Ya i still wouldnt let them win, they might want out but if I want them in there to go shopping etc, they need to know that I am the parent and they need to sit there till I am ready to go onto something else.

They could scream the house down for all I am worried about but, I dont give in, probably had this happen a couple times and well they learnt, if i scream I wont get let out so I am going to sit here until its time to move on.

I wont allow either of my children to determine what they will be doing at their age, as if i cant control a 2 year old.. how will I manage controlling a 13 year old if they don't know I am the parent that is who they listen to.