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  1. #1

    Jun 2010
    District Twelve
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    The article didn't provide both sides, but is one sided and biased.
    That's the Feral Scum for you....errrrr...I mean, the Herald Sun...

  2. #2
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Feb 2009
    Kalgoorlie, WA
    729

    Yeah, what N2L said - it's the Herald Sun!! They have never published anything impartially.

    So these 'absolutely no clusting of outbreaks' - how does that reconcile with polio rates in third world countries compared to polio rates in Australia?

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    Aug 2010
    In a library somewhere...
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    Yeah, what N2L said - it's the Herald Sun!! They have never published anything impartially.

    So these 'absolutely no clusting of outbreaks' - how does that reconcile with polio rates in third world countries compared to polio rates in Australia?
    I said, "No clustering of outbreaks amongst the unvaccinated". This doesn't mean there isn't disease clusters (or areas/times where it is more prevalent) within general populations but that there isn't a higher ratio of infection amongst the unvaccinated as compared to the vaccinated within those populations. So say there was an outbreak in a population that had a 90% vaccination rate, logically you would think that a higher proportion of the 10% (i.e 70% of that 10%) of unvaccinated would catch the disease and less of the 90% (i.e. 30% of that 90%) would catch it, but this isn't the case. Clusters are actually occurring in the vaccinated not the unvaccinated... that should be concerning, but instead of investigating it, we get the "vaccines will mean you just get a milder case" which isn't always true either. A-typical measles (which only occurs in the vaccinated) is far more deadly than the original because instead of the pustules coming out on the skin, they occur on internal organs, and because it's not visible the same there can be a huge delay in receiving treatment.

    Polio rates in third world countries are quite easy to reconcile, seeing they have a lack of resources/hygiene and nutritional issues (water/food/sanitation) and still, in general, use the OPV live polio vaccine. The reason IPV is used in Western countries is because we know that the OPV can actually give people polio.

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    Dec 2008
    Melbourne, VIC
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    RIP little bubba. So so sad