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LOL I dont think we have too many of those sorts of Obs here in Australia! Did you know we have a higher c/s than the US?! It doesn't stipulate what the complications were, and it may not even be related to VBAC - who knows. But I do know plenty more unneeded c/s are done compared to ones that were needed.
Tan you can have an epi still if you want but its a good incentive based on a wee 0.7% risk!
Kelly xx
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I think you need to write a book with all your knowledge woman - I would have benefitted from it for sure!
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Going for a VBAC here. My last birth was a long labour, she was almost out, we changed positions even attempted a ventouse extraction, but she had to be born by c-section. I do not feel bad or attacked by articles which highlight the risks of c-section births, the information needs to be known and I am pretty sure that the journalist is not thinking of deliberately hurting my feelings when they wrote it. I am thankful the information is getting out there. No one should be denied knowlege to save the feelings of someone else.
Too many ob's run on auto pilot, the ob at my last appt even said that too me. We need to speak up to tell them what we want and to no be afraid of reminding them, for most it will not hurt their feelings (her words). My last birth I did have the auto pilot ob who threw my notes in the corner and went on her merry way of assaulting and belittling me. It was her way only. Having experienced that is it has made me very aware of educating oneself and speaking up not matter how hard it is.
As for the uterine rupture, I heavily discussed this at my last appt. The ob has witnessed one in her time (she looks to be late 30's) and they managed to save the uterus due to monitoring (the bubs hb dropped dramatically). So she admits she is cautious with VBAC and insists on monitoring. She will allow an epidural (I do hope to avoid one though) as there is monitoring in place. I am willing to risk the small chance of uterine rupture for a VBAC as I really believe in the benefits of a natural birth. We are not planning on a large family, so this will most likely be the last time my uterus gets to do its job. If it ruptures I will deal with the possible consequences. There are risks with everything, it is up to us to weigh up the odds for our situation.
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Good for you Astrid for making a fantastic and wonderful decission for yourself and your baby. I hope your both your sakes that you get exactly the birth you deserve and crave. Im sure there are many c/s mum's out there that are cheering you on.
Have you got a doula for this birth so you get what you want and can chat to the ob..as I know Kelly is a wonderful Doula (have heard many wonderful things) and she acts for the mum to be...so when ob's run on auto pilot and when you cant 'think' due to being in the pains of labour, the doula can be your voice
Now have to ask also - as you are not aloud to be induced...whats your birth plan then if you do not go into natural labour?
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Oh Maz - thank you thank you thank you - I've been thinking this for ages and keep forgetting to write it down and remember to ask someone what to do..... I really need to start a list of questions to ask my doula and care givers I think.
Astrid - fingers crossed for us both that we won't need to cross this bridge when going for our VBAC's but better to be prepared than not.
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Not being argumentative but the point is, that provided that mum and bub are not in any risk and there are no pre-existing conditions to indicate otherwise, the risk of elective c/s to the baby and mother are much higher than if the mother has a vaginal birth. As you said, all women have a choice and need to be informed of exactly what the risks are, if they decide to go down this path, and articles like the one that Trish has posted does this. I had a c/s after 36 hours of a failed induction and my issue is with my induction occuring when it did (far too early) leading to a cascade of intervention that led to what essentially ended up being a c/s that may not have occured had we waited a few more days. I want to go into this labour fully informed, empowered and ready to know that EVERYTHING I have done and read leads to an outcome where I can say, righteo we did our best, and if that leads to a c/s (It had better notI know what your saying, but I guess what I'm trying to say is as long as baby and mum are not at risk, a person should not be made to feel like they are putting their child at some sort of immense danger or risk by choosing to have a c-section if that means it is in the best interest of the child. I) then so be it. OT sorry, but just wanted to point this out!
ETA - Well said BG, the other reasons for c/s too after you have had one is being "high risk" in the eyes of some ob's because of a previous c/s. My c/s was not for any other reason than "failure to progress" so there is no reason that this birth will end up the same way. At the hospital I was originally booked into I was classed as high risk and was told by the booking midwife that I would be asked to book into an elective c/s at every apoointment by the ob's.... but supported by the midwives for a vbac.... so I've switched hospitals to where I'm not classed as high risk and where I feel I can give it a good shot.
Last edited by Beach Mama; April 12th, 2008 at 09:15 PM.
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Thank you BG
Tanya, Astrid and BG, I hope that by reading threads and information like this that it does not serve to scare you, rather to inform you of what can happen. Of what you can achieve and what the options are. It doesn't always have to be so cut and dry.
Goodluck Tan and Astrid, I hope you both have beautiful births.
And BG, well, we all know that you will demand that beautiful birth hun, just as soon as you get that gorgeous baby growing
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Thanks Trish! I don't get scared, but sometimes I read so much I get overwhelmed and doubt myself, but then I think of all the people I know who have vbac'd
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No pun intended, yeah ???
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No doula, but a student midwife, there are no doulas down here. There is a private midwife I can call, so I might see what she offers. The ob clinic is very aware of my wishes, all of them have been told what I went through last time and what I want this time. Initially I was feeling very overlooked, but a quick phone call to complain got all that sorted, admittedly with tears, but that couldn't be helped. It is written on the top of my file and highlighted "All intervention is to be discussed"
No induction allowed, but I have pushed them out from want to book a c-section at 41 weeks, to lets wait and see how things are at 41 weeks. The wont allow me to go past 42 and I am ok with that. They understand I want the chance to get things going naturally (acupuncture etc).
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Astrid, I think Barb has been a birth support person before - have you spoken to her about it?
Kelly xx
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Yes I have. It is tempting, but it is a bit delicate due to her working at the hospital and she will be looking after DD for me. She is the one advising me to call the private midwife but as everyone knows it is a delicate game getting hubbies to understand the need for additional support. Maybe I should leave him at home to babysit and take Barb to the hospital with me instead?
Matie - if you live near the shepparton area Tanya from here is becoming a doula, PM her if your close. She is a fab chickie
Hey now please can someone lighten me...these c/s'ing obs....are most of them males????
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I find it quite interesting to read others peoples views about their c-sections.it makes me very happy that with Julia's birth my OB (female)and the midwifes followed my birthplan to my every wish, unfortunately as I said before my baby was stuck and at risk so ended up in c-section. She is happy for me to have a VBAC all for it.
Trish you didnt upset me mate
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