i do agree males see birth completely different, my husband's first birth was my second one and he sat there in an armchair 2 metres away doing puzzles with the curtain over his head so he could get light from the window (i had the lights off) he wouldnt massage my back or hold my hand. i was very annoyed to say the least. he told me it was boring being in the room. i could have choked him. i was so scared b/c i was 4 weeks early and babies heartrate kept dropping. all he did was sit there. i told him when i hwas pregnant tameeka if he didnt help me he wouldnt be in the room. i had my mother and my older sister in as well thankfully. tameekas birth was great (i will post the birth story after this)

i have also been on the other end of a birth, my friend had her baby 11 weeks after i had tameeka, and i can tell you i felt all the pain she was going through b/c i had just been there again. i felt like i couldnt do anything for her and i felt useless but i would still rather be there feeling useless then going through the labour lmao