it was frozen and taken out that morning, so by the time it got to mum it was still pretty cold. I would have prefered her to microwave it then feed him a full jar of crap.
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it was frozen and taken out that morning, so by the time it got to mum it was still pretty cold. I would have prefered her to microwave it then feed him a full jar of crap.
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Poor customer service to not give your mum hot water! Its not like its hard for them. Another thought is for her to take a thermos of boiling water. I understand you not wanting to feed him a jar of food but I'd hate to see your hard work expressing go to waste!
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health and safety risk apparently. Noone in the shopping complex would!
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I work in hospitality and I do understand to a certain extent the problems with heating bottles for people so maybe if I explain where I come from it may help make sense.
Although I do believe it is not too hard just use your noggin and help and I certainly would, sometimes it is a real problem. If the person you have asked to heat a bottle has never had a baby or looked after one (as was the case when I was younger) there can be disastrous consequences. It is just too easy to over heat a bottle. This can mean having to then wait for the bottle to cool with a screaming bub or worse, being unaware that the milk is over heated and scalding a babies mouth. This is the big concern with microwaves, they 'spot' heat and if the bottle is not shaken to mix, the sample you test could be cold with potential hot spots throughout the bottle. Secondly, yes, the microwave can ruin the goodies within the ebm. Other heating methods have problems also when in the hands of an inexperienced person.
So the logical thing is to supply some hot water and let mum/carer do the work. I understand if there are health and safety issues with supplying the hot liquid, perhaps in that shopping center there is a rule not allowing it. There may have been a circumstance where someone supplied a cup of hot water and it ended up burning someone. Although it is no different in some ways than supplying a cup of black tea... there may be a different way the law approaches this situation. Unfortunately it smacks of an overly litigious society.
As I said, I am not really agreeing with the policy, common sense should rule and I would certainly do my best to help out a mum/carer in that situation, but I do understand what may be going on there.
I would second the suggestion of taking some hot water in a thermos to warm up the precious EBM. OR what about simply warm water? Surely warm water could heat up a bottle sufficiently without heading into the *dangerous* territory.
I am sorry your poor Ashton suffered from missing out on his milk missymoo84, it is such a shame that something that should have been really simple, is such an issue and you and Ashton have to bear the consequences in such an unpleasant manner. (And now be even more super prepared in the future!!!)
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It's all good Jackrose. I wasn't upset that the centre wouldn't give hot water, I understand that. There is a parents room there with a microwave which is why I didn't understand why mum didn't heat it, Yes it would loose some of its goodness but surely it's better than nothing!
It's ok cos she knows nowI think I was annoyed too because I dropped him at the house thinking they were going to be staying there, and then I hear they went to the shopping mall for no reason really. I was hoping she would have kept him home, gave him his bottle and put him to bed like he usually has.
Oh well, next time she knows now.
Solids.... well Ashton didn't have any yesterday and he slept right through last night... weird!
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the whole thing seems quite weird to me, as I've asked for, and received mugs of hot water without an issue... but so saying, i don't think I necessarily specified what it was for... just asked for the water and they handed it over. Mebbe they thought I was some kinda health nut drinking hot water har har! The biggest nuisance is that some places don't have mugs that are big enough to easily put my bottle in. The other thing I often do is heat the EBM before I go if I know he's going to have it soon - he doesn't mind it room temp if it's cooled a little.
Anyways, 'nuff said, but i couldn't resist joining in the convo!
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I've had the same thing at a shopping centre before too. I asked for a cup of hot water and they wouldn't give it to me because it is a health and saftey issue and I was told to use a microwave in the parents room or the hot water tap in there.
I thought this was extremely odd since the place I was at could serve me with a hot cup of tea or coffee! I was tempted just to buy a cup of tea to put it in!!
And I know about the microwave not heating evenly and destroying the goodies in EBM. Not to mention the issues of the chemicals in the plastic!! But the 'hot' water tap in the parents room isn't actually hot. It is warm... again for the health and safety reasons. Certainly not hot enough to warm a bottle of EBM, let alone one that has only just defrosted.
So, damned if you do, damned if you don't. But really sorry to hear that poor Ashton had an overfull tum MissyMoo. Poor little guy!
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Ahhh, I did misinterpret your post (the inevitable issues of the written word
) so thanks for understanding me and explaining.
I would certainly be as annoyed as you at the situation. It's a pity we can duplicate ourselves for looking after our young ones *sigh*. At least we know what we should/would do.
and in response to your recent question...
...all the time! When we first started it was stop and go for a month or two, with more stop than go. Then, all of a sudden it became much more go. I think you are spot on with the answer you gave yourself, the old 'food is for fun till they are one' is the mantra that was always there for us too.has anyone started their bub on solids then stopped?
And as the others have mentioned, being a little sick can have an effect also. Even at 15 months, DD went without much food for a few days last week when she was sick. (Which then led to me and DH off our food for a few days). All back to normal now though!!
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Just posting our latest food favourite... lasagne!!
He's had it a couple of times now and each time he keeps shovelling it down, long after he would have stopped with any other meals! He has to take mini breaks to rest in between feeding frenzies!!!
Oh and another thing he's loving doing atm too is sucking on ice. I put him in his high-chair and put a couple of cubes on his tray and he chases them all over the place trying to catch one. He usually does which is quite amazing and really does prove how good BLS is for manual dexterity and fine motor skills. I think he loves the challenge.
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Hi all, another jumping on the bandwagon.
I had never heard of BLS until I stumbled on this thread today. We do about 50% that anyway but will be doing as much as possible as of dinner tonight.
Makes sense to me
Just one question, what do you do when you are out & they are in a pram to eat?
I dont really feel like washing the pram everytime we have to eat when we are out
Sorry if its already been asked, Im reading back over the pages & am only up to page 12
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take them out and use a high chair. There is usually one where we eat. If there isn't I sit ash on a chair next to me, or on my lap and hold him so he doesn't jump lol
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I have a question about salt. I have a bunch of jars left over from pre-BLS days and occasionally I break them out (just to reinforce my BLS choice!!!). Anyhow, the age appropriate ones....they really don't taste very nice. There is seriously NO SALT in them. I know my MCHN said that babies taste buds are much more sensitive than ours, so they don't need to salt, and giving them salt can badly affect their developing taste buds. And I know their kidneys cant handle too much salt.
But with BLS, I tend to give Peter whatever we are eating, although not anything blatently salty, like pretzels or soy sauce. But a lot of things we cook already have a bit of salt in them- pasta sauce, dips, stir fry sauce, even bread and butter. What is everyone's opinion on the salt issue? I am just alarmed by how different in taste the jarred baby foods are against the "normal" foods I give Peter.
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With salt, I try and restrict it as much as possible. I've started making my own bread which has far less salt and atm Ashlyn really only has fruit and veg. I make sure a read labels and pick things with the least amount of salt. Not sure what else to do.
With Easter, Ashlyn wont be getting any chocolate this year. I've got Danielle a Dora egg with torch, though I'm sure she'll have more fun with the torch because she's not that into chocolate (unlike her mummy, lol!). I don't generally restrict food, I like to teach moderation. I didn't do BLW with Danielle, but I did make sure she had a wide range of food and we teach her to eat until she is full and that she doesn't have to finish her plate. She actually eats very well now and is just as likely to pick up an apple as she is a biscuit.
When did you start giving your LO meat/chicken and how did you prepare it?
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