Thanks Jennifer!! xxxx
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I think it's only an issue if you know of a family history with allergies to those particular things. No allergies in our family to egg and nuts and DD had no reactions, but I'm allergic/intolerant of plenty of topical things, so I took it slowly on a lot of introduced foods. Don't know why I bothered though, I ate peanut butter sandwiches to the exclusion of just about everything else during my pg and a bit afterwards and if she'd have been allergic we'd have noticed much earlier while she was being bf.
Next time I'll watch when I introduce, but I won't withhold anything except honey.
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Thanks Jennifer!! xxxx
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Oh thanks everyone, its good that our journey both times is helping, you know what they say, you learn from your mistakes
We do pretty much the same with allergy prone foods, just introduce them a bit later and keep an eye on them to notice any changes. Its usually associated with family history but there can be some randoms like my cousins son, who is allergic to egg and they don't know anyone in the family that is, poor buggers face swells up.
With egg its the same as when you are pregnant, you just need to make sure it is cooked all the way through. Scrambled egg is one of DD2's favourites now and I even managed a break through with DD1 the other night, she shared in some of my lunch and didn't even care that there was ham and chives in it, scoffed the lotDD2 has had small amount of penut butter, just on the crust of my toast and no reaction, but she won't eat it properly, seems to prefer vegemite. I do make sure I remove large pieces of nuts from things, like out of the curried sausages last night, this is because they can't chew them properly and it can be a chocking hazard. Honey I definitely wont give till after 1.
Turtle - we used to do that with DD1 just for amusement, she would pull funky faces but go back for more. I think as long as its not a regular thing it should be okay. Good for learning sour tastes too.
I was a little bit cautious of giving DD2 our dinner last night as it was curried sausages and vegies, as the sauce was a little bit spicy. So what I did was only coat the sausage and vegies in a teeny amount of sauce. She absolutely hoovered it, I think it did get a bit spicy at one stage cause she kept rubbing her face, but the whole time attempting to pick up more and shovel it. She kept going for her water bottle to. Today there was no change in her stool or behaviour so I am guessing the spicy food didn't harm her.
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When we were introducing foods where there's a higher risk of allergy (egg, peanuts etc) I just made sure that i didn't offer any other new foods around that time so that I could see if there was a reaction.
Everything allergy-wise was fine until recently, when DD had satay which would have been her 4 or 5th time having peanuts - she had what I'm assuming is a reaction to the peanuts. We're having her tested to make sure, but not until February. Thought I'd just mention it because I wasn't aware that there could be no reaction the first few times and then a reaction - luckily a few of the girls on BB put me straight! I've since found out that DH's cousin's son has a peanut allergy, so maybe I should've been more cautious, but I didn't know that at the time (and even if i did I think I likely would've assumed it was indirect enough to give it a go anyway).
Scrambled egg is an absolute favourite in our house too so I'm glad that seems to be ok.
I'm going to make her some scrambled egg for breakie tomorrow then.
We're still not interested in food that much. This morning I made her a banana sandwich and it got squished up and thrown over the high chair. It seems to be more of a game at the moment. Although, she vacuums up sticks of cucumber and yells at me when I'm chopping it up! So funny!
There I go again, broken record.
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We find DD not too fussed on scrambled or fried egg, she'll try it, but doesn't eat too much of it. Give her a sliced up boiled egg and she loves it. The only time I can be guarenteed she'll eat all a sandwich or piece of toast is if it has peanut butter on it, probably because she was so used to it in utero! We also find she loves any meat out of the slow cooker, especially chicken. I think it's easy for her to chew up, and she sits there going 'Mmmm Mmmm Mmmmm' as she eats it all.
MummaSue we can go a week with just playing with her food, and then she'll devour everything in sight for 2 days straight. I find it hard to relax about it too. Lately it's more fun to watch it fall as she lets it go over the side, or to splat it flat (we say she loves to kill all her food) with her hand over and over again on the high chair tray.
Today in a cafe, an elderly woman came up and demanded to know how old DD was. I said 8 months, and she told me she was far too young to be eating a biscuit (milk arrowroot) and she would choke and die. She almost went to take the biscuit off her when I rather sternly said 'she is fine, you sit back and watch her eat it'. Thankfully DD didn't gag while she finished it, and she apologised but still mumbled that she was too young. It was quite heated for a minute there!
Goodness HB, why do people feel the need to interfere????? AARRGGHH! Good on you for telling her off! x
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I'm struggling abit at the moment. with food in general (and sleep but that's another story), it's not specifically a BLS thing. Bub gags on most things and gets very very little of anything in. I also thought she was drinking water from a cup but have noticed that she doesn't actually drink much mostly it just dribbles out again. She does't like gagging and after this has happened she won't try anymore food, even favs.
i thought by 8 months she would be getting some food in.
she is abit of a lightweight, still gaining weight but i don't want this to slow too much. She also breastfeeds alot over night- is she hungry or is it for comfort? why doesn't (can't) she sleep through? she still BFs as often as a newborn
Kste, do we have the same baby?????
I have no advice, I'm just really taking in what everyone else here is saying and some ladies at my ABA support group are also telling me to stick with it. DDs weight gains have slowed, I haven't had her officially weighed but am doing it myself every 2-3 weeks at our local pharmacy. I am trying to just see the cognitive gains she is making and all the new things she is doing.
DD also feeds as often as she did when she was newborn and is also waking loads in the night (some nights more than others but still......). I guess (I hope) it will all just fall into place soon hey?
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Oh my HB, I don't know what I would have done if I were you, probably would have used a few choice words in telling her to mind her own business. I'm not known for holding my tongueI had a few people at a kids bday party couple of week ago starring me down because I gave DD2 a salad and ham wrap, I knew what they were thinking, but I bit my tongue cause it was my friends family.
Cause she is BF water intake isn't essential, more of a learning thing. I think if she were thirsty she might take more, maybe a different cup even a straw? How often is she feeding? A lot of 8 month olds are still having night feeds, DD2 is 10 months and still has 7pm, 11pm, 4am, 7am, 11am, 3pm. You might find as she gets more active her weight gain will slow, its normal for it to as they are burning more energy, another reason why night feeds are still normal. Their weight gain also does start to taper off as they get older too. My DD was a lightweight and still is, the other kids at daycare tower over her and she still wears size 1, sometimes 2 pants. DD2 was a big girl born, 9lb, 56cm, on 97th percentile, she has slowly dropped percentiles to just under 50th and is lucky to put on 200g a month but she is developing well, is happy and wets and fills plenty of nappies, I prefer to just go by that, I don't think our children were ever genetically prone to be big kids, neither of us are. The month she started crawling and using the walker she lost 200gm.
I think you just have to use your instincts to choose whether she needs them or is just using them for comfort, I have dropped a couple of feeds by force cause I figured she didn't really need them as they only lasted a couple of minutes. It does get easier, as long as you work on it if it needs it.
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Has anyone come up against the comment and argument that they won't learn to use a knife and fork properly if you let them use their hands, and will prefer to keep using their hands. I am prepared for the usual comments, but didn't anticipate this one, so I didn't have a fast enough rebuttal.
It was a SIL that said it, and she is against the whole BLS thing, in fact has gone as far as mentioning she thinks its a form of abuse because how could their digestive system possible handle it, and its dangerous, blah blah blah. I really don't like her anyway and I basically ignore majority of her snide comments or use facts to put her straight, but she got me off guard this time. And she doesn't even have kids herself.
To me its a stupid theory, of course they will learn. Because my child poops in nappies, does that mean they will always poop in their pants, arghhhh.
I think it's to do with their fine motor skills. *I think* By getting used to using their hands, fingers etc - the fork and knife will come with time.
AARRGGGHHH, how annoying, it's a good question!
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I've never heard that one before, but I can imagine how frustrating it must've been.
FWIW DD usually prefers to use a spoon/fork and it's been that way since she was around 11 months as I remember it. There's still some foods that she'll use her hands for, but usually not. She's much much more proficient with utensils that her purée fed peers
I gave her cubes of mango for breakfast this morning, carried on with what I was doing and she just sat there. Then she said spoon and I realised she wasn't going to eat it til I gave her a fork (she's still working on what they're called!).
I reckon with your SIL your best bet is to just thank her for her opinion then sit back and let time show her she's wrong.
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studymum - arrrrggghhhh how frustrating!!! I have read that in time once the baby learns to eat by copying our chewing and food patterns then they will naturally also want to use a knife and fork as we do as well. Same thing with salt and pepper, if the baby sees us do this every night then the baby will, in time want to put salt and pepper on their food too. I think your comparison to the nappy thing is spot on.
My DD reaches out for my fork or spoon at some mealtimes and if I pass it over she jams it straight into her mouth. It's quite surprising how good she is with her aim. I am not that keen on her putting my fork in her mouth because of the sharp prongs so I just went yesterday and bought a baby plastic fork and spoon. I haven't given it to her and don't plan to unless she shows interest in mine. I guess my point is that I think BLS is all about baby led learning so the baby will learn to use a fork and spoon in his or her own time?
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My 4yo that I pureed for as a baby eats with his fingers all the time - so annoying. He knows perfectly well how to use his fork & spoon, is getting there with his knife, but halfway through the meal he'll abandon cutlery and use his fingers. My BLS 1yo will attempt to eat his yoghurt with a spoon, then stick his fingers in and he wants a fork (those plastic ones) to go with his dinner. Doesn't use it for the most part, but I'm hoping that the earlier he starts using cutlery, the less likely he'll turn out like his spoon fed brother.
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I think they must have been twins at some point! If you weren't on BB, my post count would be double cos so often we are dealing with similar things but you post first.
I went to see my MCHS nurse who is one of the good ones, and i'm feeling better. I think i was letting other people's questioning get to me. She is her own little gorgeous self, and she will do things her own way. If she needs me more at the moment, that's ok by me. Other people don't have to do it so shouldn't worry. If they were really concerned for me, then they could ask how they could help support me.
STrawberries are pretty exciting this week, and mango too. Prefering to have DD just in a nappy cos the strawberries stain clothes. It was pretty funny this morning when her slice of mango had slid down on to her leg and she was trying to keep hold of it but it was just too slippery!
Hehe, we had strawberry for the first time yesterday - it was hilarious!! And we have mango most days too just now which she seems to think makes good hair gel! I have some wicked funny photos on facebook of her eating mango.
I'm glad you're feeling better about it Kate, you're right - she just needs you more at the moment and who better than to attend to what she needs than us?
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Argh well I've just been sick recently so my mum came over to 'help.'
Her help comes in the form of hundreds of cans/jars/packets of mushy baby food, rice cereal, big tins of toddler milk formula... garrr DD is almost 1, and she wants to feed her rice cereal??
My mum just really doesn't understand breastfeeding, BLS and avoiding processed food..
She said I am starving DD.
In other news, I swear DD is fussy. How did this happen? She seems to only want to eat pasta and roast chicken.
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