Cai, I posted then deleted because i hadn't read your post. I can understand you thinking about closing this thread because it's becoming more of a fight than an informed debate.
If it has gotten out of hand it really is because pro circers are constantly having to defend their position. If it's not said openly, it's inferred that we as parents have no objection to inflicting pain on our babies and I find that to be highly insulting.






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