DS goes to bed by 8.30 usually, and that's with waking up around 7-8 am and a 1.5 hour nap during the day. If he skips the day sleep, he goes down around 7 - 7.30 but is awake around 7 am. I do prefer him to have the day sleep as w/o it he is a terror by 5 pm. He's 2 yo. Plus I like the sleep in