thanks for the replies. luckily i have a long while to think it over. i am aiming to have my liscence by then, but we will still only have one car. when i do go out it is generally an all day thing (like 9-5). decisions, decisions... the only thing really preventing me from buy the phil and ted's e3 is the cost - it is more money then i spent on the other two prams combined. then again, that and a toddler car seat for jelly will be the only consts this time around as we already have everything else. maybe i could ask my mum and sisters to help put in a little for that, rather then buying other things we don't need?