Hee Hee, Haydies! Its weird when you read your own story in someone else's post isn't it? And somewhat comforting.

Now... we just need the the solution...??.!!

Melody7, Thanks for the suggestion of the pantly pull-off, I hadn't heard of it before and have been looking it up and will give it a go. It does sound much nicer than letting her cry... (Its not really what you had in mind by starting this thread, giving all the advice rather than getting it!)

Haydies, It is a terrible hour isn't it? That sob and cry just goes right through you, straight to the heart. Still, I must admit if you can just get one good night sleep, everything feels much more manageable, and in a way, it may be worth doing anything to get that sleep... Now we feel a little more under control, I feel more able to approach this problem with a clear head.

Melody7, what about calling a sleep school for advice? Or try putting your son on your DH's side of the bed after a feed. I had a friend that this worked for as her son was not distracted by her presence and slept much better. With all of these methods, I think it still means a few nights of distress as we attempt to change their expectations and patterns.