Uh oh! I think we 'broke' our baby...

[Miss E]

Well not quite, but right now it feels a bit like that...

DS has been a great sleeper for a long time now. When he was ready for bed he'd point to his cot, we'd pop him and he'd go to sleep by himself and sleep through.

We went to the US to visit family for a month over Christmas. While we were away we sat with DS while he went to sleep or rocked him to sleep because he was in a strange places and we were also sharing a room with him.

Now that we're home, he refuses to go to sleep by himself. He's fine if one of us sits in the room with him, but the second we leave he starts screaming. Now I wouldn't mind keeping this up, but each nap and night it is taking longer and longer for him to go to sleep. ATM it's about an hour and a half of him tossing and turning in his cot and mucking about. And then he wakes 3 or 4 times during the night and we have to go through the whole thing over again.

Because he's tossing and turning I can't help but wonder if he's uncomfortable. I've toyed with the idea of giving him a pillow (but he's only 18 months and still in the cot) and wondered if I need to get him bigger sleeping bags (his are meant to be ok till 2 years and he is small for his age). I've also wondered if it's time to take the side off of his cot, but am saving this as a last resort...

It's pretty clear that he's feeling a bit insecure at the moment, after all we went away and turned everything he's ever known upside down, so I'm ok with taking the time to work with him to make him feel safe and secure in his own room. But now I can't help but wonder if there are other things at play. After all, he's a month older and I feel like his sleep needs have changed, I'm struggling to know when is the right time to put him down... Or is it that to feel safe he needs the security of being able to get in and out of his bed... Or could it be time for a pillow and blankets?

What do you think? Sorry I'm a little lost and looking for ideas and advice or just some details of any sleep changes you had at this stage. TIA

ETA Oh yeah just wanted to add that at CC the other day he napped for 2 hours! The little bugger won't nap for more than 40 mins at home right now and that's after a good hour or more of trying to get him to sleep!

[sloane]

well, as you know i am certainly no expert on how to have a good sleeper but...we gave corey a pillow a couple of months ago because he kept stealing ours & always put his head on one if he was on our bed, itms? we got a cot pillow that said from 12 months & he likes it. he moves it around to where he wants it & it seems to help as another sleep cue - we can say 'put your head on your pillow, time for sleep' and he knows what we mean.

i've also noticed some big changes in the last couple of weeks with his attitude towards sleep - he's on a mattress on the floor & now he doesn't cry for us when he wakes up but he'll either call out 'mum' or he'll get up & come looking for us. i have to say that it's given me the biggest fright to wake up to this little person standing by the bed yelling 'MUM' but apart from that, i feel like he's pretty happy with the small increase in freedom.

we're still using a sleeping bag but he's in one for up to 36months & he really doesn't re-settle as well without it - but blankets could be worth a try?

what about his bedtime? do you think maybe a slightly later (or earlier) bedtime could work?

[Miss E]

Thanks hun, where did you get the pillow from? I looked in a few places yesterday and couldn't find any cot pillows. Maybe I should take the side off the cot and see how he goes... We're a little bit worried about him getting in and out, especially because we have lots of stairs, but then I do still have the AngelCare monitor on, so we'd know right away when he got up!

Not too sure about the whole bedtime thing, it feels like there is never a right time iykwim? His tired signs used to be so obvious and when I'd put him down he'd be asleep within 10 mins. Now he can be in bed, yawning and rubbing his eyes and still not go to sleep. Because it's taking so long to get him to sleep his nap is getting later and later which has meant that bedtime is too... He's always had a tired period at around 9.30am so I'm wondering if giving him a nap earlier in the day might help... Ah who knows, it doesn't matter how long you do this parenting stuff, there's always a new challenge that leaves you feeling like a complete novice

[sloane]

we got it from baby bunting - it's a nice flat one. there's one not too far from you, isn't there?

we still get the morning tired period as well - down to one nap but sometimes he down for it by 9.30. can make for a long afternoon

[Rowellen]

I find with my DS, if he hasn't been outside to play, he takes longer to go to sleep. He's such a high energy boy too so it's difficult to tell his tired signs. We mostly go by time. If he's been outside running around or at the park, he's asleep within minutes of going into his cot. If he's been sitting around watching TV or in the trolley while I'm shopping, he takes a lot longer, often close to an hour.

My DS loves having a pillow so it could be time for that. We've recently taken the side off his cot so he can climb in himself (we have a safety rail and there is a small gap he can climb through at the foot of the cot). He loves it and will climb in happily. My DS is a little older than yours though.

Is he screaming in distress or just having a little sook? Since he was in the same room as you on your trip, he's probably used to having you there so maybe a slow introduction to being alone again will help. Try leaving the room when he's almost asleep and gradually make it earlier. I found with my DS, he actually went to sleep quicker when we started leaving the room. Sometimes he'd cry out and I'd go back in and let him know I was nearby and he'd lie down again. If we stayed in there, he'd lie there watching us and wouldn't close his eyes. It was like a game for him.

Maybe the sleeping bag is restricting him? Have you tried PJ's?

Good luck.

ETA: We got DS's cot pillow from Ikea.

[Miss E]

Sloane, I was going to go to Baby Bunting, but thought i would try elsewhere, I think I'll be making a trip over tomorrow. I also think I'll try an early nap tomorrow, I've always tried to stretch him till around 11.30am, but maybe one early in the day will work better... fingers crossed anyways...

Thanks Rowellen, I'm definately going to give the pillow a try, then maybe try taking the side off the cot if I get really desperate. Our cot is an oval shape, so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't fall out cos when the side comes out there isn't that much space if that makes sense. After a few days of being back we did try to see what would happen if we just left him like you said. The minute he realised we were gone he'd start screaming. It's funny, cos he doesn't cry, he more yells iykwim? when I go in he doesn't have tears, he just lays right down as if to say 'Im ready to go to sleep' but if I leave again he's up and screaming and it will go on for hours with us going in and out. I feel awful saying it, but the day after we did that he lost his voice, made me feel like such a mean mummy!

[Rowellen]

You're not a mean mummy! Maybe he just needs you there for a while. Once his routine is re-established, it might get easier. As you said, you were gone for a month, completely changed everything he knew and he's grown up a lot in that time. It must be very frustrating for you, but I think, if you work with his needs, encourage him and keep reassuring him, he'll eventually learn that you are still there for him even if you're not in the room ITMS?

[Miss E]

You're not a mean mummy! Maybe he just needs you there for a while. Once his routine is re-established, it might get easier. As you said, you were gone for a month, completely changed everything he knew and he's grown up a lot in that time. It must be very frustrating for you, but I think, if you work with his needs, encourage him and keep reassuring him, he'll eventually learn that you are still there for him even if you're not in the room ITMS?

That's what I'm hoping, fingers crossed.

[Danielle_NZ]

If you take the side off his cot you could put a gate on his bedroom door so he couldn't get to the stairs. That way he'd also know bedtime means he has to stay in his room, preferably in his bed but if he's not ready for sleep he'd be able to play but still stay in his room.

[Miss E]

this is why BB is great - now we all feel 'normal' :

I chickened out tonight! I such a softie, might try tomorrow lol!

[sloane]

so did i! but i'm going to try not feeding overnight.

[MamaPan]

Just logged on to see how you went lol!!!!! Hope your nights were ok anyway....
Hmmm tonight is another night...

[Miss E]

We're so in sync Sarah! I got through the night with no feeds how'd you go?

MP we did a little better last night, only 1 hour to go to sleep! And he only woke up once, mind you he was up for three hours! Here's to a better night tonight.... I just put him down for an early nap today, here's hoping it makes bedtime a little more straightforward tonight....

[MamaPan]

let's hope so!!!! xxx