lol thanks Ali
OUr other car is a 4wd so wouldnt know any different.
I assumed they loosed valur quickly seeing they are $29k new and $14k a year later lol but we just want a car we can drive to death - not looking for resale.

I mean our car that needs to be replaced is a 1991 pulsar i have driven to death lol... the muffer now has a hole in it so it sounds like a v8 lol!!!