i had an emergency c-section, bandl's ring was discovered immediately and then it was a race against time - in which time forceps were tried (failed), vantuse was tried (failed) and then much more robust methods were used to get bilby out by one limb (not breathing, immed to resus table). I was an invalid for months afterwards (could not stand up long enough to butter some bread), couldn't drive for six months. Took a year until i was strong enough to bathe bilby myself.