Thanks Sarajane - yep I hear you and the tips in that thread are fantastic. Its really frustrating isnt it - Im just going to assume that its a phase that she will grow out of, so Im doing whatever I need to do to get her to settle and to not drive myself insane. Im trying to settle by patting and just sitting with her and if she really cries (not a fake Im tired grizzle) then I will put her on the boob to get her to sleep. Somebody mentioned consistency and I find this the hardest as she changes how she responds to comforting every time so I change what I do Fingers crossed it passes quickly and we get our self settling 8 hour nights back soon!