wow big thanks and to everyone! I'm so greatful for the advice and all the suggestions..i will be putting them to good use and trying out a few things to see what works for Ds. It's so good to hear a variety of suggestions..a lot of things i hadn't even considered and now i feel a bit more confident armed with information...thanks Kazbah- it didn't even occure to me that he might be dropping a sleep and now that i think of it i think that could possibly be part of the problem...somebody else suggested teething (so sorry can't remember who) so i had a look in ds mouth and low and behold i think i can see teeth! They haven't errupted yet but i can definitely see the outline ot the tooth through the gum if that makes sense...silly me, i just assumed that because ds's big brother teethed at 8months that we had a while to go yet but i guess every kids is different right?

Thanks to everyone who suggested growbags/sleeping bags and think they're a great idea..unfortunately i couldn't find any where i live...can you believe it i went the big w, target and woolies and the only thing i could find was a big heavy winter sleeping bag in a size 2! I would've thought they'd have them since they're pretty popular..oh well i'll have a look on ebay.

I've noticed that if i keep Ds awake for as long as i possibly can..i mean to the point where he's really cranky and tired then he goes down fairly well...its strange because most people say to put them into bed as soon as you see tired signs but Tobias seems to be the opposite..haha trust me to have a backwards bub!
I saw the MCHN today and she was pretty much no help at all... i told her everything i've tried and she just sort of glossed over the topic and didn't offer any real advice grrrr oh well thankfully it looks like we've sold the house so we'll be in a new town in 6weeks and i can hopefully find a more helpful MCHN.
Anywho i just wanted to say thank you thank you thank you!
You're all such lovely people and have helped me out so much, i don't know where i'd be without the support BB provides
I'm sure i'll be back with another post when it all gets to much again but for the moment i have lots of suggestions to keep me busy!