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    Edited because I had a total brain fart
    Last edited by AnyDream; January 18th, 2010 at 09:48 PM.

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    MD - the prostaglandin gel is different - what i have just googled (randomly - not saying its' THE drug we use in AU) - it says

    PREPIDIL Gel contains dinoprostone as the naturally occurring form of prostaglandin E2
    ETA - i believe Au hospitals tend to use prostin - same thing though
    Last edited by briggsy's girl; January 18th, 2010 at 09:32 PM.

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    Thanks BG I should know having had The Whole Shebang first time round. Late night brain fart.

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    no probs MD - i have those regularly!

    i'm like you entreat - i'd rather an animal byproduct than a human one in most cases - prostaglandins included!

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    lol I wasn't even thinking in terms of disease yet, I was just GROSSED OUT!

    I only found the page after google searching on castor oil, was just going through and reading search result one by one.

    Why do you prefer to have animal disease risk than human disease risk? I worded that weirdly I know....

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    I think they mean there's just less chance of desease in pigs than in humans, or that the desease isn't as bad. IYKWIM...

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    I think that insulin used by diabetics was for a long time based on pig products (is now fully synthetic I think), and I think also heart valves have also been used from pigs for human transplants...from thinking back to my ag uni days (long time ago), pig organs (and so I'm guessing hormones) are not that far removed from humans...at one stage there was investigation of using pig organs (eg hearts/lungs) for transplant into humans due to the low number of organ donors. Of course we are talking about pigs bred specifically for the purpose under very specialised conditions etc. Not sure it ever went far due to the ethical considerations. So a lot of people (maybe more than we thought ) owe their lives to little piggies! ...oh and I think that there is a horse hormone used for some treatment of some other human illness...pregnant mare syrum I think it is called...and we use a by-product from milk in some toothpastes to strenghten teeth...as for the disease risk, animal by-products prob would have to face stronger disease testing and are specifically harvested under very controled conditions than say, your average backyard vegie patch where mice/snails/birds etc etc (oh add more to the list if you use animal manure to fertilise) have been...

    Of course this is all from memory so take with the grain of salt it prob needs

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    http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcmed.nsf/pages/csccervi/$File/csccervi.pdf
    Ingredients:
    Pessary (vaginal insert)
    The active ingredient in CERVIDIL® is dinoprostone.
    The active ingredient is within a plastic (polyurethane) sustained release insert which contains:
    hexanetriol/macrogol 8000/isocyanate cross-linked hydrogel copolymer.
    The insert is held within a pouch in continuity with a withdrawal tape.
    Pouch and tape are made of knitted polyester yarn.

    I can't find a single reference for where the prostaglandin E2 is made from - and that includes pigs. I would be reticent to believe an inflamatory webpage like the one your info is from. Obviously, there is prostaglandin E2 in semen of pigs - but it's also in donkeys, rats, dogs, humans, rainbow trout, etc... I think you get my point.

    The only reference for pig (boar, actually) semen & prostaglandin E2 I found was in a paper on improving artificial insemination of pigs.

    In terms of disease risk - I'd rather pig semen than human semen.