I'm useless at hand expressing too and I had this about a week ago .. when I'm *that* full just bending over forward in the shower is enough to trigger let down and the trying to hand express works way better. Standing up it is almost impossible. Worth a try, anyway.

I haven't been getting anywhere near as engorged the last few days thankfully. I had issues that day because we both got sick and bubs was doing a lot of sleeping and missed a feed.