Hi ,thanks for that advice Christy, I?m looking into putting him into day care a couple of days,just wondering if this might help having lots of things to do and new friends to make.I know his behavior has got worse since having our baby,but he has always been a challenging child.You love your children but you wonder what happens when there like this,it gets you down,its a strain on your relationship with DH and the other kids have to put up with listening to the same crap day in, day out, ykwim.