Im happy to concede if I miss a point, I focus on MMR because even if the anti-vax camp has dropped him long ago, Wakefield was the only hard research showing a link. The same way the media would have picked it up as hard 'evidence' as opposed to the poor attempt at a news report you posted earlier in the thread.

I do sing the praises of vaccinations, the WHO estimates that 2.5 million lives are saved by vaccinations (and endless human misery avoided) ever year, though I know your going to say that the WHO are corrupt bureaucrats and the figures are nonsense.

I can say Herd Immunity. I suppose you think that vaccinations are done by a few dodgy operators in back sheds??? I couldn't find the exact figure but by looking on the WHO website world vaccination figures are more than 80%, thats atleast 4.8 billion people. Very careful records are recorded in every country and by several international organisations about immunisation rates and disease rates (even autism rates!). Thousands of pages of complex stats are published every year coming from all over the globe, the information is all there, on the internet for you to see and analyse yourself. Im not going to do the work for you, herd immunity is the cornerstone of this data and thousands of pages of analysis of third world vaccine takeup bears it out time and time again.


After all this do you really think that some person with 5 postgrad degrees in immunology and stats and a supercomputer is suddenly going to say "you know, this whole vaccine thing is actually not working out, we were wrong after all".

If you think that its all doctored by big pharma to fund their coffers while the world is poisoned by their legacy, really, then it might be time to wear a a foil hat and start preaching the end of the earth!