thanks kazbah. i dont have a baby at the moment, i was just thinking back to when my two were little and comparing them to friends babies. (i know that is something i shouldnt do)!! but it is just so easy for some people. and as crazy as this may sound, and i feel guilty for even thinking it but i will put it out there.. i reckon i would have enjoyed my babies more and had more of a nice experience and attitude if they were good sleepers.