere, and i think my DH is getting sick of hearing the words additives, behaviour, feeling bad/sick etc.

    I particularly think i have an intolerance to the salycilates as all the foods on the avoid list are the ones i love and crave, and all the ones on the OK list are ones i hate and never eat!

    Anyway ta for the advice xxx

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    Registered User

    Jan 2005
    Down by the ocean
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    I'm trying to figure out exactly what triggers responses in myself. I don't and haven't had behavioral issues but get asthma and migranes. I know tomato sauce is a problem but it could either be additives such as sulfor dioxide or salycilates

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    Registered User

    Jul 2006
    Melbourne
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    Sounds like a good plan Tan blogging it sounds good too. Please keep us posted with how you go, or send me a link to your blog......would love to read it!

    As for the boys, particularly with DS1, just have a little look at his behaviour and when he has eaten certain things. Some reactions are really easy to pick, others are much more difficult because they build up over time. But if you spot an easy one, then just try removing that one factor from his diet - you could be amazed at how just one little thing can cause huge problems! Like I said, I haven't actually done the failsafe plan, but I have over time picked up different problems, one by one. Our biggest, biggest factors come from being soy and dairy intolerant, and I've known that for most of this year. But although we saw massive improvements after removing those things, I started to notice another, different problem - the salicylate sensitivity. It is actually quite a different reaction for my DS, but it can be hard to spot because at only just 2 years, they can't tell you a great deal. But the intolerances lead to sleep and behavioural difficulties (big time) which leads to screaming. And the salicylates lead to terrible stomach cramps - which also leads to screaming . But we can tell the difference now, thank goodness.

    I know that all seems like a big ramble but I know that reading Astrid and Christy's stories really helped me in searching for what was upsetting my DS. Alot of it was stuff that I had never heard of, and probably wouldn't have if not for BB.

    Good luck, I hope you see great success from changing your eating!

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    Jul 2006
    Melbourne
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    Just for those looking at the salicylate thing - I am by no means an expert, and talking to our naturopath really helped me to understand it a little better. Salicylates are in almost everything! They are almost impossible to avoid altogether. Most people find that they react only to those foods that are categorised as being very high, or high, in salicylates. So that can be a good starting point, just eliminating those foods.

    And I do think that it is so individual. DS reacts worse to some things in the very high group than others. Raw tomato is by far his very biggest trigger. Strawberries and grapes, along with all dried fruit are way up there too. But cooked tomato isn't as bad. I haven't actually looked into this enough to know why that might be.

    Again, rambling, but HTHs

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    Registered User

    Jan 2005
    Down by the ocean
    6,110

    Yep Janie I get that

  7. #7
    Matryoshka Guest

    Thanks Janie, that did help!

    I just wanted to update:

    I found taking on the salicylates challenge too much at this point as i'm currently coming off my PND medication. However, the irony of that is that what is supposed to be a stressful uncomfortable time (as anyone who's come off these types of meds will understand) has not been! I have hardly even noticed the reduction in my medication and i am sure it is due to the food changes i have made which are:

    Avoiding almost all the food chemicals listed in the book (colours, preservatives, antioxidents etc), especially Annatto which i've decided is evil. I particularly noticed it in the yoghurt i buy my boys, and DS1 gets hypo and irate afterwards. I am so glad i linked this. For myself i have almost completely cut out dairy. I only have about 200ml either in coffee or cereal, and for me thats been the hugest change... i am no longer bloated, bowel habits have changed dramatically, and when on one day i did have several serves of dairy i found myself moody and with toilet urgency! So i suspect i might be intolerant to anything more than tiny amounts. I have also cut out sweets & snacky foods instead eating almonds or fruit.

    So this has been a great experience. I'm not sure when i'll get the energy to take on the salicylate challenge, but for now the benefits have been really good so i'll be sticking with it.

    Thanks again for all the support & info.