thread: For those who didn't tear - what position did you birth in?

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  1. #1
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    Aug 2006
    Our house, in the middle of our street
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    I gave birth laying on my back, and i didn't tear with all 3 girls.

    good luck

  2. #2
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    Aug 2006
    3,562

    I was on my back both times and didn't tear.

  3. #3
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    Apr 2009
    in the garden
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    With DD1 I was made to lie on back to slow delivery, and I grazed, needed a few stitches, she was 8lb12.

    DS1 I was on all fours leaning into a beanbag, he was 9lb13, 5 min 2nd stage and no stitches. I put it down to him being a 2nd baby?... I just figured it was better after the first one?

    TBH I don't really remember whether I slowed pushing at the crowning stage or what I did at all for that matter, I just remember his shoulders got a bit stuck... now I wish I could remember!

  4. #4
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    Dec 2005
    5,951

    I was on my back both times and didn't tear.
    Yep, me too. Both times I was on my back.

  5. #5
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    Jul 2006
    Berwick, Melbourne
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    I was squatting...legs spread as wide as possible...i just went with the contractions...I was waiting to be told to not push when DD was crowing but I wasn't so i just went with what my body was saying...no tears. Fingers crossed I can do it again like that in 5 weeks give or take!

  6. #6
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    Nov 2006
    Warburton
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    All three times I was on my knees. The first and third time I did not tear. Little tear with the second birth, due to it being pretty fast and I forgot to 'back pedal' (she was born in a hurry in a shopping mall.)

    Some women just have lovely stretchy vaginas. All vaginas are designed to stretch, are tough, strong, stretchy and tensile, and heal beautifully from minor tears. Yay, the vagina!

    Here's my thoughts on supporting optimal wellbeing for the birthing vagina and the lovely perineum:

    * Grab a copy of My Pelvic Flaw and learn all about really good pelvic floor exercises.

    * Consider perineal massage and gentle vaginal exploration. I don't believe you need to stretch or condition your tissues. They're naturally designed to stretch! But, gentle massage and exploration might be good for a mumma to get in touch with her body and *discover* just how awesome, strong and stretchy it is. That was my experience, anyway.

    * Use a birth pool & give birth in water! The gold star standard for perineal care.

    * Listen to your body and ban 'Directed Pushing'.

    * Gravity, uterine contractions, the foetal ejection reflex, and volitional pushing are 4 different forces that are involved in the expulsion of the baby. You rarely need all 4 forces happening at once! In an uncoached, un-coerced birth, the FER is really strong. When the mother just goes with it, she rarely needs to push and strain.

    * Wait until the urge to push is absolutely overwhelming, Like, don't start pushing because you've been *told* you're fully. Don't start pushing as soon as you first start feeling pushy. Welcome and celebrate when you first start feeling that unmistakeable pushy feeling. But if you can, keep breathing through the pushiness until it's just so overwhelming that you can't hold off any longer. Blow out forcefully if you have to. I watched one first timer mama do this in a strong rhythm - puff-puff BLOW! Puff-puff-BLOW! The rhythm really helped her stay in control and resist that urge. Then - just go with it! Mischief can be caused by *telling* a woman to 'push', or if you're an impatient mama and you give into that litle demon whispering in your ear that if you push heaps now you can get this over. Tell that imp to shut up and go away. Heaving and shoving and pushing too hard too soon could be counterproductive and set you back. Keep breathing ... be patient ... trust your body ... kinda boycott the pushing thing for a while ... eventually it will be so full on, it will be undeniably the real thing. Wait till you're "11 cm dilated" before starting to push.

    * Get gravity on your side and make sure you have the freedom, and the motivation, to follow what your body is compelling you to do. Some women really do like to push on their backs or on their sides. But make sure you're not doing that because of the subconscious influence of The Bed, the staff, or the media!

    * Check out this study that associated the kneeling position with less perineal damage. Worth taking into consideration.

    * Consider using only one or two of the 4 forces. Such as, gravity and the FER, but not pushing. Or, pushing gently between contractions rather than during contractions. That's when you're trying to ease bub's head out really gently. (I nailed this with birth #3). Or, eliminate the gravity factor if it's coming too fast, by kneeling into a knee-chest possie, or lying down in the birth pool or on your side, for example. You may not need to use all the 4 forces all at once, especially if the birth is progressing well and the baby's head is advancing. Some women find kneeling, then dropping their head down into a knee chest, helpful to slow down a fast second stage to a manageable sped.

    * When you can feel that burning ring of fire, you're as good as done. That burning is your signal to BACK-PEDAL. In most cases, strenuous pushing efforts are no longer needed. It's time to stop pushing, and just b-r-e-a-t-h-e your baby out. Don't be tempted to just rocket that wee bub across the room. It's better to gently ease your bub out over the length of a couple of contractions than give into the urge to 'just get it out' (through gritted teeth)!

    * Watch the shoulders! Congrats, you just birthed the head - awesome! Now, gently does it with the shoulders. Unless the shoulders are sticky and there are concerns about possible dytocia, there's NO RUSH! Sometimes large heads are born with no tear, then little shoulders cause a rip because of too much rush.

    *Reach down and feel inside your vagina, and touch your baby's head. You can feel just how close your baby is. As the head starts to emerge, a little more each contraction, reach down and feel whenever you want to, if it helps you connect with how your body is stretching & how you're progressing. This tactile approach helps some women know 'where they're at'. Other women would rather shut their eyes and do it all by feel. But hey, your fingers belong there more than anyone else's fingers.

    * Watch that second birth! If you had a long arduous first time labour, you might not realise how much quicker your next birth could be - especially if bub #2 comes along within about 3 yrs of the first.
    Last edited by Julie Doula; May 23rd, 2009 at 08:00 PM.

  7. #7
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    Jul 2008
    summer street
    2,708

    Wow, there have been some great posts...

    I was on my knees, leaning into DH who was sitting.

    My midwife massaged and stretched the opening when I was in 2nd stage, and held the head back a little bit. I was a bit tentative to begin with when pushing, but then really started to get the hang of it, and I think I could have done some damage if my midwife hadn't helped me so much.

    Water is supposed to be amazing, but bare in mind, the midwives can't see what's happening so well - so if you want that guidance on when to pant etc, I would go landwise.

    Good luck with it. Tearing was my biggest fear in labour, but I only grazed (because darling DD had her hands up in her mouth when she was born!!)

  8. #8
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    Feb 2007
    on the move.....
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    I was on my back.

  9. #9
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    Jan 2006
    Brisbane south side
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    Hey everyone!

    I just wanted to say that I gave birth on May 31 to my little girl leaning on a bean bag over the bed (on my knees/all fours) and I DID NOT TEAR!!! Thank you so much for everyone's input. It helped me make a decision how I wanted to give birth! I don't know if it was the position, me 'back pedalling' once the head crowned...I did it slowly and when my body was ready), I had a fantastic midwife, and I used an epi-no. So..maybe all those things combined. I had a GREAT birth!! (we even got to film it!) The contractions were VERY intense (painful!!) but I somehow managed to do it without drugs (oh man...this labour was way more painful than my first with my son). I couldn't have done it without leaning on my dp (I was standing up the last half hour or so before I got on the bed, before that I was on a birthing ball). The pushing out part is the best though! She was 8lb 4oz, 52.5cm long, 36cm head circumference.
    Last edited by CathyS; June 18th, 2009 at 12:56 PM.

  10. #10
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    Nov 2006
    Warburton
    537

    Awesome news, Cathy! Congratulations. Sounds like it was a really satisfying birth for you. Blessings for your babymoon!

  11. #11
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    Apr 2009
    in the garden
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    Awesome! Congratulations Cathy on the birth of your little girl.

    How fantastic that you got to enjoy it!

  12. #12
    Registered User

    May 2008
    melbourne
    23

    I only teared slightly but didn't need stiches....I was on all fours on the bed. I think that's the best way for a posterior labour (which I had) and in general. Squatting, and anything where gravity assists will lessen the tear. And actually feeling it of course! No drugs or painkillers will assure that you at least feel the push and what you are doing so you are less likely to tear. And a great ob/midwife that can guide your pushing!!!

  13. #13
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    My plan was on all fours BUT my labour was so fast (DD born 39mins after arriving at hospital) as the midwife was in the middle of asking me would i like to get on all fours as in my plan that she knew of, i was already climbing up on the bed to be on my back, LOL ... Needless to say she was born not even 10mins after that. I teared very little (no need for stitches) but had some terrible grazing. I too had no drugs, gas, etc ... no time for it even " IF " i wanted it as i was going that fast !!!

  14. #14
    BellyBelly Member

    Mar 2006
    Getting to know Brisbane all over again
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    I gave birth on all fours also did some perinum massagein the weeks leading up to the birth to help with the scar tissue from my episiotomy with DS - hehe my first question after she was born was - did I tear because for me - recovery from the epi was THE WORST but of the afterbirth stage.

  15. #15
    Registered User

    Jan 2009
    Thorpdale, Vic
    54

    just grazes

    DS on my back, DD standing/squatting, (hubby sitting on edge of bed with his legs apart, me astride them with my arms round his neck)