thread: I just can't do this anymore

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  1. #1
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    Nov 2008
    Perth, WA
    2,315

    DS is an awesome sleeper. I think he was always going to be a pretty good sleeper, but I'd like to take a little credit for making a good sleeper into an awesome one! I know you've probably heard it before, but I found consistency is the key. You really need to stick with, and believe in, whatever method you choose. We decided DS wasn't going to co-sleep, and he never has (just our choice, no judgement for anyone else). The very few nights we've been up with him, we've spent on the lounge, or on the floor of his room. We decided we weren't going to do CC, though we also decided not to rush straight in and pick him up the moment he cries. From about 7-8 months, we decided we weren't going to pick him up every time we went in (my back just couldn't handle it). We'd give him a minute or so to see if he self-settled, and if he still needed us, we'd go in. We also got to know his cries/sounds and wouldn't go in for grizzling (I find DS needs to make a bit of a grizzle type sound before he goes to sleep, a kind of moan, and he still does quite often now. It's part of his settling routine). We'd cuddle him if he was really upset, or otherwise just pat him until he settled. Then we'd pat the mattress, the whole time saying 'shhhh' or something else repetitive and soothing. Gradually the patting would get slower, until it was no patting, just the 'shhhhh's. We started patting to sleep, then gradually left just before he was asleep, then a little earlier each time. It took a good few weeks, and we'd sometimes have to go back and resettle. Because he was going to sleep on his own, it meant he could go BACK to sleep on his own if he woke up in the night. I remember getting up in the night to go to him because he'd cried out, only to get to his room and he'd be fast asleep again! It's only been in the last couple of months that I've been able to stop myself getting up 'just to check' every time he makes a peep. Nowadays, he'll tell me when he's ready for bed, and points to the door, telling us to go after we've put him in his cot!
    I'm not sure any of this advice will help - it's got to be something you're willing to invest in and be consistent with. The moment you give in and say 'oh it's easier if I just pick him up/put him in bed with me/feed to sleep etc', then you start again. And if it IS easier for you to do those things, then do them. For me, it wasn't easier, because I knew I'd be doing them multiple times a night, night after night, day after day and I didn't want that. I also had a friend whose 8 yo and 4 yo were still getting in bed with them after midnight most nights, and would wake up several times a night before midnight and the thought of that petrified me! Oh, and I'm a teacher, so the whole self-discipline thing (me being self-disciplined, not DS) isn't that hard. I know the motto 'Certainty, not severity' too so I just knew that DS needed to be certain the same thing would happen time after time after time. The last thing is that DH was always very supportive and consistent with what we did too and was always more than willing to share the load. That makes a huge difference.
    I really feel for you. Sleep deprivation is HARD and x3 must be an absolute nightmare for you. I hope you find something that works for you soon. Look after yourself because without you, your LO's would be lost. Having you healthy and happy is what is best for them.

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Apr 2010
    422

    We have tried every gentle method under the sun. We did the slowly withdrawing from our eldest son's room. We would always get to the door and as soon as we went to take the night to step out of it, hyperventilating screams. We tried this for 6 months, over and over and over again. Always get to the door, the howls would begin. Consistency has never been our problem, my children just have a stubborness that goes far beyond mine. They have a good routine and all 3 children go to bed perfectly fine. It's about 2 hours after bed time that the fun begins. They wake through the night constantly and are so hard to settle each wake up. My 4yo now sleeps fairly well these days, it isn't perfect but its ok and it took us 4 years to get there. And trust me I have spent months sleeping on bedroom floors or in the kids beds trying to resettle them there, never made any difference. If I can manage to resettle them in their own bed they will wake within half an hour of being settled, again and again and again. Doesn't matter how many times, nights, months, we re-settle them in their own bed they will wake 50 times during the night, it never gets any less. My 2yo won't re-settle in his bed at all. You try lying in his bed with him and 4hrs later guaranteed he will still be awake. He won't go to sleep because he knows as soon as he does I will go back to my own bed. And he did this long before we even brought him into our bed. So we have done the same thing over and over for months and never seen any different. They always ended up in our bed after months of trying out of necessity. I have been pregnant twice since my first and I suffer from HG when pregnant, I also had glandular fever with my 2nd pregnancy so sometimes the thought of sleeping on the floor of my kids room another night, pregnant, vomiting and exhausted was too much to bear and they won. And now my daughter won't settle at all without my nipple in her mouth and her night wakings are increasing. And my kids don't wake up grizzling, I would leave them if they were. They wake up and within 30 seconds they are hyperventilating. No joke. They are the most stubbornest creatures on the planet.

  3. #3
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    Feb 2006
    NSW Central Coast
    5,301

    Maybe it's time to go to a sleep school and get some help from professionals? Your problems sound pretty horrendous

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Oct 2009
    SW Sydney
    409

    my heart goes out for you- you are doing an amazing job just surviving with so little sleep- be proud of yourself!
    You've recognised its time to make a change and there is so much help out there, in no time I'm sure you'll be able to put things in place to improve the situation!

    I have just finished reading Elizabeth Pantley's No cry sleep solution- and I tell you it was written exactly for your situation!!! If you can get it I would definitely recommend it!
    I would also recommend sleep school, they dont make you do proper controlled crying but possibly a little more crying than you'd be happy with? but for so many people it is the turnaround point!