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  1. #1
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    Just to clear something up, when I said "being shoved in ones face" I meant articles and opinions from people as a whole, not in particular from THIS site.

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    I know what you mean. See I look at things differently.... when I saw that article, I thought, 'Oh wow, that's interesting! They think it could be something as simple as pro-biotics....' and thought that the intelligent women on BB would like to hear about it too... I also thought, wow, I wonder how they will go about changing things and potentially reducing obesity with these findings....

    But I guess not everyone has the same interest level and headspace that I am at, I find it all interesting I guess I think that other people will be interested too but emotions can get in the way of interest sometimes! Wouldn't it be nice if you never felt guilt again about it!
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    PLEASE! Can we not do this again. Can we just let this be another piece of information that you can either take or leave. We all know where this is going to head, and it doesn't need to.

    I see these arguments all the time and it makes me so sad, because when you get down to it most often its misunderstandings and miscommunication. Very few people think that they are better than someone else because they did things right, whatever they are, and if they do well I hope someone bumps into the pedestal they've put themselves on and knocks some reality into them.

    I'm posting this as a member, not as a moderator, as a mother, and as a friend and as someone who has been on BOTH sides.

    If you can't read these articles without it evoking some sort of negative emotion please don't read them, there are a few posts/articles etc that have done the same from me and I just put them on ignore so they don't tempt me. Its just not worth it, no one wants anyone to feel that way, and we don't have to! Its torture.

    I say this with well intentions and no blame on any party I just think we really need to move past this debate because its just going to keep going around and around and around in circles.

    Peace out.

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    Sorry mum...

    *Slaps hand*

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    Don't make me come over there :P

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    Interesting article,maybe they can improve formula now to include everything that is needed,I guess that with every study they find extra benifits in breastmilk and that can help formula companies improve the formula.

    I ff DD1 because i couldnt breastfeed,as much as i wanted to breast feed i didnt succeed and i ff but i dont feel guilty at all because i did what i could and i know i tried by best at the time.

    Thankfully i succeded in brestfeeding DD2 because i had more support and knowledge and it was fantastic.

    The important thing is we have the right intentions for our children

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    I completely agree with rurummy... when i read the article I thought to myself: "great! now they know they can improve the formula by adding pro-biotics perhaps".

    I've had to use formula for brief periods and I'm happy to read any info that is found about it. Thanks for posting the article Kelly.

  8. #8
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    Mar 2005
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    interesting article kelly. You are very right about guilt, we can only make ourselves feel guilty, but guilt is a very hard emotion to let go of. I get guilt pangs about ff, but only little ones cause i know ff is best for my family and myself. I am very pro bf though and think that any research opn the benefits on bf is great to see.

    bath - i didn't even think of looking at it that way, it would be great if this research helps formula to improve

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    I have worked in Clinical Trials and one interesting thing is that most Clinical Trials are often skewed to prove the theory they are researching, now when I say skewed they can be quite biased.

    Please don't take this response as being pro or con FF as i have done both with my 2.

    BUT, just keep in mind, trying to prove a link in a Clinical Trial setting is often easier that trying to disprove it.

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    dont some formula's have pro - biotics in it anyway.

    Mia's reflux has NOTHING to do with the formula, she had it when she was BF too.

    I understand completley that "breat IS best" for bubs. Im just getting sick of people who formula feed their bubs get frowned down upon. If its not one thing its another.

    Also.. whey dominant formula would be better yes? seeming it is closer to BM and easier to digest so nicer on guts.

    Im going to be doing more research on this subject...

  11. #11
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    Feb 2006
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    holly if you read what kelly said here

    I also often wonder about the role of antibiotics in labour which play havoc with babies gut too, not so much with the link to obesity but in general. Since FF babies don't get pro-biotics from mum (I know some formulas have added one strain of probiotics, but there are many strains)... all interesting how each little thing we interfere with throws out so much
    some do have probiotics, im not saying that formula caused reflux, just stating that perhaps to look into giving DD some, whether she was FF or BF. im not having a go at you for using formula, just making a suggestion. you totally dismissed the article before, but honestly you may be one to benefit!
    i also suggested DD maybe try some as perhaps you had AB's due to your c/s. this is not a FF v's BF debate, its a discussion on helping those with possible gut problems

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    Im just getting sick of people who formula feed their bubs get frowned down upon. If its not one thing its another.

    And I have to admit Hollye that I'm getting sick of people assuming that if you post an article about BFing, that it's an attack on FFing mothers. It is what it is: informing parents of relevant studies that affect their children.

    I have BFed and FFed too. Personally I think people need to stop being so defensive.

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