I am a purist, s i wouldn't call a c-section natural, but i wouldn't call what i had "natural" either because i used entonox and had sintocinon for the 3rd stage.

I do think it is amazing the lengths people go to to avoid saying the word "vagina" and figure that's what most people mean when they begin bandying "natural" "normal" "traditional" and "conventional" about. I try to answer by saying "vagina" as many times as possible in one sentence.

I am a nosy birth parker but i tend to ask "how was the birth?" because that gives the private mum a chance to say "fine" or "ok" or whatever without revealing any details if she doesn't want to and those who actually want to talk a chance to do so. I love to hear about births, all kinds of births, and would love to read your birth story too Dee - i can remember reading the announcement and thinking of you up in that hoissie with the whole mountain behind you on fire, labouring to get your baby out while the rest of nature ran for it. Such an exciting story to tell bubs too. You're certainly one of the many heroine's of the board hun.

Bx